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Is the Anti Trust hearings against the BCS a joke?

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tek said...
"pretty good F'n deal for you I would say so quit bitching. It isn't all that unfair now is it?"

Pretty good deal for you, as well, since you're a BG alum (assuming you got your degree). Too bad the name 'Falconboy' is already taken :cry:
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If Ohio State started the season and it was ruled that they did not get enough television coverage so they were not allowed to win the National Championship you would say that was fair?
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Globetrotter wrote:If Ohio State started the season and it was ruled that they did not get enough television coverage so they were not allowed to win the National Championship you would say that was fair?
It's not about television coverage, nearly every game is already on TV, it's about playing the rigors of a SEC or Big XII schedule vs playing a Mt West or WAC schedule. There's no comparison.
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bgsukid wrote:
Globetrotter wrote:If Ohio State started the season and it was ruled that they did not get enough television coverage so they were not allowed to win the National Championship you would say that was fair?
It's not about television coverage, nearly every game is already on TV, it's about playing the rigors of a SEC or Big XII schedule vs playing a Mt West or WAC schedule. There's no comparison.
How do you know there is no comparison? Those teams play 75% of their out of conference games at home.

I believe Tek mentioned that they should not share in the money because they don't help to get it.
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Globetrotter wrote:
bgsukid wrote:
Globetrotter wrote:If Ohio State started the season and it was ruled that they did not get enough television coverage so they were not allowed to win the National Championship you would say that was fair?
It's not about television coverage, nearly every game is already on TV, it's about playing the rigors of a SEC or Big XII schedule vs playing a Mt West or WAC schedule. There's no comparison.
How do you know there is no comparison? Those teams play 75% of their out of conference games at home.

I believe Tek mentioned that they should not share in the money because they don't help to get it.

No, moron.

I said the system is not as unfair as you think it is because MAC schools benefit from the BCS by receiving money without even having to participate in the BCS. I DID NOT say that they shouldn't get it. I DID say that it is a good deal for you guys so you should just shut the f**k up and take your money.


I say this because if congress were to succeed (which we all know that they did not and Mountain West signed the deal) then we would go back to the old bowl system rather than a playoff and then BG would not get ANY money unless they make a bowl game.

The BCS has brought everyone more money, not just the six auto qualifiers. The BCS even gives money to D1-AA (formely known as).

Without the BCS Boise would have never played in a bowl as big as the Fiesta, Utah would have never played in a bowl as big as the Fiesta or the Sugar Bowl? (can't remember which one they played in this year). Hawaii would have never played in a bowl game outside of the Hawaii bowl without the BCS.

So explain to me how it isn't fair?

Is it because Utah was 12-0 and didn't play for the title? Maybe it is because their own coach didn't even think they were good enough. He voted his own team 5th in the final poll for crying out loud. Utah had a chance but all of the voters didn't think they were quite good enough.

Why do they think that? Because they play a mountain west schedule. They play Air Force, Colorado State, new mexico, San Diego State, UNLV, and Wyoming for christs sake. Are any of those a college football powerhouse?

Didn't think so. They are a far cry from Florida, LSU, Oklahoma, USC, Oregon, Ohio State, Texas, Auburn, Alabama, Michigan (historically), Wisconsin, Penn State, Virginia Tech, Miami (FLA), Florida State.


Maybe next time you should read my post before commenting since I didn't say anything even close to what you imply. I never said that they shouldnt get a piece of the BCS financial pie.

I said YOU should quit bitching about the BCS because it benefits you more than it hurts you. If it goes away you will get nothing.



I suspect that you will still not understand what I am saying. That's understandable. I mean you obviously didn't understand a word Obama said during the campaign.

A lot of people are just now realizing what he meant by all of that BS he spewed on the trail. That is why the approval ratings are sinking faster than BG hockey sinks in the standings every year.
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tekekini wrote:http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...x.html?eref=T1

This anti trust thing is a BS joke to secure votes in the next election but if any of this comes to fruition I agree with what this guy says.

Do you agree?
Orrin Hatch is a Republican from UTAH. He doesn't need any help getting re-elected in a state that for McCain by a 62-35 margin.

Maybe he is building his legend in the state by supporting one of the local state universities, but he's got other motives besides re-election. This isn't Sherrod Brown going gaga over the system if and when Ohio State goes 12-0 and gets shut out of the NC game (which is becoming more and more likely with each BCS bowl loss for the Buckeyes)
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that would only happen if there are three undefeated teams from an auto qualifying conference.


Otherwise...you are dreaming.


But whatever makes you feel better.
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I think the system flat out sucks but it's all about the jack. IF teams like Boise State, Utah, TCU and others can keep the pressure on...and other non BCS schools start moving to that level, something may change. But I won't hold my breath.

So...is there a comparison between playing a MWC or WAC sked and the Big Ten sked these days? Not much...Hell, the Big Ten hasn't been this weak in a long time.

The BCS sucks and needs to be destroyed...
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bgsufalcon24 wrote:if and when Ohio State goes 12-0 and gets shut out of the NC game (which is becoming more and more likely with each BCS bowl loss for the Buckeyes)
That will never, ever happen. The BCS will find a way to get Ohio State into the NC if there was any way it could be considered legitimate. Ohio State has such a huge fan base that putting them in the NC guarantees huge piles of cash for everyone involved. This is the fundamental problem with the BCS for purists such as myself. The BCS Championship puts the teams in that will generate the most revenue, not necessarily the teams that are most deserving
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tekekini wrote:
Globetrotter wrote:
bgsukid wrote:
Globetrotter wrote:
Didn't think so. They are a far cry from Florida, LSU, Oklahoma, USC, Oregon, Ohio State, Texas, Auburn, Alabama, Michigan (historically), Wisconsin, Penn State, Virginia Tech, Miami (FLA), Florida State.

Thanks for putting Florida State in there but couldnt you have put them ahead of miami in that list? :wink:
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kmurphums1 wrote:
bgsufalcon24 wrote:if and when Ohio State goes 12-0 and gets shut out of the NC game (which is becoming more and more likely with each BCS bowl loss for the Buckeyes)
That will never, ever happen. The BCS will find a way to get Ohio State into the NC if there was any way it could be considered legitimate. Ohio State has such a huge fan base that putting them in the NC guarantees huge piles of cash for everyone involved. This is the fundamental problem with the BCS for purists such as myself. The BCS Championship puts the teams in that will generate the most revenue, not necessarily the teams that are most deserving
You have to admit, right now, if there's ever a situation where 2 other BCS teams also finish undefeated, OSU is not going to the NC game because of their performances in 2006 and 2007. Those other 2 teams are going to get the shot, especially if they are teams from the Big XII or SEC. Now if the Buckeyes are one of only 2 undefeateds, or the only one, or if they are ahead of undefeateds from outside the BCS, they're in for sure. I'm just saying don't be surprised if for example, Georgia and Missouri finish unbeaten next year. They'd get the shot over OSU because of OSU's maligned status on the national stage and because of the overall strength of the SEC/Big XII.

Of course, I'd say that Oklahoma is about done with NC chances too. They blow in big games worse than OSU.
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bgsufalcon24 wrote:
kmurphums1 wrote:
bgsufalcon24 wrote:if and when Ohio State goes 12-0 and gets shut out of the NC game (which is becoming more and more likely with each BCS bowl loss for the Buckeyes)
That will never, ever happen. The BCS will find a way to get Ohio State into the NC if there was any way it could be considered legitimate. Ohio State has such a huge fan base that putting them in the NC guarantees huge piles of cash for everyone involved. This is the fundamental problem with the BCS for purists such as myself. The BCS Championship puts the teams in that will generate the most revenue, not necessarily the teams that are most deserving
You have to admit, right now, if there's ever a situation where 2 other BCS teams also finish undefeated, OSU is not going to the NC game because of their performances in 2006 and 2007. Those other 2 teams are going to get the shot, especially if they are teams from the Big XII or SEC. Now if the Buckeyes are one of only 2 undefeateds, or the only one, or if they are ahead of undefeateds from outside the BCS, they're in for sure. I'm just saying don't be surprised if for example, Georgia and Missouri finish unbeaten next year. They'd get the shot over OSU because of OSU's maligned status on the national stage and because of the overall strength of the SEC/Big XII.

Of course, I'd say that Oklahoma is about done with NC chances too. They blow in big games worse than OSU.
Thanks for repeating exactly what I said. Glad you agree with me.
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Falconfreak90 wrote:I think the system flat out sucks but it's all about the jack. IF teams like Boise State, Utah, TCU and others can keep the pressure on...and other non BCS schools start moving to that level, something may change. But I won't hold my breath.

So...is there a comparison between playing a MWC or WAC sked and the Big Ten sked these days? Not much...Hell, the Big Ten hasn't been this weak in a long time.

The BCS sucks and needs to be destroyed...

Even if it means going back to the old bowl system? If that happens Utah never plays int he fiesta bowl or the Sugar Bowl.


and yes there is a difference.

Now, if the best 5 teams of the MWC would combine with the 5 best of the WAC then we would be talking about a 7th BCS conference. But when you only have 2 or 3 teams worth anything between the two conferences then both are much more weak than the Big Ten.

Big Ten is getting better and Michigan is still another year away.

Look out for MSU, Iowa, and Michigan next year to pressure PSU and OSU. It is about to get competitive.
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tekekini wrote:
Falconfreak90 wrote:I think the system flat out sucks but it's all about the jack. IF teams like Boise State, Utah, TCU and others can keep the pressure on...and other non BCS schools start moving to that level, something may change. But I won't hold my breath.

So...is there a comparison between playing a MWC or WAC sked and the Big Ten sked these days? Not much...Hell, the Big Ten hasn't been this weak in a long time.

The BCS sucks and needs to be destroyed...

Big Ten is getting better and Michigan is still another year away.

Look out for MSU, Iowa, and Michigan next year to pressure PSU and OSU. It is about to get competitive.
:lol:

The Big Ten isn't even in the top four of college football conf. The SEC, Big 12, ACC and PAC 10 are all better at this time. I'll believe Michigan is back when I see it. Outside Penn State and OSU, there ain't a whole lot to write home about these days with the BiG 10. And yet you talk about how there are only 2 or 3 good teams in the WAC and MWC...yet the same thing applies to the BiG Ten.

But you keep living in your biased world, tiki. Doesn't change the fact the BCS sucks.
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