Everyone on this board whether they are in BG or elsewhere in the country
would do everything possible to help this program and many already have.
We need people within the administration to address these rumors and the
poor play of this program . Let's be honest, if this program was at least competitive and finishing in the top 5 of the CCHA on an annual basis the arena attendance would be much better and there wouldn't be any talk of
dropping the program. If the university ever did anything that stupid there would be no way I could ever support the university in any capacity again.
If we're scratching for money let's start looking at the extra fat in the administration.
First thing to do....FIRE PALUCH. Period. Bring in someone that wants to build BG back into the winner it used to be. I am so sick and tired of seeing BG at the bottom of the CCHA every year.
Second, IF hockey ever gets the axe, so will my Falcon Club donation. I am not the biggest hockey fan BG has but enjoy watching the games and following the team. This program has so much history and tradition. It has sunk to the bottom and that's unacceptable. If the team was winning and competitive, the IA would be full and rockin' like it used to be.
We simply cannot allow hockey to get the axe. Whatever I can do personally, I will.
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Falconfreak90 wrote:First thing to do....FIRE PALUCH. Period. Bring in someone that wants to build BG back into the winner it used to be.
Freak, I'm not sure it's for lack of effort or desire. I think Paluch wants to win here - it just hasn't worked out that way. And that is frustrating to someone like me.
Fanatic and I were having a discussion off-line and both of us are broken hearted that it hasn't worked out for Paluch. I pull for my fellow alumni and students - regardless! Paluch hasn't worked out.
It just hasn't worked out and I and a lot of other alumnus know this. I still wish him well much like I wish all of my fellow alumnus and current student well. We are one family. That is why I made BGSU my Alma Mater.
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sbkbghockey wrote:Even if these rumors are true I don't think they would be for a few years.
If the Unv. decided to end ice hockey I assume they'd use the money saved to fix up the ice arena since it is one of the few buildings that is used by the community as well.
I suspect BG club hockey would move up to ACHA DI and fill the hockey void of students and fans much like Kent State, Mich-Dearborn, etc.
If they end varsity hockey I pray to god they put a bullet into the club team too.
Frankly, I'd make my life's mission to see the club team halted or hindered at every single possible front, now and forever, should varsity hockey go down.
I would think a club player would not wish to see varsity hockey come to an end. You sure won't earn any favors or friends in this town by doing less than camping in front of somebody's office in favor of varsity hockey.
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I just wonder if they've kept the Coach, knowing that the program is going to be down graded or eliminated???
Why worry about doing anything about the staff (and the team record), knowing that the program is terminal?
I've also wondered how we are affording $$ the new football staff (a Big Ten coach, a Marshall coach who was employed by his alma mater - taken away) maybe they've known - budget money will become available when Hockey is down graded at the end of the season??
This is all just pure speculation.
My hope is that the Hockey program is going to be upgraded!!! Who knows at this point?
NWLB wrote:If they end varsity hockey I pray to god they put a bullet into the club team too.
Frankly, I'd make my life's mission to see the club team halted or hindered at every single possible front, now and forever, should varsity hockey go down.
Why? Just wondering why you feel strongly against the club team. Can't say I ever saw them play or knew much about them. I never heard anything bad though.
NWLB wrote:If they end varsity hockey I pray to god they put a bullet into the club team too.
Frankly, I'd make my life's mission to see the club team halted or hindered at every single possible front, now and forever, should varsity hockey go down.
Why? Just wondering why you feel strongly against the club team. Can't say I ever saw them play or knew much about them. I never heard anything bad though.
I said if varsity hockey goes. And generally I don't have much against the club team.
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It would suck not to have hockey at BGSU. Even though I wasn't born yet, any time the subject of BGSU sports comes up with an outsider the 1984 National Championship is always a great thing to slip in. Plenty of DI schools don't have any national championships, so it's a great thing for our university no matter how long ago it happened.
Re. Scott Paluch; I too feel bad that it hasn't worked out for him because he is an alum. I'll never officially go on the record as saying a former Falcon should get canned, but it's obvious that he's taken the program as far as he can. Maybe it's not his fault, I don't really know. If he returns as coach I'll still be rooting for him, and hope for a big turnaround. I couldn't do any less for a fellow BG guy, but it might be time for a change.
Unfortuantely this program is finding it harder and harder to live off it's great history, which is the main argument for keeping it. The history is un-real, a national title, olympic gold medalists, several NHL players and stars. But so much of that history just happened so long ago...I wonder if decision makers at BGSU now who weren't a part of it can put that in context.
I really loved going to the games as a student, I wish I was still able to support them with my attendance.
NWLB wrote:If they end varsity hockey I pray to god they put a bullet into the club team too.
Frankly, I'd make my life's mission to see the club team halted or hindered at every single possible front, now and forever, should varsity hockey go down.
Why? Just wondering why you feel strongly against the club team. Can't say I ever saw them play or knew much about them. I never heard anything bad though.
I said if varsity hockey goes. And generally I don't have much against the club team.
OK, but I still don't see why the club team should suffer should the real team go away. (God forbid of course.)
Falconfreak90 wrote:First thing to do....FIRE PALUCH. Period. Bring in someone that wants to build BG back into the winner it used to be.
Freak, I'm not sure it's for lack of effort or desire. I think Paluch wants to win here - it just hasn't worked out that way. And that is frustrating to someone like me.
Fanatic and I were having a discussion off-line and both of us are broken hearted that it hasn't worked out for Paluch. I pull for my fellow alumni and students - regardless! Paluch hasn't worked out.
It just hasn't worked out and I and a lot of other alumnus know this. I still wish him well much like I wish all of my fellow alumnus and current student well. We are one family. That is why I made BGSU my Alma Mater.
Exactly. It hasn't worked out. So, you need to replace him. Hey, Moe Ankney was a BG alum as well and I wanted him canned after his 2nd year. Paluch had his chance...it ain't happening. Nothing personal. He was a fine player for BG but as HC, it ain't working. He'll always be a Falcon but a change is needed....
Michael W.
BGSU-12 TIME MAC CHAMPION
FALCON FOOTBALL ROCKS!
NWLB wrote:If they end varsity hockey I pray to god they put a bullet into the club team too.
Frankly, I'd make my life's mission to see the club team halted or hindered at every single possible front, now and forever, should varsity hockey go down.
I would think a club player would not wish to see varsity hockey come to an end. You sure won't earn any favors or friends in this town by doing less than camping in front of somebody's office in favor of varsity hockey.
1) As I stated earlier I was merely pointing out what has happened at a number of schools over the past 10-20 years. I myself would be out the door if BG ended NCAA Hockey and I'm sure many club players, students fans, and prospective students would be too! One goal I've heard BG has, is to retain students and increase enrollment: loosing NCAA would hurt the current population and proably hurt the future student pops.
Falconfreak90 wrote:First thing to do....FIRE PALUCH. Period. Bring in someone that wants to build BG back into the winner it used to be.
Freak, I'm not sure it's for lack of effort or desire. I think Paluch wants to win here - it just hasn't worked out that way. And that is frustrating to someone like me.
Fanatic and I were having a discussion off-line and both of us are broken hearted that it hasn't worked out for Paluch. I pull for my fellow alumni and students - regardless! Paluch hasn't worked out.
It just hasn't worked out and I and a lot of other alumnus know this. I still wish him well much like I wish all of my fellow alumnus and current student well. We are one family. That is why I made BGSU my Alma Mater.
Exactly. It hasn't worked out. So, you need to replace him. Hey, Moe Ankney was a BG alum as well and I wanted him canned after his 2nd year. Paluch had his chance...it ain't happening. Nothing personal. He was a fine player for BG but as HC, it ain't working. He'll always be a Falcon but a change is needed....
More importantly than everything regarding Coach P is that he is an absolutely phenomenal person. I know it is a bit of a cliche, and kind of an "out" to say this about someone upon whom you are wishing termination, but I had the opportunity to get to know Coach during my time at BG. He was always one of the kindest, hardest working people that I ever met there, and it was crystal clear just how much he cared for BGSU and Falcon hockey. I have never doubted his passion, no matter how bad the results have been on the ice.
I really, really wish that things had worked out for Paluch here, because he is the type of person that I am proud to have associated with the University.
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NY-BG-FAN wrote:
OK, but I still don't see why the club team should suffer should the real team go away. (God forbid of course.)
The club team would suffer, as would every other organization and individual that uses the Ice Arena. There would be no improvements made and it would probably be closed within 2 years.
The rumor about hockey going away has been circulating for a couple years. Since BEFORE the president was named. And since we're on the subject of rumors, it's rumored that the alumni with the $$$ to make something happen are waiting for the University to put up there share. THEY want to see a COMMITMENT by the UNIVERSITY to the hockey program. Quite frankly $4 million dollars is a drop in the bucket for the University. It sounds like a big investment to the general public, but in reality it's not. Put up the money so that everybody knows they are serious and see what happens.
If this is true, it is a sad day for BGSU. Historically, hockey is probably BG's best sport. Killing the program would be a tragedy.
However, if it is false, the administration needs to come outNOW and kill the rumors. If they don't, it will cripple recruiting, players will transfer and they might have to end the program anyway just to stop the bleeding. Who would want to go to a program that might be dead in a few years anyway? If the administration is not serious about this, then they are badly mismanaging this issue.
Look at the teams from the soon-to-be-defunct CHA. Niagara and Robert Morris are set, but Alabama-Huntsville and Bemidji State are scrambling to find a conference so their programs don't go under. Not exactly encouraging for any potential recruits
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murphdogg wrote:If this is true, it is a sad day for BGSU. Historically, hockey is probably BG's best sport. Killing the program would be a tragedy.
However, if it is false, the administration needs to come outNOW and kill the rumors. If they don't, it will cripple recruiting, players will transfer and they might have to end the program anyway just to stop the bleeding. Who would want to go to a program that might be dead in a few years anyway? If the administration is not serious about this, then they are badly mismanaging this issue.
Look at the teams from the soon-to-be-defunct CHA. Niagara and Robert Morris are set, but Alabama-Huntsville and Bemidji State are scrambling to find a conference so their programs don't go under. Not exactly encouraging for any potential recruits
Hopefully the rumors will die tomorrow. If the admin lets rumors like this go that adds another clue to the puzzle: 1) keeping Paluch, 2) no upgrades to ice arena in a long time 3) these rumors being allowed to continue.
on a side note: Niagara and RMU are set in Atlantic Hockey when the CHA dies, Bemidji is most likely going to join the WCHA- they've increased WCHA play over the past few seasons and are building a new arena, AH is stuck- if they dont end their DI program I suspect they'd go with Atlantic Hockey too.
Who knows at this point?
Paluch had his chance...it ain't happening. Nothing personal. He was a fine player for BG but as HC, it ain't working. He'll always be a Falcon but a change is needed....
