ST Letter to Editor - Fire Christopher

BGFootball · Post by **BGFootball** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 7:30 pm

freefalcon wrote:
Globetrotter wrote:
kdog27 wrote:You can't fire a guy who went 31-17 in the MAC and expect everything to be peachy. Some people are going be pissed. It's just the way it is.
And those people are like Stewart Mandel and don't really have any idea what is going on with the program.
No these folks know alot about this team and the program. I would say probably more than you. They take a extraordinary amount of time to get to know the kids on the team AND spend a lot of dollars (in contributions) for the team. I respect his opinion on both the firing of GB and their view on Mr Christopher.

Change is hard to handle sometimes. I only hope they keep supporting the team in the way they have in the past. I can (and will tell them in person) what great influence and respect they have with the players on this current team and the ones on past teams.

I only hope the new coach can smooth things out with them in the future. They are a huge asset to Bowling Green Football and to the players

Well said. I hope they know how much the players appreciate their support. No matter if it is a win or loss, the Brecklins are ALWAYS at the stadium waiting for the team busses to arrive. It could be 1, 2 or 7 in the morning and they are ALWAYS there. It really shows how much they care about the team. While everyone else may be in bed sleeping, they are there to welcome the team home. I hope they can find a way to work things out with the new coach, because the players would sure miss Mr. Brecklins intensity and Mrs. Brecklins cookies

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freefalcon · Post by **freefalcon** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 9:01 pm

BGFootball - u got mail

BGFootball · Post by **BGFootball** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 11:52 pm

freefalcon wrote:BGFootball - u got mail

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Globetrotter · Post by **Globetrotter** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 12:21 am

People are not right in their opinions just because they give money.

The fact is that Brandon was having trouble in the classroom, off the field and on the field. His win and loss number were hollow. I don't care how much money these people give or how close they appear to be to the program, the idea that Christopher needs to go and Brandon should stay is absolutely ludicrous. Christopher has done great things at the University already and I look forward to more.

jg4242 · Post by **jg4242** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 1:52 am

The Brecklins also pay for the scholarship fund that helps compensate members of the athletic band for their time and efforts throughout the season. For that alone I thank them for their support. However, I disagree with their assessment of Mr. Christopher. In the admittedly limited contact I've had with him, I've seen or heard nothing that indicates that he is anything but a class act. I have a hard time buying an argument for his termination here...

kdog27 · Post by **kdog27** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 6:24 am

Globetrotter wrote:People are not right in their opinions just because they give money.

The fact is that Brandon was having trouble in the classroom, off the field and on the field. His win and loss number were hollow. I don't care how much money these people give or how close they appear to be to the program, the idea that Christopher needs to go and Brandon should stay is absolutely ludicrous. Christopher has done great things at the University already and I look forward to more.

I agree with what you are saying but you compared this family to Stewart Mandel.

If what everyone here is saying is accurate than they definitely have an idea of what is going on in the program. They have invested a great deal of money and more importantly their own time in it. They have as much right to be angry with the decision as you and I do to be happy with the decision.

I do not like how they call for everyone else to follow their lead. If they want to cut ties with the program that is their business, but do not try to start a revolution.

Redwingtom · Post by **Redwingtom** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 8:07 am

I am willing to bet that other great financial and moral supporters of the BG Football program like this couple had the exact opposite opinion of Coach Brandon, and let Mr. Christopher know about it.

NWLB · Post by **NWLB** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 9:46 am

There were people unhappy that Blackney was not retained (even if technically he resigned.)

I'm curious where they were when Blackney was here, that they have only supported things since Urban. Were they really BGSU supporters, or people enjoying the social distraction of following a bright new coach and are unhappy their link to him has been invited to mount a rail on its way out of town?

If they choose to support a coach over the school or program that is their right, but another coach will come, the team will continue to play, and more donors than came on board with Urban will replace their money and attention. I wasn't a Brandon fan, but that stemmed from a want for better things for BGSU's football program.

These days, I think being a "supporter" of a coach is basically a bad idea. I want a team that represents my alma mater well. By winning on the field, doing well academically off the field, and not showing up in the blotter to excess. Any staff that can manage a program towards those ends will have my support.

Post by **ZiggyZoomba** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 10:22 am

NWLB wrote:There were people unhappy that Blackney was not retained (even if technically he resigned.)

I'm curious where they were when Blackney was here, that they have only supported things since Urban. Were they really BGSU supporters, or people enjoying the social distraction of following a bright new coach and are unhappy their link to him has been invited to mount a rail on its way out of town?

If they choose to support a coach over the school or program that is their right, but another coach will come, the team will continue to play, and more donors than came on board with Urban will replace their money and attention. I wasn't a Brandon fan, but that stemmed from a want for better things for BGSU's football program.

These days, I think being a "supporter" of a coach is basically a bad idea. I want a team that represents my alma mater well. By winning on the field, doing well academically off the field, and not showing up in the blotter to excess. Any staff that can manage a program towards those ends will have my support.

Great post, Nathan! +1

Globetrotter · Post by **Globetrotter** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 11:20 am

NWLB wrote:
These days, I think being a "supporter" of a coach is basically a bad idea. I want a team that represents my alma mater well. By winning on the field, doing well academically off the field, and not showing up in the blotter to excess. Any staff that can manage a program towards those ends will have my support.

Agreed here. And for me you dont have to win all the time. For me it was the embarassing losses that did it for me and Brandon. I can count atleast 5 in the last three years without even trying. Compete and I am happy.

Warthog · Post by **Warthog** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 11:29 am

Globetrotter wrote:For me it was the embarassing losses that did it for me and Brandon. I can count atleast 5 in the last three years without even trying.

Cue up cowboyjoe with his "but Central lost to Eastern and no one is calling for Butch Jones' head" blather.

NWLB · Post by **NWLB** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 11:54 am

Warthog wrote:
Globetrotter wrote:For me it was the embarassing losses that did it for me and Brandon. I can count atleast 5 in the last three years without even trying.
Cue up cowboyjoe with his "but Central lost to Eastern and no one is calling for Butch Jones' head" blather.

He's just mad that somebody fired his dad.

I almost responded to that post of his, but frankly I didn't see a point. However, since you bring it up!

As there were with Blackeny, there will be with Brandon. Heck, there were folks that were convinced we somehow could have kept Urban. Cowboyjoe is a fan at the end of the day, but I think his view is simply off base, and the related position that GB should have been retained or supported was wrong. It is moot now thankfully, but if the next coach does anything but win every game for five years, with players who get 4.0 grade point averages, then he or somebody will crow that firing GB was wrong. It won't change the invalidity of the views they espoused now, but they'll make the case. There such people around when Urban lost his first game, failed to win the MAC, etc.

I'll live long enough to see another 12 or more BGSU coaches, or so I figure. As the line from Pete Pan goes, "all of this has happened before, and will happen again."

Globetrotter · Post by **Globetrotter** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 12:40 pm

This is what I want from a coach.....Make the momentum go up for the program in terms of on the field performance and people in the seats and keep that momentum moving up. Brandon inherited a train climbing a hill swiftly and at the very least brought it back to a standstill. Dakich had a ton of momentum, produced it himself and then it died on him so he had to go, Orr looks like a great hire already simply because of the buzz and momentum he has generated.

Brandon fizzled out and had to go.

Thats all I want from the coach. Butts in the seats, an entertaining team on the field and continuous improvement.

kdog27 · Post by **kdog27** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 12:50 pm

Warthog wrote:
Globetrotter wrote:For me it was the embarassing losses that did it for me and Brandon. I can count atleast 5 in the last three years without even trying.
Cue up cowboyjoe with his "but Central lost to Eastern and no one is calling for Butch Jones' head" blather.

Don't forget that Florida lost to Miss St.

bgsufalcon24 · Post by **bgsufalcon24** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 12:53 pm

kdog27 wrote:
Warthog wrote:
Globetrotter wrote:For me it was the embarassing losses that did it for me and Brandon. I can count atleast 5 in the last three years without even trying.
Cue up cowboyjoe with his "but Central lost to Eastern and no one is calling for Butch Jones' head" blather.
Don't forget that Florida lost to Miss St.

Florida lost to Miss, not Miss St.