Walk-on question

MarkL · Post by **MarkL** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:26 am

Hey all -

A fraternity brother of mine is passionate about walking on the team as whatever position coaches deem best for him. He was a standout RB and LB in high school and was set to walk on the team last year as a DB but hurt his back bad in lifting. This guy is very strong and fast - timed at a 4.32 40 at a MSU football camp. Luke F, LB coach at OSU, thinks very highly of him. He's also a great character, a team character, values are right where they need to be, and is currently just a freshman.

So ... does anybody know who he should contact to walk on the team? He e-mailed Coach Clawson about a week and a half ago and no response yet - I told him that Coach C is so busy with recruiting and hiring staff that he probably hasn't slept since he was hired in December. Does anybody know if there is a walk-on coordinator yet, or if there is a walk-on tryout day set up?

Thanks in advance!!

h2oville rocket · Post by **h2oville rocket** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 9:03 am

Browse > Home / 40 Yard Dash, Fitness Testing / Fastest 40 Yard Dash Time? Fastest 40 Yard Dash Time?
January 24, 2008 by Jimson Lee

The shortest distance the IAAF recognizes for indoor world record performances is the 50 meters (approx 54 yards) run in 5.56 seconds set by Canadian sprinter Donovan Bailey in 1996. The irony is he was considered a poor starter!

The current world record for 60 meters is 6.39 seconds set twice by American Maurice Greene in 1998 and 2001.

Canadian Ben Johnson broke the WR in the 50 yard dash in a time of 5.15 seconds in January 1988.

The Fastest 40 Yard Dash?
It was reported Ben Johnson splits in his ill-famous 9.79 100 meter race in Seoul was 4.38 seconds for 40 yards, 5.52 seconds for 50 meters, and 60 meters in 6.37. Both the 50m and 60m were under the current world records for those distances at the time.

At the 2001 World Championship 100m final in Edmonton, Maurice Greene covered 30m in 3.75 seconds and 40m in 4.64 seconds, extrapolating his 40 yard (36.576m) time at about 4.24 seconds.

Your friend needs to go to a school with Men's Track and forget about football.

Globetrotter · Post by **Globetrotter** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 10:00 am

That doesnt make sense. They had 60 more meters to run. Maybe they would have run faster 40 times if they did not have more to run. Impossible to tell.

Jacobs4Heisman · Post by **Jacobs4Heisman** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 10:15 am

If the dude runs a legit 4.32 and was a standout RB and LB in high school, there's a 0% chance he'd be walking on at a MAC school.

MarkL · Post by **MarkL** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 10:20 am

Jacobs4Heisman wrote:If the dude runs a legit 4.32 and was a standout RB and LB in high school, there's a 0% chance he'd be walking on at a MAC school.

He was recruited by Ohio State and Michigan State among others, but between injuring his back and the choral music program at BG, he decided to attend here with the possibility of walking on the team. Like i said, his focus is where it needs to be - academics first. I'm not sure how bad the back is right now, but based off how he played in our annual probationary member vs active member football game, I'd say the back can't be hurting him too bad now.

Globetrotter · Post by **Globetrotter** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 10:46 am

What kinds of things do you do with your members in that game?

hammb · Post by **hammb** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 11:26 am

Globetrotter wrote:That doesnt make sense. They had 60 more meters to run. Maybe they would have run faster 40 times if they did not have more to run. Impossible to tell.

Wrong. The 100m is a 100% dead sprint for those guys from start to finish. Whatever they cover the 40 yard split in is the fasted a human can run a 40 yard dash.

The times you read about recruits and draft sites for 40 yard dashes are about as legit as alchemy.

Globetrotter · Post by **Globetrotter** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 11:35 am

hammb wrote:
Globetrotter wrote:That doesnt make sense. They had 60 more meters to run. Maybe they would have run faster 40 times if they did not have more to run. Impossible to tell.
Wrong. The 100m is a 100% dead sprint for those guys from start to finish. Whatever they cover the 40 yard split in is the fasted a human can run a 40 yard dash.

The times you read about recruits and draft sites for 40 yard dashes are about as legit as alchemy.

Um, no. The idea that people do not have more fatigue in 100 meters vs 40 meters is just silly.

The timing on the start would matter the most.

factman · Post by **factman** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 11:35 am

..........unless RF say it's true!

takeoffeh · Post by **takeoffeh** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 11:43 am

MarkL,
Have your friend contact Jeannine Ware, football secretary, at 419-372-7083. That'd be my first step. If she doesn't know, she'll know who to contact. If your friend gets to try-out during Spring-ball, make sure he's in great shape and ready for some physical practices. Best of luck to him, I hope he does well.

h2oville rocket · Post by **h2oville rocket** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 11:54 am

Globetrotter wrote:
hammb wrote:
Globetrotter wrote:That doesnt make sense. They had 60 more meters to run. Maybe they would have run faster 40 times if they did not have more to run. Impossible to tell.
Wrong. The 100m is a 100% dead sprint for those guys from start to finish. Whatever they cover the 40 yard split in is the fasted a human can run a 40 yard dash.

The times you read about recruits and draft sites for 40 yard dashes are about as legit as alchemy.
Um, no. The idea that people do not have more fatigue in 100 meters vs 40 meters is just silly.

The timing on the start would matter the most.

Not sure how much track you've run but Hambb is pretty much correct. There's really no fatigue factor in 40 meters and you certainly don't hold back in the first 40 so you can finish that last grueling 60 meters. To think that a world class track athlete, using starting blocks, the fastest surfaces in the world and track specific speed training would be slower than a high school kid timed at a football camp is silly. I used to run 40s with some of the football guys years ago- The times were ridiculous-I was blazing fast, only see- I wasn't. Its like Dusan Radonovich or whatever being 6'8" then ending up maybe 6'5". Everybody WANTS to run a 4.3- nobody really does.

Globetrotter · Post by **Globetrotter** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:06 pm

I actually agree with him I just think he was a prick in the way he answered

Warthog · Post by **Warthog** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:11 pm

Globetrotter wrote:I actually agree with him I just think he was a prick in the way he answered

He can't help that.

hammb · Post by **hammb** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:46 pm

Warthog wrote:
Globetrotter wrote:I actually agree with him I just think he was a prick in the way he answered
He can't help that.

LOL, yeah, I can be a dick sometimes. Sorry Globe, didn't mean to offend.

40 times are just a very annoying subject to me. They're such bullshit that I don't even know why they get published anymore.

BGSUfalcons · Post by **BGSUfalcons** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:54 pm

h2oville rocket wrote:Browse > Home / 40 Yard Dash, Fitness Testing / Fastest 40 Yard Dash Time? Fastest 40 Yard Dash Time?
January 24, 2008 by Jimson Lee

The shortest distance the IAAF recognizes for indoor world record performances is the 50 meters (approx 54 yards) run in 5.56 seconds set by Canadian sprinter Donovan Bailey in 1996. The irony is he was considered a poor starter!

The current world record for 60 meters is 6.39 seconds set twice by American Maurice Greene in 1998 and 2001.

Canadian Ben Johnson broke the WR in the 50 yard dash in a time of 5.15 seconds in January 1988.

The Fastest 40 Yard Dash?
It was reported Ben Johnson splits in his ill-famous 9.79 100 meter race in Seoul was 4.38 seconds for 40 yards, 5.52 seconds for 50 meters, and 60 meters in 6.37. Both the 50m and 60m were under the current world records for those distances at the time.

At the 2001 World Championship 100m final in Edmonton, Maurice Greene covered 30m in 3.75 seconds and 40m in 4.64 seconds, extrapolating his 40 yard (36.576m) time at about 4.24 seconds.

Your friend needs to go to a school with Men's Track and forget about football.

I agree that many, probably most, of the reported 40 times for these high school athletes are bogus. But, most 40 times start on the runner's movement whereas track and field athletes must react to the gun. Do you any information in which that is accounted for?