GB getting a contract extension

NWLB · Post by **NWLB** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 11:15 am

WAR FALCON! Nope, just doesn't quite work.

WAR FREDDIE! OK, humorous, I can dig it.

WAR FREDIA! Hmmm, sounds like some kind of ancient wagon.

Well Ohio has Solich, maybe we can find some aged old coach to ramp things up. Then the MAC can go from the cradle to the nursing home of coaches.

Jacobs4Heisman · Post by **Jacobs4Heisman** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 11:53 am

daspollak wrote:There is no way Bowden will work for the money we would offer a head coach. The guy who I would like to see run our team is Tulsa's offensive coordinator. He would fit into a philosophy we had with Urban and GB. Plus it would be fun to see what trick he would pull out next.

Yeah, like throwing deep balls up by 50 in the fourth quarter. That would be awesome.

NWLB · Post by **NWLB** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 12:08 pm

Jacobs4Heisman wrote:
daspollak wrote:There is no way Bowden will work for the money we would offer a head coach. The guy who I would like to see run our team is Tulsa's offensive coordinator. He would fit into a philosophy we had with Urban and GB. Plus it would be fun to see what trick he would pull out next.
Yeah, like throwing deep balls up by 50 in the fourth quarter. That would be awesome.

You like what we have better? There was a time, not so long ago when I saw more than 50 points more than once a season. Those days might be gone in part, but they were more fun than this past four years.

TG1996 · Post by **TG1996** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 12:12 pm

Jacobs4Heisman wrote:
daspollak wrote:There is no way Bowden will work for the money we would offer a head coach. The guy who I would like to see run our team is Tulsa's offensive coordinator. He would fit into a philosophy we had with Urban and GB. Plus it would be fun to see what trick he would pull out next.
Yeah, like throwing deep balls up by 50 in the fourth quarter. That would be awesome.

I have no doubt in my mind if a coach sent a kid in to Turkey Jones the Tulsa QB when they pull that, you'd have no fewer than 30 schools chipping in to pay the fine. Hell, the Rice band would probably pay half.

Better yet, run a pass play designed to seek out Todd Graham and JoePa him.

Watching that game last night, part of me wanted to see Tulsa lose, but if they were going to win, I wanted to see some of that same BS just so Graham could show his ass on national TV. I got it. Seriously, the QB throwback going downfield up 20+ with 4 minutes left? The direct snap to the FG kicker up 30? Maybe the FG kicker was just a senior going for some "record". Yeah, that explains it.

It took a few weeks for me to convince myself it wasn't just sour grapes, but no... that is a no-class program.

daspollak · Post by **daspollak** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 1:00 pm

Jacobs4Heisman wrote:
daspollak wrote:There is no way Bowden will work for the money we would offer a head coach. The guy who I would like to see run our team is Tulsa's offensive coordinator. He would fit into a philosophy we had with Urban and GB. Plus it would be fun to see what trick he would pull out next.
Yeah, like throwing deep balls up by 50 in the fourth quarter. That would be awesome.

I would rather being throwing deep balls up by 50 than the role we were in in that game. I know it sucks getting pounded like that, but this is college football. If you don't want them to score, do something about it instead of complaining. This thread is about GB contract extension and potential replacements. I just threw a name out there that might be a good fit.

Jacobs4Heisman · Post by **Jacobs4Heisman** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 1:56 pm

daspollak wrote:I just threw a name out there that might be a good fit.

And I just countered by saying I'd rather put my arm through a wood-chipper than having anybody currently associated with Tulsa's program become associated with ours.

Winning with class is important to me.

1987alum · Post by **1987alum** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 2:03 pm

Jacobs4Heisman wrote:
daspollak wrote:I just threw a name out there that might be a good fit.
And I just countered by saying I'd rather put my arm through a wood-chipper than having anybody currently associated with Tulsa's program become associated with ours.

Winning with class is important to me.

Yeah, I'd say anyone associated with Graham is automatically not a good fit.

HoustonFalcon · Post by **HoustonFalcon** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 2:13 pm

I have a different mindset here. I watched the game last night, and I didn't see a whole lot wrong with what Tulsa did. They had to have a statement game last night, because they are getting the least amount of respect among the undefeated non big school teams. They had a shitty first half, and needed that second half. On the plays you mention, the pass was made after Tulsa ran the ball twice right up the middle, making it easy to stop. Did you just want them to kneel and give the ball back to UCF? On the kicker punting, they faked the field goal so UCF wouldn't have a chance to run it back. They did something like that in the first half with their QB. Were they just supposed to stop playing? Were they playing with YMCA rules? If you look at some of their other games, they have gotten up big, and then only scored a touchdown or two in the second half. Give me a break. BUT, what I did love from Coach Graham last night was his fire at halftime. You could tell he was pissed about the way his team played, and he didn't let them go the locker room right away. He kept them out there huddled up, and obviously said something right. I didn't see anything wrong with what they did last night.

TG1996 · Post by **TG1996** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 2:19 pm

It's not *just* last night. They have a history of first stringers throwing the ball late in undecided games, which is just classless. Of course they pulled stuff out in the first half and their coach was fired up. It was a close game! But the game is all but decided when you're up 30 with 4 minutes left. The FG/punt thing is just something silly and doesn't really compare with your starting QB throwing a bomb on a double pass, but really, if you're THAT worried about UCF running it back, tell your punter to kick it through the end zone or OB. They were on the 40, it shouldn't be all that hard to do.

With that coaching staff, though, I was surprised to see the kicker punt the ball and not try to throw it or run for a first down.

OptionQB · Post by **OptionQB** » Fri Oct 31, 2008 10:11 am

The funny thing that few realize is that Tulsa is listed in all of the preseason pubs as having CO-offensive coordinators. Gus Malzahn is the person responsible for delivering then #1 recruit Mitch Mustain to Arkansas and his HS receiver buddy Damion Williams. Houston Nutt was fired/left. Malzahn got the Tulsa job and Williams and Mustain are now at USC. Williams plays a much larger role on team currently. Just ask the Buckeyes.

daspollak · Post by **daspollak** » Fri Oct 31, 2008 1:23 pm

I was bitter about being blown out in GMAC Bowl, but now Im not. It is a bowl game, and if our team wanted a different outcome they should have played better. I do not think a team should pull their first stringers or let up in a bowl game. It maybe some players last chance to play competitive football, or a player maybe trying to break a record. It sucks that it got ran up on us, but that is life. Next time play better.

As for this year Tulsa is playing for a chance to go to a BCS bowl game. It is a huge deal to any university to be able to go. Unfortunately for them they need to convince voters that they should send them. If that means they have to run up the score to earn style points, that is just the nature of the beast. Their offense is 10 times better than ours, and their players seem to have a hunger in them to win. I would damn happy to have Malzahn as a head coach here. Our team could regain the identity that we have seemed to lost over the past few years.

As far as classless, did they do any celebrating? Were they mocking us? So they had aggressive game calling, that is competing. A good coach prepares for the next game if he knows he has won the current one. Some of those trick plays they ran may have been practice in case they need to convert one in a game. One more question, how many of you were complaining when we were winning 50-17? It can't be a one way street. I would much rather be accused of running up a score then having the score run up against us.

MACMAN · Post by **MACMAN** » Fri Oct 31, 2008 2:10 pm

I hope as part of that contract extension, a provision was included that would force Brandon to going back to what worked....a fast paced high power offense....lately it looks as if Gary Blackney has been walking the side lines.

TG1996 · Post by **TG1996** » Fri Oct 31, 2008 2:59 pm

daspollak wrote:One more question, how many of you were complaining when we were winning 50-17? It can't be a one way street. I would much rather be accused of running up a score then having the score run up against us.

Research has shown that when we were winning those games (even the 70-XX games against Temple) that we threw the ball something like twice in the second half and most of those were with second stringers.

We're going to agree to disagree on the rest, because I just see it differently from you. I hope Tulsa goes down hard.

Flipper · Post by **Flipper** » Fri Oct 31, 2008 3:07 pm

TG...I don't know why people continue to bring up that "we ran up the score..." BS.. Every time it comes up, a simple review of the facts knocks it right down again. In his post game comments, WMU's coach made a point of thanking GB for calling off the dogs at halftime when his time was down by a gazillion. We took a knee inside Marshall's five yard line.... Hell...we were passing up FG tries in the 4th qtr of some games last year so it wouldn't look like we were trying to run it up...

We've won some ball games by very lopsided margins under GB, but I nver once thought we were being dicks about it like that jagoff down in Tulsa.

1987alum · Post by **1987alum** » Fri Oct 31, 2008 3:19 pm

Flipper wrote:TG...I don't know why people continue to bring up that "we ran up the score..." BS.. Every time it comes up, a simple review of the facts knocks it right down again. In his post game comments, WMU's coach made a point of thanking GB for calling off the dogs at halftime when his time was down by a gazillion. We took a knee inside Marshall's five yard line.... Hell...we were passing up FG tries in the 4th qtr of some games last year so it wouldn't look like we were trying to run it up...

We've won some ball games by very lopsided margins under GB, but I nver once thought we were being dicks about it like that jagoff down in Tulsa.

Flip, TG: Spot on. I was at the 52-0 WMU blowout and the first 10-TD display @ Temple. In both instances, GB had the second-, third- and fourt-string in early in the third quarter and, offensively, took the air out of the ball. You can't make an accusation of running up the score stick on Brandon.

The Tulsa putz, on the other hand, basically admitted that he purposely ran up the score so he could notch a spot in a record book. Classy.