Boise State or Ohio State?

[bgsufalcon24]

I think its the bowls who pick and not the commissioners. We could email that specific bowl....i think likely the sugar bowl?

From what I have been hearing here in Columbus and from a friend who is a Texas fan, the most likely scenario is Texas vs. OSU in the Fiesta Bowl. There is a chance OSU could play Florida or Alabama in the Sugar Bowl as well.

And, the BCS commissioners only select the teams for the championship game. All other bowls are selected by the bowl games themselves. I know what a lot of you think of Kirk Herbstreit and that he is a "homer" for the major programs but he did make a good point yesterday about the OSU-Boise argument. How much "buzz" will there be about a Texas-Boise game compared to the "buzz" for a Texas-OSU game nationally? Can anyone actually say it is even close? He admitted that the bowls don't always do what is right but they do what is best for them, just like any business would do. And the best thing for the Fiesta Bowl is having OSU play Texas.

I don't understand that argument because OSU just played Texas twice in the last 3-4 seasons. Boise has never played Texas. Why would people want to see a game they've already seen?

[98_BG_GRAD]

I think its the bowls who pick and not the commissioners. We could email that specific bowl....i think likely the sugar bowl?

From what I have been hearing here in Columbus and from a friend who is a Texas fan, the most likely scenario is Texas vs. OSU in the Fiesta Bowl. There is a chance OSU could play Florida or Alabama in the Sugar Bowl as well.

And, the BCS commissioners only select the teams for the championship game. All other bowls are selected by the bowl games themselves. I know what a lot of you think of Kirk Herbstreit and that he is a "homer" for the major programs but he did make a good point yesterday about the OSU-Boise argument. How much "buzz" will there be about a Texas-Boise game compared to the "buzz" for a Texas-OSU game nationally? Can anyone actually say it is even close? He admitted that the bowls don't always do what is right but they do what is best for them, just like any business would do. And the best thing for the Fiesta Bowl is having OSU play Texas.

I don't understand that argument because OSU just played Texas twice in the last 3-4 seasons. Boise has never played Texas. Why would people want to see a game they've already seen?

I think the point is that people around the country are always going to want to see two all-time great programs who are ranked in the top-10 play each other rather than one of them and a mid-major. Just the way it is!

[tekekini]

hate to burst your bubbles but representatives from a certain BCS bowl were apparently rooting for Oregon to beat Oregon State so that USC would go to the Rose Bowl and Ohio State would move up. This certain bowl has final pick.

OSU in a bowl game changes an entire city's economy. Boise just gives it a slight bump.

Nobody wants to see a repeat of Hawaii last year. If you put Boise up against Texas or Florida/Alabama it will be a 60 point blow out whether you want to believe it or not. You small guys need to stick together so I get why you want to believe in Boise so much. They got lucky once on a few gimmick plays.

[h2oville rocket]

You small guys need to stick together so I get why you want to believe in Boise so much. They got lucky once on a few gimmick plays.

Uh, don't look now but you're one of the small guys. BG isn't exactly a huge football school, teke.

[bgsufalcon24]

You small guys need to stick together so I get why you want to believe in Boise so much. They got lucky once on a few gimmick plays.

Uh, don't look now but you're one of the small guys. BG isn't exactly a huge football school, teke.

But at least it's bigger than Toledo.

[kdog27]

They got lucky once on a few gimmick plays.

Right, you don't really believe that. They didn't control 90% of that game or anything. I happened to be in Oklahoma City at that time for 2 months of work training. Everyone at the bar I was at during that game would admit that Boise outplayed OU all game long and in OT as well. The reaction of that bar and the city for the next 2 days was priceless.

The non BCS teams are 2-1 in BCS bowl games so far, they have held up their end of the bargain. Yeah Hawaii got blownout, but they are not the only ones.

[tekekini]

They got lucky once on a few gimmick plays.

Yeah Hawaii got blownout, but they are not the only ones.

I agree Hawaii s not the only ones to get blown out. Utah will be the next one to get blown out. They barely beat Michigan and we all know where Michigan is going to be during this holiday/bowl season.

[kdog27]

They got lucky once on a few gimmick plays.

Yeah Hawaii got blownout, but they are not the only ones.

I agree Hawaii s not the only ones to get blown out. Utah will be the next one to get blown out. They barely beat Michigan and we all know where Michigan is going to be during this holiday/bowl season.

Ohio State barely beat Ohio AT HOME. What's your point?

[Globetrotter]

hate to burst your bubbles but representatives from a certain BCS bowl were apparently rooting for Oregon to beat Oregon State so that USC would go to the Rose Bowl and Ohio State would move up. This certain bowl has final pick.

OSU in a bowl game changes an entire city's economy. Boise just gives it a slight bump.

Nobody wants to see a repeat of Hawaii last year. If you put Boise up against Texas or Florida/Alabama it will be a 60 point blow out whether you want to believe it or not. You small guys need to stick together so I get why you want to believe in Boise so much. They got lucky once on a few gimmick plays.

No one wants to see a repeat of USC OSU 2008 or OSU's previous two bowl whippings either. The idea that the loss by Hawaii should hurt Non-BCS teams is silly unless you also think the loss by OSU should hurt OSU.

I would love to see OSU travel to Boise or Utah. Love it.

Also for those of you who think it should all be about the economics an OSU ND match up would make the most money.

[bgsukid]

Also for those of you who think it should all be about the economics an OSU ND match up would make the most money.

And ND would get selected if they'd met the minimum requirments to be selected to a BCS bowl as they did when they weren't the most qualified team in 2000, 2005 or 2006.
There's been 42 BCS bowl games and the 3 where non-BCS teams were involved are all among the 7 lowest rated BCS bowls ever. I'm pretty sure the bowl selection commitee's are aware of that too. You don't have to like it or agree with it, but those are the facts when it comes to the economics of the situation.

[h2oville rocket]

You small guys need to stick together so I get why you want to believe in Boise so much. They got lucky once on a few gimmick plays.

Uh, don't look now but you're one of the small guys. BG isn't exactly a huge football school, teke.

But at least it's bigger than Toledo.

Yeah, but you 've got Teke. We don't.

[Globetrotter]

Also for those of you who think it should all be about the economics an OSU ND match up would make the most money.

And ND would get selected if they'd met the minimum requirments to be selected to a BCS bowl as they did when they weren't the most qualified team in 2000, 2005 or 2006.
There's been 42 BCS bowl games and the 3 where non-BCS teams were involved are all among the 7 lowest rated BCS bowls ever. I'm pretty sure the bowl selection commitee's are aware of that too. You don't have to like it or agree with it, but those are the facts when it comes to the economics of the situation.

http://www.bcsfootball.org/bcsfb/tvratings

2003
Fiesta Ohio State-Miami 17.2
Rose Oklahoma-Washington State 11.3
Orange USC-Iowa 9.7
Sugar Florida State-Georgia 9.2

2004
Sugar Bowl Oklahoma-LSU 14.5 79,342
Rose Bowl USC-Michigan 14.4 93,849
Orange Bowl Miami-Florida State 9.7 76,739
Fiesta Bowl Ohio State-Kansas State 8.7 73,425

2005
Orange Southern Cal-Oklahoma 13.7 77,912
Sugar Auburn-Virginia Tech 9.5 77,349
Fiesta Utah-Pittsburgh 7.4 73,519
Rose Michigan-Texas 12.4 93,468

2006
Rose Southern Cal-Texas 21.7 93,986
Fiesta Ohio State-Notre Dame 12.9 76,196
Orange Penn State-Florida State 12.3 77,773
Sugar Georgia-West Virginia 9.0 74,458

2007
Championship Game Florida-Ohio St.17.40 93,852
Rose Southern Cal-Michigan 13.94 93,852
Fiesta Boise St.-Oklahoma 8.40 73,719
Orange Louisville-Wake Forest 6.98 74,470
Sugar Notre Dame-LSU 9.29 77,781

2008
Championship Game LSU-Ohio St. 17.40 79,651
Rose Southern Cal-Illinois 11.11 93,923
Fiesta W. Virginia-Oklahoma 7.70 70,016
Orange Kansas-Va. Tech 7.40 74,111
Sugar Georgia-Hawaii 7.00 74,383

There is the raw numbers. Interesting to see that the Big East and ACC have not exactly had great numbers during the same time, over the last 4 years.

[bgsukid]

There is the raw numbers. Interesting to see that the Big East and ACC have not exactly had great numbers during the same time, over the last 4 years.

Not too surprising, those two conferences are generally thought of as the two weakest BCS conferences and really don't have any marquee teams with large fanbases or teams that have great tradition. Pac-10 has USC, Big Ten has Ohio State, Michigan and Penn State, Big XII has Oklahoma, Texas and Nebraska, SEC has Alabama, Georgia, LSU, Florida, Tennessee. The ACC and Big East have nobody that can compete with the national interest and fanbases all those schools bring to the table. You could maybe make an arguement for Miami and Florida State, but those two schools were nobodies 30 years ago and haven't been very interesting to watch the last five years. The ACC has consistently sent 3-4 loss teams to the BCS and hasn't won a BCS game in nearly a decade. West Virginia has saved the Big East by getting a few good wins recently, they sent a horrendous excuse for a confernce champion to play Utah a few years ago. I can't say there's a single team in either conference I'm interested in seeing play in a BCS game.

[bgsufalcon24]

There is the raw numbers. Interesting to see that the Big East and ACC have not exactly had great numbers during the same time, over the last 4 years.

Not too surprising, those two conferences are generally thought of as the two weakest BCS conferences and really don't have any marquee teams with large fanbases or teams that have great tradition. Pac-10 has USC, Big Ten has Ohio State, Michigan and Penn State, Big XII has Oklahoma, Texas and Nebraska, SEC has Alabama, Georgia, LSU, Florida, Tennessee. The ACC and Big East have nobody that can compete with the national interest and fanbases all those schools bring to the table. You could maybe make an arguement for Miami and Florida State, but those two schools were nobodies 30 years ago and haven't been very interesting to watch the last five years. The ACC has consistently sent 3-4 loss teams to the BCS and hasn't won a BCS game in nearly a decade. West Virginia has saved the Big East by getting a few good wins recently, they sent a horrendous excuse for a confernce champion to play Utah a few years ago. I can't say there's a single team in either conference I'm interested in seeing play in a BCS game.

The fact that Virginia Tech and Cincy are getting into the BCS ahead of Boise State is <insert crude adjective here>

VT isn't even ranked for christ sake!!

[bgsukid]

As expected Ohio State's getting the bid over Boise State. Michigan State has already accepted a bid to the Capital One bowl which is where Ohio State would've ended up had they not been selected for a BCS game.