Is the Stroh Center in jeopardy of not being built???

[hammb]

Understandable, but I think the point a lot of people are missing (although I'm not saying you are) is that the Stroh family has donated quite a bit to academics and other more general use facilities, which is why I get so sensitive about people disrespecting them or their donation.

That's the point that needs to be underlined, bolded and italicized every chance it can get. A very generous man who not only served as a trustee, but built generations of one of the most loyal Falcon families out there despite not even attending the school himself decided to put his support behind what he viewed as a need for the university. That's on top of all the other academic support and donations he and his family have made.

Anyone that wants to speak down toward that deserves a steel-toed boot.

As for Tech's advocating the devil... I don't care if Paul Olscamp wants to donate millions to build a better curling sheet. If the generosity is there, who is the university to turn it down?

Besides, it's not like the academic side is being neglected. Blade story

BINGO! Mr. Stroh has been incredibly generous to our university both academics and athletics. But that is not the point, to me. He gave the university a large gift to put towards a need on this campus. You don't turn down those sorts of gifts. The fact that he's donated plenty to the academic side as well is just gravy.

Anderson Arena is antiquated and needs replaced. That is a fact that has been backed up by countless "feasibility" studies over the past 5 or so years. We have a group of donors that have ponied up to give us a large percentage of the funding to go forward with replacing it. It would be absolutely foolish to turn down their money because the remainder of the funding is going to cost the students a little bit.

[Peregrinner]

Understandable, but I think the point a lot of people are missing (although I'm not saying you are) is that the Stroh family has donated quite a bit to academics and other more general use facilities, which is why I get so sensitive about people disrespecting them or their donation.

That's the point that needs to be underlined, bolded and italicized every chance it can get. A very generous man who not only served as a trustee, but built generations of one of the most loyal Falcon families out there despite not even attending the school himself decided to put his support behind what he viewed as a need for the university. That's on top of all the other academic support and donations he and his family have made.

Anyone that wants to speak down toward that deserves a steel-toed boot.

As for Tech's advocating the devil... I don't care if Paul Olscamp wants to donate millions to build a better curling sheet. If the generosity is there, who is the university to turn it down?

Besides, it's not like the academic side is being neglected. Blade story

BINGO! Mr. Stroh has been incredibly generous to our university both academics and athletics. But that is not the point, to me. He gave the university a large gift to put towards a need on this campus. You don't turn down those sorts of gifts. The fact that he's donated plenty to the academic side as well is just gravy.

Anderson Arena is antiquated and needs replaced. That is a fact that has been backed up by countless "feasibility" studies over the past 5 or so years. We have a group of donors that have ponied up to give us a large percentage of the funding to go forward with replacing it. It would be absolutely foolish to turn down their money because the remainder of the funding is going to cost the students a little bit.

Another thing that keeps occurring to me is that even though at this point there's $22 million left or whatever to pay, that doesn't mean the students will be paying all of it. More donors will come forward in the coming years to help foot more of the bill. Greg Christopher is not the kind of AD to just sit back and let it ride. You can bet your ass he's out searching for more donors for that and other projects. That's why he's here.

Even with the full $22 million figure, with a student body estimated at 18,000 paying the fee, it'll be paid off within less than 10 years. (Not the 30-50-100 years that our squeaky wheel friend would like everyone to believe).

[TG1996]

Fun math: The student fee for the arena, for a four-year student paying $60 each semester, is .003% of the Stroh family's donation.


That's the beauty of it. It's fractions of a cent. Normally, they just get rounded off, but what this program does is puts that remainder into an account.

[Tech83]

As for Tech's advocating the devil... I don't care if Paul Olscamp wants to donate millions to build a better curling sheet. If the generosity is there, who is the university to turn it down?

Exactly.... a new facility to replace AA is on the Gift List (or Bridal Registry - whatever you want to call it). The Stroh family decided they wanted to help buy a toaster and not a place-setting of china. You accept the gift and be thankful.

There are tons of things the University (any university needs). Some people buy books for the library, others buy meals for less fortunate students, others buy basketball arenas. Hell - some people donate their entire Star Trek collection. And yes - I am thankful for Ms. Wakefield's generous gift. (No sarcasm)

Anyone in for helping purchase a copy of "The Communist Manifestol" for BO.

[Peregrinner]

Anyone in for helping purchase a copy of "The Communist Manifestool" for BO.

Fixed.

[It's the Journey...]

And now we are on the other side of the coin. Why the hell isn't USG or the University out shouting from the rooftops to correct all of the misinformation that is out there?? There have been many ways for students to have their voices heard but they remained silent until now. Ask those protesting why they chose to be silent. Take out a full page ad in the BGNEWS and set the record straight. USG has a very public voice on campus but often they have no clue how to use it. This opposition is so full of crap it needs to be put down like a rabid dog. Why is USG and BGSU not doing that in every way possible??

[bgsufalcon24]

And now we are on the other side of the coin. Why the hell isn't USG or the University out shouting from the rooftops to correct all of the misinformation that is out there?? There have been many ways for students to have their voices heard but they remained silent until now. Ask those protesting why they chose to be silent. Take out a full page ad in the BGNEWS and set the record straight. USG has a very public voice on campus but often they have no clue how to use it. This opposition is so full of crap it needs to be put down like a rabid dog. Why is USG and BGSU not doing that in every way possible??

Because then the opposition will cry that BGSU is anti-free speech, and they'll probably bring up the recent facebook outage as damning corroborating evidence.

[redskins4ever]

Fun math: The student fee for the arena, for a four-year student paying $60 each semester, is .003% of the Stroh family's donation.


That's the beauty of it. It's fractions of a cent. Normally, they just get rounded off, but what this program does is puts that remainder into an account.

Better Math - Students will pay $2.16M/yr for that building.

[Peregrinner]

Fun math: The student fee for the arena, for a four-year student paying $60 each semester, is .003% of the Stroh family's donation.


That's the beauty of it. It's fractions of a cent. Normally, they just get rounded off, but what this program does is puts that remainder into an account.

Better Math - Students will pay $2.16M/yr for that building.

That is, in the highly unlikely event that no additional donors step forward to help close the gap.

[tiznow]

Fun math: The student fee for the arena, for a four-year student paying $60 each semester, is .003% of the Stroh family's donation.


That's the beauty of it. It's fractions of a cent. Normally, they just get rounded off, but what this program does is puts that remainder into an account.

Nice. Hopefully they do the rounding correctly.

[zete]

The only problem I can forsee with the Stroh Center is where they plan on building it. All this talk about student fees will come and go, just as it did when they built the Rec Center. BUT, I still don't understand why it isn't going to stand closer to the main part of campus. Say, near the Rec Center and indoor football facility. The decision to build it adjacent to the football stadum will come back to bite them hard on the ass. It's way too far out and students, not all of them, but many will not make the trek on any given BG winter's night - that's the deal.

[FalconTurf]

The only problem I can forsee with the Stroh Center is where they plan on building it. All this talk about student fees will come and go, just as it did when they built the Rec Center. BUT, I still don't understand why it isn't going to stand closer to the main part of campus. Say, near the Rec Center and indoor football facility. The decision to build it adjacent to the football stadum will come back to bite them hard on the ass. It's way too far out and students, not all of them, but many will not make the trek on any given BG winter's night - that's the deal.

The majority of student housing on-campus is along the southern edge of campus with a large amount of off campus housing further south. Would a facility on the north side of campus be more popular?

Most students have cars and the bus service on campus allows everyone who really wants to attend to attend events all the way out there.

President Olscamp was correct - and that walking problem still exists today.

[aaronBG10]

Many of the people supporting and promoting the referendum did so with half-truths or sometimes outright lies. One particular member of the petition group, someone any BGSU women's basketball fan knows quite well, was telling a news reporter that the Stroh fee "could be in place for 30, 50, even 100 years. They may never take it off once they get it." That's a problem. If they had done research and promoted with facts, that would have been great, but they didn't, they lied to people to get them to sign.

hahaha "Rich C Money, doin it for the hunnies" was walking around the union on Tuesday blowing smoke up people's asses. In observing this, I was amazed at how an individual with 0 background information or prior knowledge of the situation can listen to a loud mouth for a few minutes and formulate an opinion. People were literally clueless and then after his "talk" they were ready to sign the petition.

Democracy is great, except when uneducated and over-trusting individuals make up a majority of the vote!

[FalconTurf]

So this group of "activists" is on the 30, 40 and 50 year graduation plans. I guess they have a point if they're going to pay $60 / semester for that long it could get costly.

[Falcon Fanatic]

I remember when the student rec center was built. They tacked on a nice chunk of change to our student fees. I wasn't happy about it, as were many other students, but nothing was done, and no one protested that I can remember. My point is that this isn't the first time the U has upped student fees to off set the cost of a new building on campus that not everyone used. I hardly EVER used the rec, but paid the fees for it. And eventually, I felt that the new student rec center was a good idea for the campus. I hope a middle ground can be found on the current issue, as the Stroh Center needs to be built (.....as much as the ice arena needs fixed up.....but that's another i$$ue!! )