Pipeline

[duckunder53]

It seems as if Texas has a pipeline for BG teachers, why can't BG turn the tables and take some of the FB players? The answer, there's no reason they can't. Houston is a hotbed for football talent and I don't see BG give much of a presence at all there.

One of the best FB playing high schools in the nation, Galena Park North Shore, recruits BG hard for teachers. In the past four years, they have probably grabbed about 15-20 teachers from BG's program (which is great, by the way). Those teachers have given BG a presence in that district, so hopefully the FB coaches can capitalize on that!

North Shore easily has five Div. 1 prospects per year, with more bubble guys that could play in the MAC. Speed and size guys, they have it!

I've tried e-mailing the coaching staff at no avail, any ideas on how to get BG in the mix here?

[Bleeding Orange]

I would imagine that the major factor in BG not recruiting Texas is money. On top of that, Clawson has stated that he wants to hit the recruiting trail hard in the "State of Bowling Green," that being basically everything within a 4-5 hour radius of BG. Still, I wouldn't see a reason they wouldn't want to explore a special situation similar to the one you bring up. I would continue to E-mail the staff, and I'm sure someone around here knows how to get in touch with them if they are not responsive.

[duckunder53]

Is it against the rules to get "tips" on recruits that may be expensive to travel to? I don't dare talk to the players, I know that could get people in trouble. However, if I'm willing to send tips/stats back to BG, why wouldn't they take the extra help? I have coached varsity FB in NW Ohio, and now I can see why it's tough to get recruited. These guys are absolutely loaded with talent. And so are a lot of the teams they play.

[duckunder53]

Don't get me wrong, I think BG recruiting "the state of Bowling Green" is exactly what they need. Especially for attendance and creating a solid fan base. However, why would you not recruit a hot spot like Houston if you have people there that can give you want you want/need about a player? The school I follow has three guys committed DI (Okie St., Texas, and Houston) and two more guys with big offers (Florida, Alabama, ND, Stanford, etc.). There are also other guys that are big/athletic/fast and could play in the MAC. Last year, this school sent two guys to Fresno, one to Texas, one to Nebraska, one to Ok St., and I think one to Houston, not to mention the few that went to DII schools in Texas. NFL alumni also hail from this school. A Michigan alum, Mercury Hayes, has a child in JH here along with many other studs. There are 7th graders that could be playing varsity at some schools that I've seen play. It's unbelievable! I love it...football heaven!

[Falcon137]

I don't see the point of BG recruiting Texas. BG has done a nice job in the past getting guys from out of state, specifically Florida (Omar and Geter come to mind). I don't mean to sound high and mighty about Ohio high school football but you are not going to find players in Texas that are that much better than ones in Ohio & or Pennsylvania for that matter.

There are players everywhere. Why not recruit South Carolina? That state is loaded with athletes and only has USC and Clemson.

Why land a 2 or 3 star recruit from Dallas if you can land the same type player from Upper Arlington, Centerville, or St. Xavier?

There are more than enough players within 4 or 5 hours to build a consitent winner at BG. 5 hours includes all Cincy, N. Kentucky schools, W. Pennsylvania, N. Indiana, and Michigan.

[Bleeding Orange]

Is it against the rules to get "tips" on recruits that may be expensive to travel to? I don't dare talk to the players, I know that could get people in trouble. However, if I'm willing to send tips/stats back to BG, why wouldn't they take the extra help? I have coached varsity FB in NW Ohio, and now I can see why it's tough to get recruited. These guys are absolutely loaded with talent. And so are a lot of the teams they play.

I'm no expert, but I can tell you ABSOLUTELY DO NOT have any contact any player on behalf of BGSU. If you are in any way a donor to BGSU, you are considered a booster. Heck, your membership and participation at AZZ.com alone could qualify you as a booster, as convoluted as the NCAA guidelines are. The best thing to do is to give a general tip to the coaching staff and to let them, and their compliance staff handle everything else.

[duckunder53]

I don't see the point of BG recruiting Texas. BG has done a nice job in the past getting guys from out of state, specifically Florida (Omar and Geter come to mind). I don't mean to sound high and mighty about Ohio high school football but you are not going to find players in Texas that are that much better than ones in Ohio & or Pennsylvania for that matter.

There are players everywhere. Why not recruit South Carolina? That state is loaded with athletes and only has USC and Clemson.

Why land a 2 or 3 star recruit from Dallas if you can land the same type player from Upper Arlington, Centerville, or St. Xavier?

There are more than enough players within 4 or 5 hours to build a consitent winner at BG. 5 hours includes all Cincy, N. Kentucky schools, W. Pennsylvania, N. Indiana, and Michigan.

I agree that BG needs to load up on local talent. However, I'm telling you the talent that I see here is superior to the talent in Ohio. I'm from Ohio and I've watched many games, coached and played in many games. There are not athletes like this in Ohio. If you can pull a RB or a DL out of the bunch, you've helped your team, no matter who you are.

[footballguy51]

I don't see the point of BG recruiting Texas. BG has done a nice job in the past getting guys from out of state, specifically Florida (Omar and Geter come to mind). I don't mean to sound high and mighty about Ohio high school football but you are not going to find players in Texas that are that much better than ones in Ohio & or Pennsylvania for that matter.

There are players everywhere. Why not recruit South Carolina? That state is loaded with athletes and only has USC and Clemson.

Why land a 2 or 3 star recruit from Dallas if you can land the same type player from Upper Arlington, Centerville, or St. Xavier?

There are more than enough players within 4 or 5 hours to build a consitent winner at BG. 5 hours includes all Cincy, N. Kentucky schools, W. Pennsylvania, N. Indiana, and Michigan.

Recruiting Texas is different than recruiting Ohio, even if we only get the same 2 or 3 star recruits. Why? If we get one this year, then two next year, then five the following year, you start to create a pipeline where the schools there know about BG. The schools these kids normally talk about might start to include a short mention of BGSU. You might get a 4 star recruit whose brother/cousin played at BGSU that considers and attends BGSU.

Each section of the country has a slightly different style of football. Ohio has always been a ground and pound area, but is turning more spread. Out west you have the West Coast Offense. Texas...I'm not sure what they run there, but it's damn good. Florida is where the speed seems to come from. Obviously we should have 75% or more of our team from the "State of Bowling Green", but does it hurt to recruit a few players from Florida and Texas to try and create that niche? With all of those BG alumni down there in Houston, if some of these kids attended BG, and these teachers maybe put up a pennant in their rooms, then BG would get some extra hype in an area that may not even really know of them.

[Flipper]

They tried recruiting Texas a few years ago. Brandon had gotten some positive feedback from HS coaches about how the program looked during our heavy ESPN years, so he sent Studrawa down there to establish some ties....in fact, one of the reasons we ditched Auburn to play Oklahoma in 2004 was to raise our profile out in that area of the country.

It didn't work then...given our budgetary constraints, I'm not sure it's worth devoting the $$ to it now.

[Class of 61]

I'll go back to what I posted on another thread a couple of day ago... If YOU are aware of some talented kids in Texas ( or anywhere else for that matter), email Clawson or the recruiting coordinator with names, size info, GPA or test results if you know them etc. Since you've had prior coaching experience in Ohio, I'd certainly include that as part of your "background" so that the staff knows you're in a position to observe kids objectively.

If you get no response, then, it's BG's problem, not yours...If they choose to bypass certain players, there's usually a reason for it. I follow the recruiting websites a lot, and it always surprises me when I see a certain player being recruited by 6 of more MAC schools and we're not one of them. But, as I said, I'm assuming there's a reason for that, whether it's a "need" factor, GPA or whatever.

[duckunder53]

I'll go back to what I posted on another thread a couple of day ago... If YOU are aware of some talented kids in Texas ( or anywhere else for that matter), email Clawson or the recruiting coordinator with names, size info, GPA or test results if you know them etc. Since you've had prior coaching experience in Ohio, I'd certainly include that as part of your "background" so that the staff knows you're in a position to observe kids objectively.

If you get no response, then, it's BG's problem, not yours...If they choose to bypass certain players, there's usually a reason for it. I follow the recruiting websites a lot, and it always surprises me when I see a certain player being recruited by 6 of more MAC schools and we're not one of them. But, as I said, I'm assuming there's a reason for that, whether it's a "need" factor, GPA or whatever.

I've e-mailed!! I've sent three e-mails since the end of last football season. Two to Brandon and one to the new staff. Last year, I included as much info as I had about the upcoming Jr's and Sr's. I mentioned guys that I thought were guys to take a look at. All of the guys I mentioned have now got DI offers and some have even verballed. Obviously, you're not getting the kid who wants to play at Texas and gets that chance. But some of the other guys would be dynamite for BG. I know I don't matter, but when someone is trying to help it'd be nice to at least acknowledge that. Maybe they've got so little time that there is no time for that stuff...???

[Class of 61]

FWIW, I never got a response from Brandon re: the punter that I mentioned on the other thread either... yes, the kid verballed to Mich. but a "thanks anyway" would've been nice... I know these guys are busy during the season, but they DO have Secretaries who could email us back.... how'd we know the difference?

[falconfan1999]

Conversely, I sent one e-mail to former Coach Brandon with some names of potential recruits and he responded back with the name of the coach who recruits the area and a "If you think a kid can play, send 'em our way"

[Falcon137]

Instead of e-mailing Clawson I would e-mail:

Shannon Morrison
Co-Defensive Coordinator/Secondary

http://www.bgsufalcons.com/sports/2009/ ... h=football" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[duckunder53]

Instead of e-mailing Clawson I would e-mail:

Shannon Morrison
Co-Defensive Coordinator/Secondary

http://www.bgsufalcons.com/sports/2009/ ... h=football" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

This is the person I e-mailed. He recruits Texas according to the website.