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He will be a project. Has some good skills and most importantly perhaps for our program, he wont introduce of the court challenges. I think a couple of years with Coach and we will see a solid 2 guard.
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Posted a comment on the blog itself, before I grew a brain and figured there'd be banter on here about him...

I see good athleticism for a player his size. Playing on the ball in the diamond press is where a coach puts his most athletic player. Getting over and making that trap is tough and he closes down good on the defender.

He has a highlight of a pick-pocket playing perimeter D. Again, I've seen a lot of 6'6 guys get blown by trying to play pressing D 22 feet from the rim (I was one of them...lets just say David Lighty got passed me whenever he wanted).

Shows a high IQ. Good backdoor cuts, sets up defenders well to get open.

I know it's a yotube highlight film, but I see him as a more athletic, less polished Scott Thomas.

Great get for BG and Coach Orr.
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BleedOrange wrote:Heh? That kid looks very athletic. Sure, the videos show only the highlights, but it's clear that he's fast and quick off the floor. He has a nice stroke and a scorers mentality.

No need to pretend he is a D1 point guard. He's a 2-3 with court vision. I see him being a contributor as a freshman. However, I suspect that he'll need to reign himself in and become more disciplined.
Can't see the video but I am trying to figure out how a 6'6" guy who gets 25 and 7 can NOT be athletic evn if he plays in a lower division. Crack don't smoke itself and points don't score themselves.
We'll see....he looks very nonathletic to me, he is 6'6 and looks as if he can barely dunk. If you are 6'6 and can shoot it and playing in the equivalent to Div. 4 it would be hard to not average 26.
And shooting doesn't require good hand-eye coordination, a key part of athleticism? How many dunks will a shooting guard get for most schools? Who cares if he dunks? I just hope he sucks as a shooter and loses weight at BG.
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h2oville rocket wrote:
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h2oville rocket wrote:
BleedOrange wrote:Heh? That kid looks very athletic. Sure, the videos show only the highlights, but it's clear that he's fast and quick off the floor. He has a nice stroke and a scorers mentality.

No need to pretend he is a D1 point guard. He's a 2-3 with court vision. I see him being a contributor as a freshman. However, I suspect that he'll need to reign himself in and become more disciplined.
Can't see the video but I am trying to figure out how a 6'6" guy who gets 25 and 7 can NOT be athletic evn if he plays in a lower division. Crack don't smoke itself and points don't score themselves.
We'll see....he looks very nonathletic to me, he is 6'6 and looks as if he can barely dunk. If you are 6'6 and can shoot it and playing in the equivalent to Div. 4 it would be hard to not average 26.
And shooting doesn't require good hand-eye coordination, a key part of athleticism? How many dunks will a shooting guard get for most schools? Who cares if he dunks? I just hope he sucks as a shooter and loses weight at BG.

OK, watched the video of him dunking effortlessly-actually the only shot that gives a reasxonable look at his hops is the still where he's well above the rim. The video makes it pretty hard to tell what he's doing. How anyone can discern a lack (or presence) of athleticism frm that is beyond me.
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Falcon137 wrote: If you are 6'6 and can shoot it and playing in the equivalent to Div. 4 it would be hard to not average 26.

And not to belabor a point but did you play HS ball? :roll:
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h2oville rocket wrote:
Falcon137 wrote: If you are 6'6 and can shoot it and playing in the equivalent to Div. 4 it would be hard to not average 26.

And not to belabor a point but did you play HS ball? :roll:
Yea, what does it matter? He could turn out to be a very nice player, he seems to have a nice skill set for someone 6'6. But, those videos show nothing to me other than he can shoot over a 5'10 guy guarding him. I would be interested in his AAU team and who they are playing more than his high school team.
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Falcon137 wrote:
h2oville rocket wrote:
Falcon137 wrote: If you are 6'6 and can shoot it and playing in the equivalent to Div. 4 it would be hard to not average 26.

And not to belabor a point but did you play HS ball? :roll:
Yea, what does it matter? He could turn out to be a very nice player, he seems to have a nice skill set for someone 6'6. But, those videos show nothing to me other than he can shoot over a 5'10 guy guarding him. I would be interested in his AAU team and who they are playing more than his high school team.

It matters cuz in my experience it matters not what division, or how tall or any of that- scoring 25 a game is tough. I suspect most people who actually played HS ball would agree. That's all. If you played and found it easy, great- but hey- don't look to take me on in one-on-one for money! I'll know better now. :wink:
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h2oville rocket wrote:
Falcon137 wrote:
h2oville rocket wrote:
Falcon137 wrote: If you are 6'6 and can shoot it and playing in the equivalent to Div. 4 it would be hard to not average 26.

And not to belabor a point but did you play HS ball? :roll:
Yea, what does it matter? He could turn out to be a very nice player, he seems to have a nice skill set for someone 6'6. But, those videos show nothing to me other than he can shoot over a 5'10 guy guarding him. I would be interested in his AAU team and who they are playing more than his high school team.

It matters cuz in my experience it matters not what division, or how tall or any of that- scoring 25 a game is tough. I suspect most people who actually played HS ball would agree. That's all. If you played and found it easy, great- but hey- don't look to take me on in one-on-one for money! I'll know better now. :wink:
Listen I understand what you are saying. But I also think you would agree that a good player playing a low division has a much easier time, especially if the other teams in the league don't have D1 talent and judging by those videos it didn't look like they did. I think that's why AAU has become so popular and is maybe more important now than what you do for your school.

Don't play me one on one, that was 30 pounds and 500 beers ago. :D
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Falcon137 wrote:Don't play me one on one, that was 30 pounds and 500 beers ago. :D

Not sure that trumps twenty pounds, five broken ankles, and most importantly forty years. And I was a 5'10" center when I DID play. Not much call for 5'10" centers.
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I would fall in the not very athletic field. He does not show much explosion on the dunks I saw and seems to collect himself more than usual. 25 points a game for a 6-6 guy with any athleticism in a lower division is to be expected. No one is saying he is not a good player, but compare him to a guy on Brookhaven or Princeton. The 4th best player on those teams get fewer shots but have more ability then the best players on division 4 teams.
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Well, anybody who thinks they can tell how athletic this guy is by looking at those ten second clips is either deceiving themselves or has a giant HD monitor with slomo replay and spent waaaaaayyyyy too much time watching dunk sequences go baaaaacccckkk and fooorrrth.

I pray you're right but like I said- unless you scored 25 a game in high school (you didn't) you have no idea how difficult that might be.
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How do you know how much I scored per game in HS? Thats creepy.

BTW, I did have a guy on my team score around 25 but he was not even considered for division 1 schollies.
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Stop.
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Easy for you to say- you probably scored twenty five a game in HS. You and Harr.
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h2oville rocket wrote:Easy for you to say- you probably scored twenty five a game in HS. You and Harr.
It's Haar. ;-) And I still vividly remember the day he returned to practice with Jeff Coyle. Coyle had to duck to get through the doorway to the old gym in Woodville.
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