JEWCY wrote:Brandon, you disgust me H.w is it the fans fault that coming into that game, BG was running its mouth saying they would win their division, nonetheless, the weaker one where Ball State isn't even in it.
How is it the fans fault that you had blown 3 4th quarter leads to Ohio, Miami and Buffalo? They are supportive in every way and to get thousands of fans to come out to watch a 5 loss team on a Friday night with the tempetures getting to be below ten degrees is still great.
you sir are a joke and if I see you on campus, I will let you have a piece of my mind without threats.
How you blame the fans is a coward move. I have no respect for you. I will continue to support the BG football though regetrabbly
to the responses he gave you in his emails just shows how he has no spine and acts like a little baby anytime he gets a halfway hard question dictated toward him. shows he will never make it to a bigger program than this.
BRANDON YOU ARE A JOKE AND HOW DARE YOU BLAME THE FANS
sorry for the vent, but this guy pisses me offf? yall agree?
sorry everyone, i am just so furious about this. i didn't say anything about killing or raping like others said, but common, he pissed me off when he threw the fans under the bus.
JEWCY wrote:Brandon, you disgust me H.w is it the fans fault that coming into that game, BG was running its mouth saying they would win their division, nonetheless, the weaker one where Ball State isn't even in it.
How is it the fans fault that you had blown 3 4th quarter leads to Ohio, Miami and Buffalo? They are supportive in every way and to get thousands of fans to come out to watch a 5 loss team on a Friday night with the tempetures getting to be below ten degrees is still great.
you sir are a joke and if I see you on campus, I will let you have a piece of my mind without threats.
How you blame the fans is a coward move. I have no respect for you. I will continue to support the BG football though regetrabbly
to the responses he gave you in his emails just shows how he has no spine and acts like a little baby anytime he gets a halfway hard question dictated toward him. shows he will never make it to a bigger program than this.
BRANDON YOU ARE A JOKE AND HOW DARE YOU BLAME THE FANS
sorry for the vent, but this guy pisses me offf? yall agree?
sorry everyone, i am just so furious about this. i didn't say anything about killing or raping like others said, but common, he pissed me off when he threw the fans under the bus.
edited out swear words and what not.
um, who said anything about raping?
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Ya know, the ironic part in this whole debacle is that if the stadium was full I doubt Brandon would have been able to leave the field with his job still in tact!
Anyway, I will not purchase another football ticket while Brandon is still the head coach.
The thing that stuck out about his response was that he even mentions the idea of things around here after he is gone. Plus it was the way he starts to try to define support. I sense a theme in an attempt to build a line of argument. It almost seems like he is looking ahead to the end of his contract looking to make arguments as to why to be retained.
In any case, he should not have replied, it was a lose-lose situation. And if he is so unaware of the fact that this website is the nexus for BGSU fans online, his approach towards Grant was doubly stupid.
This remains NW Ohio/BG. People do not forget comments like he made, nor do they brush them off. And word of his responses will be all over town. This will lead folks to start making comments about how often they seem him shop here or there, some fence sitters will pick a side, and things will get worse.
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JEWCY wrote:
Brandon has to realize he works as a D1 head coach with school that has a passionate fan base. Maybe not as large as the SEC or Big 12 fan base, but just as passionate at the core. When you take one of these jobs, it comes with the territory. If you can't handle it go back to being a coordinator or be a head coach at the high school level.
Rollo,
Way to put this in context. Can you imagine what would be said if this was tOSU, Florida, etc. and they had watched a 20 point lead evaporate in minutes, after allowing the opponent to do basically NOTHING for 3 quarters?
So he looks across at the stands and gets disappointed and calls the crowd pitiful? WTF does he think we do when we look down at the sidelines and see him?
Support isn’t running a message board that is demeaning and insulting not only to me, but my coaches and players as well.
I can't get past this quote from Brandon...He is so totally wrong here. I just can't believe it. Does he think that we wouldn't have these opinions if azz.com didn't exist?
If Grant ran firegreggbrandon.com, he might have an argument...but to say something like that about this website...wow.
Falcon30 wrote:Support isn’t running a message board that is demeaning and insulting not only to me, but my coaches and players as well.
I can't get past this quote from Brandon...He is so totally wrong here. I just can't believe it. Does he think that we wouldn't have these opinions if azz.com didn't exist?
If Grant ran firegreggbrandon.com, he might have an argument...but to say something like that about this website...wow.
That comment only re-enforces Brandon being grossly out of touch with reality. Sure these forums can be harsh. And I've known former coaches and figures within Athletics who bristle at our comments and views. But it is part of the way things are. And AZZ is anything but some backwoods website.
If he thinks this site is the worst to be found, he'll be unhappy to learn far more vitriol things are being said offline and among people in town.
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I just wanted a nice round 100 reply count on this thread.
Grant Cummings
ROLL ALONG!!!
"We are linked to this institution by invisible bonds that do not wither or dissolve." --BGSU President, Dr. Ralph W. McDonald - 1968
I gave myself a couple of days to write this because I wanted to clear my head and write you a clear message rather than a rant. As a current student at BGSU who did not attend the game on Friday, I am very upset with your comments. I have attended every other home game this season, showing up hours before to cheer for the team from the front row of the student section. However, because I live 12 hours away, and rarely make it home, I decided to take off Monday and Tuesday from class and leave on Friday for home to see my family. To exemplify my devotion, on my drive home on friday, I had the game on gametracker the entire ride just so I knew what was going on at all times even though I wasn't there. I've even traveled the past 2 years to the games in Minnesota, Pittsburgh and Michigan State, not exactly easy for a poor college student to do.
The fact is, fans don't win or lose games, teams do. Do fans help or hinder a team's performance? Absolutely. But, it is not the reason the team lost on friday. As a fan, I've watched this team be a victim of "pitiful" coaching all season.
Let's go back to the Eastern game, in front of a homecoming crowd, with 1:38 left in the game, we decide to run the ball outside the tackles and Bullock gets run out of bounds. Then, on 3rd and 6, instead of running the ball you decide it's better to throw, incomplete, and all of a sudden EMU has a chance to win the game with over a minute left and if memory serves me right, you left them with a timeout. That's horrible clock management. With 1:38 left, and a 4 point lead, you run the ball up the middle, if you don't get the first, fine, you punt and give them 20-30 seconds to go the length of the field. Instead you gave them the opportunity to run 6 plays and the marched down the field for a score. Let's not forget this came after EMU was coming off 2 straight 3 and outs, so you couldn't have been scared by their offense. why even give them that opportunity?
I was there for Minnesota, you couldn't pull it off. the crowds were fine for those two games, you couldn't get it done. and even when you had a 21 point lead against buffalo, couldn't get it done. All winnable games in the 4th quarter, if the fans are the reason you blew it, wouldn't the fans be part of the reason you were able to build leads?
We've had 4 games lost in the 4th quarter. We've held leads in the 4th quarter in 4 of our 6 losses. That's a result of a team showing up for 45 minutes, not 60, and that's on the coaching staff.
I agree the fan support at BGSU is pathetic. I remember a game my freshman year at BG where BG played at 6:00 and Ohio State played at 8, and at about 7:30 over half of the stadium left to go watch OSU. We are a division 1 program, we compete with teams like Ohio State, cheer for the school you belong to. No ones been a bigger advocate of that than me.
I'm not going to sit here and tell you I'm going to boycott the football team or anything like that, because the players do deserve better than that. I'll be out there next year cheering for the team every week, but I pray to God that I do not have to watch you make the same coaching blunders I've seen the past 3 years. The players and THE FANS deserve better.
I caved and sent an e-mail last night, kind of from a different angle since my parents have gone to every football game with me in my 4 years here.
Mr. Brandon,
I know for a fact this isn't the first email and I doubt it'll be the last you receive about this topic. I am a Senior here at BGSU, and have done everything possible to support the athletics here at this wonderful university. For your program, I have attended every home game and countless road games, and even attended home football games before I was even a student. I was there for the Gameday game vs. NIU, and took trips to Ball State and Miami in 2005, did the Wisconsin game in 2006, traveled to Michigan State last year and to Pittsburgh this year. I have seen the best, and the worst that the program has had to offer in the last 4 years, and that includes Homecoming losses to inferior opponents.
All that aside, I thought it was important to at least offer my opinion to you about the results of the game, and the comments made after the game about the actual attendance of the football game. First off, as a Senior at his last football game with so much riding on the line, I was extremely excited and looking forward to this game. A chance to take the lead in the MAC East, and more importantly with a win, a chance to beat Toledo to go play in Detroit against the West winner. The disappointment felt after that game is something I haven't felt from a sporting event in quite some time, and I know that you are obviously disappointed as well from the loss.
I woke up Saturday morning to read your post-game quotes in the Toledo Blade and was quite appalled with what I had read. Admittedly so, the attendance of the game was sparse at best, but considering the circumstances involved, I myself was expecting fewer people to be at the game and was actually surprised with the amount of people who showed. The reasons for that sparse crowd were both reflective of the weather and the start time, and your program's performance at home this season. Winning one game at home, with only 5 home games is more than disappointing, especially for a program that has consistently only drawn 5 home games for the last 4-5 years. The support of the fan base I believe is always reflective on the team's effort at home, and so we have what took place Friday night.
Your comments, however, struck a large nerve with me, and more so my family. My parents have accompanied me to every football game I have attended while being a student, and have spent a lot of their time and money to support the program through thick and thin. As students, I feel it is a duty to support the university that you attend, and not the Ohio State's and Michigan's. But, as parents, and all parents, they have a choice as to whether or not they wish to be involved with their children's education and furthermore, the extracurricular activities that their child partakes in at their university. My parents did this for my brother Jason, who graduated in 1999 and supported Gary Blackney through his last dismal years here at the university.
As your team ran off the field on Friday, refusing to acknowledge the alma mater by the band, my mother turned to me crying. She told me she was crying because her feet were numb from the biting cold, but I know she was crying for me because through all the travel, money spent, tailgaiting, and other expenses, that my 4 years of football here at BGSU have resulted in no MAC Championship games, a blow out bowl loss, and depending on Friday's game with Toledo, an overall record of 23-25 or 24-24. Disappointing to say the least that a winning record wasn't attainable with the talent recruited and the quality of teams played within the conference.
After 1999, my family swore off supporting the football team until Gary Blackney was fired. He was the next year, in 2000. We continued our support once Urban Meyer took over, and then yourself in 2003. However, much as with Blackney's tenure, there has been a steady decline in the performance of the program on and off the field under your direction. Players getting arrested, acting arrogant and above everyone else in the student body, and more importantly, skipping on their classes. Too often have I had classes with members of the football team who only show up when exams or quizzes are expected to given out that day. That comes back as a reflection upon you and your staff.
The students and the citizens of Bowling Green are passionate about their school and their community. I believe your comments will only serve to further separate the community from your program, and they will not be forgotten by those who have supported the players, and more so you. You are an ambassador of the university, and your actions and words reflect the attitude of your program and in general the athletic department. To alienate the fans who contribute their hard earned money to ticket sales, merchandise and donations to the Falcon Club and to the athletic department was a grievous error on your part, and demonstrates a severe lack of judgment.
I wish you luck against Toledo, because I believe the seniors on your team deserve to go out on top and on a high note in one of the most disappointing seasons in recent memory here at BGSU. After my graduation, I will choose to not attend any home football games as long as the program is under your direction. Call it a boycott, or a protest, but your comments were personally insulting to me, my family and those who have screamed their heads off at every home game for your football team, and that Coach, truly disgusts me.
