Has There Ever Been a Year Setup Any Better for Us?

buffaloefalcon · Post by **buffaloefalcon** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 6:55 pm

Obnoxcious 1: Annoyance is an unpleasant mental state that is characterized by such effects as irritation and distraction from one's conscious thinking. It can lead to emotions such as frustration and anger.

Hmmm, sounds like you just don't like what one has said and that it distracts from ones cloud of illusion (this team is great).

Obnoxcious 2: objectionable: causing disapproval or protest; "a vulgar and objectionable person"

Free speech anyone? Oh, did I mention; no vulgarities in poorlycoachedbgsus' posts. I'm smellin' bias. Startin' to stink in here.

NWLB · Post by **NWLB** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 9:53 pm

Rightupinthere wrote:How do you screw that up.

Hmmmmmm.

I'm trying to think. Give me a second.

Losing games to teams they should have beaten.

Still thinking.

Nope. I give up. Nothing is coming to mind.

You know, and I mean this very seriously, what is hard about this is the fact that he is a nice guy. I have met him, a long time ago, made a point of not getting to know him personally as is my policy on all head coaches. But he's a nice family guy. Even looking at his picture, I feel at times as if I'm beating on a smurf. But, he want the gig, and exactly why I stopped getting to know these guys was the fact that it was even worse with Blackney, Buddy, and even Dakich.

Rightupinthere · Post by **Rightupinthere** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 10:04 pm

NWLB wrote: You know, and I mean this very seriously, what is hard about this is the fact that he is a nice guy. I have met him, a long time ago, made a point of not getting to know him personally as is my policy on all head coaches. But he's a nice family guy.

I will NEVER slam the man. Gregg along with Dan Dakich and Buddy and Blackney are all gents with whom I can honestly say I don't hold a personal grudge.

This has zero to do with their personalities but the results of their work. I trust 87 when he said he would love GB to coach Noah. That speaks volumes of the man.

However, I can say that he has not made the best decisions as a head coach, has been poorly prepared for quite a few games, and that he doesn't seem to learn from his own coaching mistakes. In that, I critique the coach and not the man. To me, they are separate. In my world, there is no twain between work and home, if you will.

Metz · Post by **Metz** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 10:15 pm

NWLB wrote: You know, and I mean this very seriously, what is hard about this is the fact that he is a nice guy. I have met him, a long time ago, made a point of not getting to know him personally as is my policy on all head coaches. But he's a nice family guy.

That's one thing all of our coaches have in common now and over the last few years. They are GREAT people around the team and away from the team as well. In my time as an undergrad, all of our coaches helped me a ton whether it was getting to a game, courtesy to do my job as a photographer when I was with the BG News, or just helping me with anything else sport related I needed.

I don't know many other programs in the nation where coaches are as helpful as all of ours always have been to myself and others I know as well.

Jacobs4Heisman · Post by **Jacobs4Heisman** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 10:18 pm

It has crossed my mind before that Gregg Brandon might just be too nice a guy to be a quality head coach.

The disciplinary problems this year are not exactly dissuading me from those thoughts.

falcon101 · Post by **falcon101** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 12:15 am

i, for one, will stand up and support gregg brandon. He is a quality guy and a quality coach. He has surrounded himself with other great coaches who get the job done too. They have posted big wins (purdue and pittsburgh for example) and many many MAC wins. He has kept the BG tradition at the highest. The coaching staff prepares tirelessly for every game and install gameplans that give the players a chance to win every week. I dont think there is a player in there who wouldnt stand up for any member of the coaching stuff. They are hard recruiters who go after the very best talent and shape them into good young men once they get to BG. There is only so much the coaches can do to control the lives of their players outside of football and by installing the no tolerance policy holds the players accountable now no matter what. Coach Brandon and the rest of the coaches are doing good things, so are the players, they just need to learn how to win. Period. Its not something that just comes naturally. Its taught and passed down. But the season is not lost......yet.....things will come around...have faith!...sitting around and complaining about it wont help...come together as a coaching staff, team, fan base, and university and great things will happen...mark those words....everyone must believe and bleed orange and brown

bgsufn · Post by **bgsufn** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 8:00 am

falcon101 wrote:i, for one, will stand up and support gregg brandon. He is a quality guy and a quality coach. He has surrounded himself with other great coaches who get the job done too. They have posted big wins (purdue and pittsburgh for example) and many many MAC wins. He has kept the BG tradition at the highest. The coaching staff prepares tirelessly for every game and install gameplans that give the players a chance to win every week. I dont think there is a player in there who wouldnt stand up for any member of the coaching stuff. They are hard recruiters who go after the very best talent and shape them into good young men once they get to BG. There is only so much the coaches can do to control the lives of their players outside of football and by installing the no tolerance policy holds the players accountable now no matter what. Coach Brandon and the rest of the coaches are doing good things, so are the players, they just need to learn how to win. Period. Its not something that just comes naturally. Its taught and passed down. But the season is not lost......yet.....things will come around...have faith!...sitting around and complaining about it wont help...come together as a coaching staff, team, fan base, and university and great things will happen...mark those words....everyone must believe and bleed orange and brown

Welcome to the board, Mrs. Brandon!

NWLB · Post by **NWLB** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 9:11 am

bgsufn wrote:Welcome to the board, Mrs. Brandon!

No kidding. That couldn't have been more Pollyanna-esque if it had been scripted by the SID and Athletic marketing.

That single post was like a consolidated listing of all the arguments I heard during Blackney's final three or four years. They didn't wash then or now. But as I like to say, sometimes you have to take a more extreme stance when trying to move a debate in a given direction.

Pete Segaard · Post by **Pete Segaard** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 10:33 am

poorlycoachedbgsu wrote:
BGSU33 wrote:
Rollo83 wrote:We have a veteran team on both sides of the ball with playmakers at a lot of positions D & O. We catch the East Division in a down year where nobody's worth a damn. We avoid the three toughest teams in the West...(Ball State, Central & Western)...on the schedule. We get our nemesis...Miami...at home when their having a terrible year. They start a freshman QB in his first start and a back-up RB.

How do you screw that up?

why aren't you being attacked by the regulars here for this harsh post? just wondering. i agree 100 percent with you by the way.

With the team we had returning, coupled with the schedule we had to face, I felt in the preseason that we couldn't have asked for a better setup. I don't think our own coaching staff could gave put together a better schedule if they could have hand picked it themselves. Our crossover games avoided CMU, WMU & BSU, we hosted teams like Miami who always gives us trouble and EMU who we always beat. What more could we have asked for? Well, seven games into the season, I still feel that way, except we have just wasted away opportunity after opportunity and we have all but thrown this season away. I don't know what is more painful, having a good season come unglued at the end, or shooting yourself in the foot out of the gates? Either way, we always seem to finding ways of doing one or the other annually.

He did not call anyone out in his post

1987alum · Post by **1987alum** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 1:05 pm

NWLB wrote:You know, and I mean this very seriously, what is hard about this is the fact that he is a nice guy. I have met him, a long time ago, made a point of not getting to know him personally as is my policy on all head coaches. But he's a nice family guy. Even looking at his picture, I feel at times as if I'm beating on a smurf. But, he want the gig, and exactly why I stopped getting to know these guys was the fact that it was even worse with Blackney, Buddy, and even Dakich.

I've said it before - Brandon is the type of man I'd want my kid to play for. This year has been a big disappointment, to say the least, but Brandon is a good man.

daspollak · Post by **daspollak** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 1:40 pm

I am going to take a different tact into this arguement. I will say we overachieved last season, and are playing to about our ability right now. If we look at our team who do we have that we can say is a legit playmaker? No one, in the recent past we had Harris and Omar, but now no one comes close to these guy's talent level. Central has Leflour, Ball St. has Nate Davis, no one in the east has anyone near these caliber of players.

Our team has decent MAC players but no one who has truely become a person to lean on in hard times. Just look at this team when they get down, it snowballs. Last year I think we did a tremendous job responding to adversity, but we were also let by a great senior class (Who had a star player, granted he was a center). I will blame the coach for playcalling and some of the preperation, but I will not blame him for lack of player leadership. One of these players need to stand up and take this team to the next level. Until then we will be a mediocre team.

Rightupinthere · Post by **Rightupinthere** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 2:58 pm

bgsufn wrote: Welcome to the board, Mrs. Brandon!

Don't laugh.

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