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redskins4ever wrote:
tekekini wrote:Third? Who were the other 2? Sounds like you are making things up this why you sound childish and ignorant with your only Ohio state does wrong everyone else is perfect attitude. It's always someone else fault with you isn't it? Everyone has the same mission statement and I am glad you care so much about Osu's to look it up and post it for us. If you think this only happens at Osu then you are blind or selective reading/hearing/comprehension because you act like it never happens anywhere else. You act like like it's only a big deal because it is osu. That's a double standard. I am sure it's in a mission statement that members of the university staff will act responsibly but that didn't stop a Miami Ohio coach from punching fans in the face.

The worst thing about that is the coaches are suppsed to be the role models for their players.

When did I say any of it was acceptable? I said it is impossible for a coach to babysit over 85 kids who are on their own for the first time in their lives.

You don't have 85 kids and I garuntee you are not a perfect parent either. I garuntee your kids have done illegal things that you don't know about if they are over 16. Put youself in the coaches shoes. Could you do better? You are lying if you think you can have a team where no one gets in trouble!

The school is not the kids parents so don't blame them that's a bs cop out just to make a bogus point. The kids are who they are and the coaches aren't allowed to have enough time to really get to know them.

If anything you should congratulate tressel on how well he turns the bad ones around. He did wonders with troy smith.

On a final note it really shows your maturity level to quote me and change the words that I actually said into your own.

Loser

You stink of jealousy it's frickin ridiculous. Could you care anymore about Ohio state? You can't even go one day without talkin about them. Come out of the closet. You don't need to be a closet buckeye fan anymore.
1) I may be a graduate of OSU - but I never want to be lumped in to the group of knuckle draggers such as yourself.

You want some arrests?

http://www.cleveland.com/osu/index.ssf/ ... linem.html (2 Current Players)

Alex Boone seemed to have learned nothing under JT... nor did Donte Whitner... or for that matter Santonio Holmes seems to like to smoke the reefer.

I don't care what happens at Texas, Florida, or any other program because those programs aren't shoved down my throat as the greatest thing since the creation of the Ipod. The fact that you point to other programs, and saying that this is common behavior, implies that its acceptable.

18 yearsold are not kids, they are men, they are men when they are given money to attend school and play football. They are men when they make their decisions, and as a country we need to stop treating them as children. We need real penalties and consequences for actions.

Do you know how they discipline buckeye football players? I do. They have to get on the phone with JT in the office and call mom & dad, to tell them that there are no football tickets for them and their family members for an up coming game. They get benched for a quarter or two depending on how important you are. There is more leeway the more talented the player. And this comes from the head of the athletic department.

If there were isolated incidents, then no big deal, but there is obviously something flawed with the recruiting and discipline process when your "kids" continue to make the same mistake time and again and other players don't learn from others mistakes.

Mission statements are great, but stand for nothing, like your coach, when you lack the spine to actually follow through with real consequences for being a dumba$$.

Tiki Torch - you should be embarrassed every time your players f up. You should be embarrassed that you support that program and coach. Obviously it will take a rape or vehicular manslaughter before you take off the scarlet and gray for a day or two and realize that there are problems.

I'd expect more from you, but your constant passing of the buck, long list of excuses shows that you lack the mental fortitude to have integrity, morals, and ethics. I am sure this is serving you and your family well.

Lawyers are really garbage men in disguise as they clean up your mess. If you have enough money, your mess will always be taken care of. Do you have enough money?

LOL

You are so blind you fail to find all of the facts! Idiot!

Absolutely fu**ing pathetic you are.

The only two examples you can give me are two kids whose charges were dropped because they had a TOBACCO PIPE and only TOBACCO was found? The were only arrested on suspicion of drug paraphernalia because the cops ASSUMED (as stated earlier, the mother of all f**k ups) that they were smoking pot.

You have just lost all credibility.

I have said this a million fu**ing times now and I will say it again JT can only do so much just like you can only do so much as a parent. JT deals with a lot of kids every year.

And I never once said (or used as an excuse) that it happens everywhere else so it is acceptable here. I said that because you were singling out OSU and it wasn't fair. You missed the point even though I spelled it out for you in that way word for word in a previous post.

You can't read, you can't comprehend what you thought you read, you must have went to Kent State or Toledo.


Santonio Holmes has been out of OSU (where he never got in trouble) for several years and has the money and other influences in his life. He is a former buckeye but how can THIS one be JT's fault? It is ridiculous to pin that on JT when he has no influence on the kid anymore.


Don't take your failure as a parent out on OSU. Why does OSU have to be perfect and everyone else you "don't care about"? Shouldn't they all be held to higher standards? If your answer is yes then quit singling OSU out and look at your own pissant school and the rest of them. They are all trying to hide something, they all have at least a few kids smoking pot, drinking and driving or assaulting someone. There is no way to make all of those players behave like perfect angels. It is impossible. You are dealing with too many individuals.

Doesn't mean it is right or OK that some have legal issues but it is not right to only single one school out and act like it is the only place that it happens.

But your mind isn't going to change. Your a closed minded person fueled by hate so you fail to reason.

Go on with your pathetic life.

Your two examples aren't even examples so you have lost this argument.

JT is well respected across the nation and his players are too.

Good day.


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Here is the proof that you are a complete idiot and a failure at research:

Mike Adams charges dropped:

http://www.clevelandleader.com/node/9179

Franklin County Court dropped a misdemeanor charge of possession of drug paraphernalia against Ohio State University offensive lineman Mike Adams. Adams was fined for running a stop sign.

Adams' attorney, Garth Cox, said that a pipe found in Adams' car during a traffic stop on January 14 is used for smoking tobacco, not any kind of illegal drugs. Adams voluntarily agreed to undergo drug testing. The results came back negative, so police agreed to drop the case.

A spokesman for OSU said that Buckeyes' head football coach Jim Tressel is not expected to comment on the matter.




J.B. Shuagrts charges dropped:

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3965090

Ohio State freshman offensive lineman J.B. Shugarts had a possession of drug paraphernalia charge dropped Monday in Franklin County Municipal Court in Columbus.

Shugarts and teammate Mike Adams faced the charge following a Jan. 14 traffic stop during which a pipe was found in their car. Lab tests on the pipe showed no trace of drugs and Garth Cox, the attorney representing both players, said Shugarts and Adams voluntarily took a drug test and passed.

The charge against Adams was dismissed last week. Shugarts' case had been continued from Wednesday.

Adams, who drove the car, had to pay a traffic fine for running a stop light, while Shugarts faces no additional penalties.

Both players are expected to compete for starting jobs along the offensive line when Ohio State opens spring drills April 2.



Why don't you put forth some of your brilliant research into why you can't fact find properly. I am sure they offer some beginner research classes at your local community college if you need them.
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tekekini wrote: You are making one sided assumptions and assumptions are the mother of all f**k ups.
Real mature.
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MarkL wrote:
tekekini wrote: You are making one sided assumptions and assumptions are the mother of all f**k ups.
Real mature.
It is the truth. No one said you had to like it.

ASSume all you want to I don't care. You are the one who will look like a fool like your friend redskins4never, who assumed OSU had two players arrested but didn't look into all of the facts.
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tekekini wrote:
MarkL wrote:
tekekini wrote: You are making one sided assumptions and assumptions are the mother of all f**k ups.
Real mature.
It is the truth. No one said you had to like it.

ASSume all you want to I don't care. You are the one who will look like a fool like your friend redskins4never, who assumed OSU had two players arrested but didn't look into all of the facts.
I never said he's a friend. You're assuming things. I have no idea of who he is. I didn't assume anything. Let's review ...
I posted this:
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tekekini wrote:
If Tressell only cared about winning then explain why Clarrett never saw the field again when his allegations (which proved to be false) were brought up? he suspended him for an entire season and nothing was even proven.
Because NCAA investigations looked like a possibility.
tekekini wrote: Why did Troy Smith miss the alamo bowl for taking $500 and paying it back if Tressell only cared about winning?
Same as above.
You responded with this:
tekekini wrote: You are making one sided assumptions and assumptions are the mother of all f**k ups.

He could have been reinstated but he still sat the entire season.

Also there would not have been any punishment from NCAA for 500 bucks. That was all tressel dishing out punishment for wrong doing. The NCAA won't punish USC for bush family getting benefits then they won't punish anyone over 500 dollars. They wouldn't even look at it
1. Did I assume anything? No, just laid out the scenarios of those years ago.
2. Did I say anything that deemed me a mother of all f**k ups? No.
3. Did I call you anything rude that should incite such a reply? No.

So ... I stand by my comment:
MarkL wrote: Real mature.
And just for some insight:
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MarkL wrote:
tekekini wrote:
MarkL wrote:
tekekini wrote: You are making one sided assumptions and assumptions are the mother of all f**k ups.
Real mature.
It is the truth. No one said you had to like it.

ASSume all you want to I don't care. You are the one who will look like a fool like your friend redskins4never, who assumed OSU had two players arrested but didn't look into all of the facts.
I never said he's a friend. You're assuming things. I have no idea of who he is. I didn't assume anything. Let's review ...
I posted this:
MarkL wrote:
tekekini wrote:
If Tressell only cared about winning then explain why Clarrett never saw the field again when his allegations (which proved to be false) were brought up? he suspended him for an entire season and nothing was even proven.
Because NCAA investigations looked like a possibility.
tekekini wrote: Why did Troy Smith miss the alamo bowl for taking $500 and paying it back if Tressell only cared about winning?
Same as above.
You responded with this:
tekekini wrote: You are making one sided assumptions and assumptions are the mother of all f**k ups.

He could have been reinstated but he still sat the entire season.

Also there would not have been any punishment from NCAA for 500 bucks. That was all tressel dishing out punishment for wrong doing. The NCAA won't punish USC for bush family getting benefits then they won't punish anyone over 500 dollars. They wouldn't even look at it
1. Did I assume anything? No, just laid out the scenarios of those years ago.
2. Did I say anything that deemed me a mother of all f**k ups? No.
3. Did I call you anything rude that should incite such a reply? No.

So ... I stand by my comment:
MarkL wrote: Real mature.
And just for some insight:
Registration Agreement Terms wrote: You agree not to post any abusive, obscene, vulgar, slanderous, hateful, threatening, sexually-oriented or any other material that may violate any applicable laws. Doing so may lead to you being immediately and permanently banned (and your service provider being informed).
another cry baby whose panties are in a bunch because they can't comprehend what they read.

All I said about you was that you made assumptions.

assumptions are the mother of all f**k ups...not you can you read?


are you the Taliban and wish to ban free speech? The service provider would laugh at you because there are no laws in regards to cuss words on a website. There are millions of websites in the world with cuss words. i am not the only ony to use the F word on this site.

I could say that some of the scantily clad women that i have seen in a few pics on here are sexually oriented material...but it doesn't mean they are illegal.

The best you could do is ban me..

If that is what grant would like to do then go for it. Doesn't bother me but Grant has thus far refused to do so. No matter how many times people have asked him to he refuses.


don't take things so personal. responses like yours are what is going to make it personal.

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just out of curiosity tek,

will you ever post anything intelligent that adds to a discussion instead of just a he said she said pissing match?

I used to like the Buckeyes, but it's fans and people like you that have made it clear to me why I shouldn't and also why most of the country absolutely despises AN Ohio State University and their bandwagon, I mean fans.
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vwfalcon wrote:just out of curiosity tek,

will you ever post anything intelligent that adds to a discussion instead of just a he said she said pissing match?

I used to like the Buckeyes, but it's fans and people like you that have made it clear to me why I shouldn't and also why most of the country absolutely despises AN Ohio State University and their bandwagon, I mean fans.
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vwfalcon wrote:just out of curiosity tek,

will you ever post anything intelligent that adds to a discussion instead of just a he said she said pissing match?

I used to like the Buckeyes, but it's fans and people like you that have made it clear to me why I shouldn't and also why most of the country absolutely despises AN Ohio State University and their bandwagon, I mean fans.
I am pretty sure that most of the country doesn't even really givea rats ass. I think you hate Ohio State and Big Ten country hates Ohio State but outside of that no one really cares. Only the jealous types..you know, those with shitty teams who wish they could make it to the BCS or the national title every year like we do. Most of your normal level headed fans dont hate anyone.

You are not one of those people, obviously. It may seem like I hate others but I don't. I just like to pick at people. I don't even hate Michigan...I mean how could I? It's an easy win every year.

To each their own.

Carry on.
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Ok, when I say most of the country, I mean the schools that have played them, like Texas, USC, Florida... you know all the teams that have gotten a, what's that called...I can't seem to remember... oh yeah, now I remember... a VICTORY against OSU. Those schools didn't choke in the big game. I guess hate isn't the correct word to use... I guess ANNOYED would be better.

As far as being jealous about making it to the BCS or national title game every year... go ahead and do that and prove that the big 10 struggles to compete with the other BCS conferences... OSU plays in a conference that is quickly becoming a joke when it comes to big games. It is a shame that it took backing into the title game two years ago, couldn't even take care of business on their own, had to hope that Pitt pulled off an upset and Missouri lost in the Big 12 title game... Ya, I guess getting to the title that way is something to be proud about.

I can grasp the fact that BGSU will never get a shot to play for the title, just like Utah and Boise State didn't either, until the system changes. I would almost be bold enough to say that Utah would of done the same thing to OSU this past season that they did to Alabama.

As far as being level headed, I am extremely level headed. As I stated earlier, using the word hate or a form of it wasn't getting across the point that I intended it to, I should have used the word annoy. So to rephrase what I said previously:

"I used to like the Buckeyes, but it is fans and people like you that have made it clear to me why I shouldn't and also why most of the country is absolutely annoyed with AN Ohio State University and their bandwagon, I mean fans."

Now for your statement about Michigan, don't go assuming that I'm a Michigan fan because I'm not, but remember that 13 year span that took place prior to Coach T arriving in town... I think the record was 2-10-1. Michigan was able to say the exact same thing about OSU not too long ago. It happens in cycles, and it will happen again.

So to you good sir/ma'am

don't carry on...

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LOL again my original response still applies.

nobody outside of big ten coountry is annoyed by OSU or their fans. Outside of big ten country they don't have to even deal with many osu fans so what is there to be annoyed about?

You could say that anyone with 1 loss and plays in the championship game "backed" their way in because a lot of other teams had to lose before they could get there so that is nota valid point. You are just angry that OSU has made it so many times this decade. You can't win the championship every time you get there, 1-2 aint so bad. There are 117 other teams who would take that so yes, I will be proud of it.


You say that OSU beating michigan will turn around because it is cyclical...well the Big Ten will soon be better than the SEC because it is cyclical. 4 years ago the Big Twelve was a joke and look where they are now.

Enjoy it now because the big ten is on a rebound. You have to hit a rock bottom first and I would say last year 1-6 in bowls is it. Can't blame the buckeyes for the rest of the conference. The Bucks went toe to toe with Texas who should have been in the title game.


You would almost be bold enough to say Utah would have beat OSU like they did Alabama? Grow some balls and just say it man...but I would say in return that if my aunt had nuts she would be my uncle OR that OSU was one missed tackle away from beating Texas last year (if you want to play that game)...so again your point is worthless. Shoulda woulda coulda doesn't do anything for anybody.


You may be annoyed with some OSU fans but that is you and you live/lived in the middle of Buckeye country. so how exactly would you know what the rest of the country thinks. The rest of the country only sees the Buckeyes once or twice in their lifetime if that. They simply have very little interactions with the Buckeyes or their fans.

If they are annoyed by the success of the team then it again just points to jealousy.

People hate the cowboys because of their historic and continued successes..same with the yankees, redsox, red wings, lakers etc.

I will have a good day.

Everyday that I get to wake up a Buckeye is a good day. Therefore every day is a good day.

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well i can speak on behalf of the rest of the country. ive lived in 11 states, and before 2002, annoying osu fans were scarce. but the fact is that osu is one of the largest schools in the country and every young professional leaving the state to branch out else where, they are going to have fans everywhere. but since tressell got there, bandwagon ohio transplants across the country unite when they think their team is any good.
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moneymaker02 wrote:well i can speak on behalf of the rest of the country. ive lived in 11 states, and before 2002, annoying osu fans were scarce. but the fact is that osu is one of the largest schools in the country and every young professional leaving the state to branch out else where, they are going to have fans everywhere. but since tressell got there, bandwagon ohio transplants across the country unite when they think their team is any good.
Exactly. I haven't lived in 11 states, but I have visited and/or have friends in several other states, and I know that there are pretty big pockets of OSU fans that get together at local sports bars decked out in their Buckeye gear to watch games. That happens with lots of teams, of course, but OSU has steadily been gaining a reputation for being particularly well-supported abroad. And the annoying/superiority factor isn't unique to Buckeye fans in Ohio or even in Big Ten country. The fact is, there are a lot of OSU fans around the country, and enough of them are loudmouths with overinflated opinions of their team to where I know that we non-Buckeye fans in Ohio are not the only ones who hold the "OSU has some annoying fans" opinion.
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Tek I am also a member of the US Army and have been deployed with a unit from MA, while overseas I met people from all over the country, and many of the soldiers that I interacted with weren't very fond of the Buckeyes as well.

So take off the blinders and realize that it is not just Big 10 country that get annoyed. Sports writers all across the nation have also slightly taken this stance.

I don't think jealousy is the word to use, I think the reason most are annoyed is due to the fact that the Buckeye fans always claim the team is better than it truly is.

Oh and can't win the championship every time you get there... I believe that LSU and Florida have both proven that theory incorrect as both times they have been there, they have won the title.

I wish there was a way to create a national poll that the whole country could chime in on as to the most annoying fanbase in college football with the option to vote for any of the 117 FBS schools

I think OSU would be fairly high on the list

One thing is clear though, we will just have to agree to disagree on the issue
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tekekini wrote:Everyday that I get to wake up a Buckeye is a good day. Therefore every day is a good day.

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But in your lifetime you have, and always will, wake up more days as a Falcon than a Buckeye. Every day for the rest of your life, and a lot of days bfore you werea Buckeye, you were a Falcon. Can't stop it. How can you be sure which accounts for it being a good day? :twisted:
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