Disappointing Suspension

moneymaker02 · Post by **moneymaker02** » Sun Apr 12, 2009 2:30 pm

I liked the way Ream played the game but the guy was a piece of work off the field. Always walkin around like a badass that couldnt be touched. Well he got touched and as I was told to always look at the negative with the positive, hopefully this will be the chance for a young guy to step up and prove himself worthy.

1987alum · Post by **1987alum** » Mon Apr 13, 2009 8:19 am

I only had a few interactions with Michael, but they were always exceptionally positive. During last summer's football camp, he was incredible with the kids - affable, etc.

But rules are rules and playing college football - especially as a scholarship player - is a privilege.

This gets added to a growing list of cautionary tales for my own kids.

hammb · Post by **hammb** » Mon Apr 13, 2009 8:35 am

cowboyjoe wrote:I could be wrong but Meyer didn't drive off his best defensive player. Making a statement is one thing...doing something crazy is another. Just like Jimmy Johnson used to say when he was head coach of the Cowboys. "Aikman falls asleep in a team meeting, I wake him up. One of my rookies falls asleep in a team meeting...I release him." I hope he proves me wrong but it's tough to accept any actions from a coach that was in charge of an offense that scored 10 points at home against an absolutely awful Wyoming team last year. We scored over 40 on them with our "quarterback draws" and "receiver screens."

You, sir, are insane.

I know you're in love with Greggy-weggy, but good god man, now you seem to condone a player flunking a drug test? A player that from some accounts has failed multiple drug tests in the past? I thought he was a quality player on the field and a guy that we could really use, but how you can even come close to the suggestion he should still be a part of this team is beyond me.

Urban ran off a LOT of kids. In the neighborhood of 20-25, as I recall. If people cannot buy into the team concept you don't want them around and I don't care how talented they are.

Bottom line is that your boy put this program into this mess, and now Dave Clawson is given the task of fixing it. It should never have gotten to the point where a kid could fail 3 drug tests before he is gone, that's not how you build a team. It should not have gotten to the point where credit card fraud only costs you a game or two. I'm sorry, but your boy may have been a great X's & O's guy but he was as clueless about team building as any coach I've ever witnessed. Coach Clawson has proven at two stops that he knows what it takes to build a team and win. I'm confident that he'll do it here in a 3rd stop.

I know you find it tough to believe, but coach Brandon was not god's gift to football, and Coach Clawson may very well not be the devil.

Dayons_Den · Post by **Dayons_Den** » Mon Apr 13, 2009 9:00 am

Just for argument's sake, I believe that Urban Meyer did in fact run his best offensive player off. Didn't Robert Redd enroll at Louisville for a brief period right after Meyer arrived?

NWLB · Post by **NWLB** » Mon Apr 13, 2009 9:36 am

Flipper wrote:
cowboyjoe wrote:This may be why Tennessee's offense was almost dead last in Division 1 last year.
Why are you being such a douche towards Coach Clawson? He didn't fire Gregg Brandon. Greg Christopher fired Gregg Brandon...hell, you could argue that GB fired himself by letting a MAC Championship quality team blow so many games in the 4th qtr... whatever the case, sniping at Coach CLawson won't bring Brandon back...

Let it go....

He can't help it, his medical insurance won't cover the surgery to remove his lips from GB's arse.

h2oville rocket · Post by **h2oville rocket** » Mon Apr 13, 2009 10:20 am

Dayons_Den wrote:Just for argument's sake, I believe that Urban Meyer did in fact run his best offensive player off. Didn't Robert Redd enroll at Louisville for a brief period right after Meyer arrived?

Yep, he spent his seventh year of eligibility at Louisville, thus eclipsing Wasean Tate's record number of year's of eligibility. Came back for years 8-10 at BG I believe.

Tswam · Post by **Tswam** » Mon Apr 13, 2009 1:39 pm

Dayons_Den wrote:Just for argument's sake, I believe that Urban Meyer did in fact run his best offensive player off. Didn't Robert Redd enroll at Louisville for a brief period right after Meyer arrived?

Redd left while Blackney was in charge and ended up missing the 2000 season. He played his final two seasons ('01 & '02) under Urban.

I don't recall Urban "running off" any key players.

Warthog · Post by **Warthog** » Mon Apr 13, 2009 3:27 pm

Urban absolutely ran players out. First thing he did was rid the team of 'soft' players. If you weren't willing to work, you were off the team. I remember it being 20-30 players leaving the program.

hammb · Post by **hammb** » Mon Apr 13, 2009 3:40 pm

Warthog wrote:Urban absolutely ran players out. First thing he did was rid the team of 'soft' players. If you weren't willing to work, you were off the team. I remember it being 20-30 players leaving the program.

Yes it is mentioned in the BG Boys chapter of his biography. I'm pretty sure it was a little over 20 players that left the program. We had under 60 scholarship players his first year I believe.

Nobody remembers them because the team was so bad in '00 that there weren't any "Key" players to worry about losing. Aaron Alexander is one kid that left that had a world of talent and could have been very valuable in that spread offense, but he wasn't willing to put the work in. Last time I talked to him was '03 at the Purdue game and it was a decision he was still regretting at that time.

BGDrew · Post by **BGDrew** » Mon Apr 13, 2009 5:43 pm

Hm...the question now becomes what drug was in his system? The NCAA only tests for performance enhancing drugs. It's up to individual schools to test for other illicit drugs.

Now, for argument's sake let's say he was smoking pot. Once you smoke 1 joint it then takes 1 month to be completely clean from your body. Chances are the guys were told they were going to be tested either randomly or a few days before. There's no way for any substance like that to be out of his body by then.

moneymaker02 · Post by **moneymaker02** » Mon Apr 13, 2009 6:03 pm

If it was a urine test, you can use masking agents and clean your system out in less than a week if you know the test is coming. Nick Diaz, an mma fighter is open about his pot use and says he drinks 10lbs of water and then sweats out 10lbs the week before a fight as well as use the herbal masking agents. Its really not that hard to fool a urine test.

Flipper · Post by **Flipper** » Mon Apr 13, 2009 6:18 pm

Then Diaz must be an idiot because he had the highest profile win of his career..a win over Takanori GOmi at Pride 33... overturned by the Nevada State Athletic commission because he failed a drug test for pot.

BGDrew · Post by **BGDrew** » Mon Apr 13, 2009 6:36 pm

moneymaker02 wrote:If it was a urine test, you can use masking agents and clean your system out in less than a week if you know the test is coming. Nick Diaz, an mma fighter is open about his pot use and says he drinks 10lbs of water and then sweats out 10lbs the week before a fight as well as use the herbal masking agents. Its really not that hard to fool a urine test.

Urban legend. When pot breaks down it gets stored in your fat. It takes roughly one month for that fat to flush out. Now, let's say he's a habitual user; you're talking closer to 6 months.

FightingIrish Falcon · Mon Apr 13, 2009 7:55 pm

Hate to bring bad news but as a BG student I have seen ream and several other bg football players take part in less then desirable behavior. Just go out to the bars in BG one weekend.

moneymaker02 · Post by **moneymaker02** » Mon Apr 13, 2009 9:50 pm

BGDrew wrote:
moneymaker02 wrote:If it was a urine test, you can use masking agents and clean your system out in less than a week if you know the test is coming. Nick Diaz, an mma fighter is open about his pot use and says he drinks 10lbs of water and then sweats out 10lbs the week before a fight as well as use the herbal masking agents. Its really not that hard to fool a urine test.
Urban legend. When pot breaks down it gets stored in your fat. It takes roughly one month for that fat to flush out. Now, let's say he's a habitual user; you're talking closer to 6 months.

If it's a blood test you are correct. Aside from diaz, I personally know people that do that and don't get caught.