My head tells me not to respond to posters like the one above. My HEART tells me to respond. My Heart wins. Also, a VERY smart person said "Never miss an opportunity to back up the players and coaches" So that's what I'm going to do.
My head tells me that people like the poster above have absolutely NO CLUE what they are speaking about. Do you realize just how close this program was to extinction? Do you realize that this program was 48 hours from a death sentence? Do you realize what months of speculation and rumor did to recruiting? Last season, I was asked "how many of these guys could play for a team like Notre Dame?" I named 4, maybe 5. 2 of those names are now gone due thanks in large part to the AD and his indecision. This season?? I could name 1.
This team played it's HEART out on Saturday. They deserved a better result than they got. As a fan, I HATE "moral victories" however, this situation has opened my eyes to the fact that there are indeed times when the term "moral victory" is appropriate. I am EXTREMELY proud of the way this team and staff responded to the absolute debacle that was Friday night's game. Was it the players only meeting? Was it the adjustments that the staff made? (Which in past years would NOT have been made) Was it playing for each other, for their coaches, for the program and their fans? A mixture of everything? Probably.
Are there still things, as a fan, that I'd like to see changed? Sure. Are there still players that I would like to put a cattle prod to their backsides and tell them to freaking show some energy? Sure. Am I CERTAIN that those will be taken care of? ABSOLUTELY! They will be handled internally, however, and if not by the coaching staff then by the team itself. The leadership of this team is tremendous, one thing I will NEVER doubt.
Posters, like the one above, make me sick to my stomach. I seriously doubt if people like this have ever played a team sport. And I seriously doubt if they know what makes a successful program. Also, they obviously don't understand the college hockey landscape. College hockey is in such a state that literally the old saying is true "anyone can beat anyone on any given day." There is not a great deal separating most of the teams in college hockey today. Yes, there are your teams that stand above the others, but for the rest? And at the end of the season, one "off" game by those "super" teams, is the end of the road. It's not like College Football where seemlingly everyone with a .500 record makes a bowl.
I believe in this team and this program. Will it be a rough season? Absolutely! I BELIEVE that Razor and his staff will do what is right. I BELIEVE that this senior class and the other leaders on this team will do all they can to make things as smooth as possible. I am also realistic. I don't need any reality checks from people who are obviously clueless.
GO FALCONS!
KICK SOME CARD GAME BUTT!!!
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Game Thread: Providence vs. Bowling Green
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Re: Game Thread: Providence vs. Bowling Green
For BGSUFALCON24:
So you're a bandwagon fan then? It's clear from your last post that you're either that or not really a fan at all of the hockey program. You'll be for a team when they win and only when they win. That's not a fan, not even close. My guess is you are resentful that the team was saved and is going to be restored. You must have a problem with that as you seem very negative about anything and everything regarding the team. Did some sport or program get cut that you liked?
Nobody thinks things will suddenly turn around. In fact, you state that anyone thinking the team will suddenly turn it around needs a reality check. But you sound exactly like someone that expects a sudden turn around and is upset it's not happening. Which is it?
So you're a bandwagon fan then? It's clear from your last post that you're either that or not really a fan at all of the hockey program. You'll be for a team when they win and only when they win. That's not a fan, not even close. My guess is you are resentful that the team was saved and is going to be restored. You must have a problem with that as you seem very negative about anything and everything regarding the team. Did some sport or program get cut that you liked?
Nobody thinks things will suddenly turn around. In fact, you state that anyone thinking the team will suddenly turn it around needs a reality check. But you sound exactly like someone that expects a sudden turn around and is upset it's not happening. Which is it?
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Re: Game Thread: Providence vs. Bowling Green
Not to pick on the poor kid, but truth be told, he is this way about everything related to sports based on his comments in other forums over the years. I don't think he means to be, but he is almost the very definition of a front-runner.bgpuckster wrote:For BGSUFALCON24:
So you're a bandwagon fan then? It's clear from your last post that you're either that or not really a fan at all of the hockey program. You'll be for a team when they win and only when they win. That's not a fan, not even close. My guess is you are resentful that the team was saved and is going to be restored. You must have a problem with that as you seem very negative about anything and everything regarding the team. Did some sport or program get cut that you liked?
Nobody thinks things will suddenly turn around. In fact, you state that anyone thinking the team will suddenly turn it around needs a reality check. But you sound exactly like someone that expects a sudden turn around and is upset it's not happening. Which is it?
Personally, after how close this program truly came to the edge of oblivion last Spring, I'll take any kind of victory this year - moral or otherwise. This team and this coaching staff have a lot of work to do on the ice. The rest of us have a lot of work to do off of it.
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It is not my intention to do away with government. It is rather to make it work - work with us, not over us; stand by our side, not ride on our back. Government can and must provide opportunity, not smother it; foster productivity, not stifle it. ~Ronald Reagan
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Re: Game Thread: Providence vs. Bowling Green
I think he is still pissed about the men's soccer team not getting cut after they kicked him out of the field house turf room one daybgpuckster wrote:For BGSUFALCON24:
Did some sport or program get cut that you liked?
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Re: Game Thread: Providence vs. Bowling Green
Saturday was the first time I've really gotten to see this team play this season, and I have to say that I'm pleasantly surprised! After Friday's score, I fully expected to see our team go out and get stomped on, but they didn't. They played a complete game, and were just a couple of bounces away from a victory. I know that "moral victories" don't mean anything in the standings, but if this team continues to improve from game to game the way it did from Friday to Saturday, I think we'll be able to turn some heads this season. Do I think this is a top 6 CCHA team? No. But can we go out and be competitive every night? I believe we do.
One thing that really impressed me was the improvement in passing and hustle from the past few years. We were making good, crisp passes, and with few exceptions, did a good job of finding ways to keep the puck alive in the offensive zone. Hammond was solid in goal, and was quick to shift between stand-up and the butterfly. The major issues that we need to work on are the power play, backchecking, and shoveling in garbage goals. We missed a couple of easy shots when the Providence goalie was out of position on rebounds, and we looked decidedly undangerous on the 5 minute power play. Hopefully the boys keep their noses to the grindstone. If they do, they'll soon be rewarded with a "W"!
One thing that really impressed me was the improvement in passing and hustle from the past few years. We were making good, crisp passes, and with few exceptions, did a good job of finding ways to keep the puck alive in the offensive zone. Hammond was solid in goal, and was quick to shift between stand-up and the butterfly. The major issues that we need to work on are the power play, backchecking, and shoveling in garbage goals. We missed a couple of easy shots when the Providence goalie was out of position on rebounds, and we looked decidedly undangerous on the 5 minute power play. Hopefully the boys keep their noses to the grindstone. If they do, they'll soon be rewarded with a "W"!
Re: Game Thread: Providence vs. Bowling Green
Nobody in their right mind expects to see an immediate turn around from this program. Does that mean that we'll stop supporting it? Absolutely not because that just solidifies the AD's point of view that the program should be dropped. But, perhaps, that's your POV also, 24.
We lost some huge talent last year due to the incompetence of the AD and his indecision. No one can blame them for leaving, but it hurts the program none the less. As a result we have an extremely young team, a team that is literally starting over. Players who normally aren't expected to play on anything other than the third or fourth lines their freshman and sophomore years are playing on the top two lines. They have no time to adjust to the speed and pace of the next level. They're thrust out onto the ice against lines that have had the luxury of being able to work their ways up to the top positions on their teams. We have freshman and sophomores on every line! On top of that, the upperclassmen have a lot to unlearn and relearn because we have a whole new coaching staff bringing a completely different philosophy to the ice.
The only thing that I really want to see from this team over the course of the year is steady improvement. Something that has been sorely lacking over the past few seasons.
We lost some huge talent last year due to the incompetence of the AD and his indecision. No one can blame them for leaving, but it hurts the program none the less. As a result we have an extremely young team, a team that is literally starting over. Players who normally aren't expected to play on anything other than the third or fourth lines their freshman and sophomore years are playing on the top two lines. They have no time to adjust to the speed and pace of the next level. They're thrust out onto the ice against lines that have had the luxury of being able to work their ways up to the top positions on their teams. We have freshman and sophomores on every line! On top of that, the upperclassmen have a lot to unlearn and relearn because we have a whole new coaching staff bringing a completely different philosophy to the ice.
The only thing that I really want to see from this team over the course of the year is steady improvement. Something that has been sorely lacking over the past few seasons.
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Re: Game Thread: Providence vs. Bowling Green
It would seem that for us fans, and those who know hockey see what is going on here. We see a Coach, that we had thoughts and doubts about, who picked out a staff, that eased some of those doubts. We see the coaches connecting to the players in an effective way, and we respect them for singling out and slighting the players when the chips are down. We see captains on the team who circle the wagons and rally the troops who are EXCITED about their team and opportunity, mind you all WE ARE STILL 0-0-0 in the CCHA, for me NATIonal rank is squat, we need to do our best in the CCHA first as we claw our way out of the cellar, and see this team doing that. Our Coaches are seeing and figuring who plays what line, we have every indication those changes are working.
We are not in a good place, we are not in a bad place, the CCHA opens this weekend. That will be one series, and I think this team is now ready for CCHA play, as long as they play the way they did in game 2.
We are not in a good place, we are not in a bad place, the CCHA opens this weekend. That will be one series, and I think this team is now ready for CCHA play, as long as they play the way they did in game 2.
Re: Game Thread: Providence vs. Bowling Green
This year is not business as normal for BGSU Hockey, nor will any season for the next three or for years. These kids could have folded the tent or transferred if they wanted. They didn't. They, and their coach staid, and all of them are taking a risk in doing so. Win or lose, they took a leap of faith and decided BGSU was worth fighting for. And they have staid knowing the next few years may bring much hardship on the ice.
Keeping their heads up as they have, even they fail to win a game, I would rate them among the best teams in the programs history.
Keeping their heads up as they have, even they fail to win a game, I would rate them among the best teams in the programs history.
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Re: Game Thread: Providence vs. Bowling Green
MAC makes some great points, the National rank is BS esp this early in the season (believe a new one is out later today so it should be a little more accurate...) And we're still 0-0-0 in the CCHA, I think the team will get off to a slow start in the CCHA (as they did in nc play) but hopefully as the season goes on the many young players will gain some experience and chemistry with each other and I think the second half of the season will be a lot better than the first half. We all just need to be patient and keep supporting the team and Falcon Hockey as they rebuild!MACMAN wrote:It would seem that for us fans, and those who know hockey see what is going on here. We see a Coach, that we had thoughts and doubts about, who picked out a staff, that eased some of those doubts. We see the coaches connecting to the players in an effective way, and we respect them for singling out and slighting the players when the chips are down. We see captains on the team who circle the wagons and rally the troops who are EXCITED about their team and opportunity, mind you all WE ARE STILL 0-0-0 in the CCHA, for me NATIonal rank is squat, we need to do our best in the CCHA first as we claw our way out of the cellar, and see this team doing that. Our Coaches are seeing and figuring who plays what line, we have every indication those changes are working.
We are not in a good place, we are not in a bad place, the CCHA opens this weekend. That will be one series, and I think this team is now ready for CCHA play, as long as they play the way they did in game 2.
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Re: Game Thread: Providence vs. Bowling Green
It's conversations like these that make me never want to take my eyes off of AZZ. I'm off the grid for a couple of days and all hell breaks loose in the hockey forum.
I haven't had a chance to see any BG hockey yet this year outside of a half hour of practice and the WL exhibition game, but I have to say that this year CANNOT be about "win or else." A team that was just brought back from the brink of extinction is, most likely, not going to rule the world in their first year.
This year SHOULD be about showing our support for the players and coaching staff and proving to them that they have our faith that they'll do the right things to get back on track. Within the last year, this team was faced with the realistic possibility that they may not exist. That's a lonely, lonely place to be. Why add to it by quitting on them and their season?
Giving up on the team a few games into the season of their rebirth is absolutely ludicrous and, were it anyone else saying all of it, I wouldn't believe it was happening. But, then, I guess in this case I absolutely should have seen it coming.
To anyone who is willing to quit on this team and this season already, that's fine. Do us all a favor and hop off the bandwagon, making sure to roll both of your ankles on the way, so you won't be able to jump back on when things get turned around.
I'm looking forward to the day when I finally don't have to work and I get a chance to see this team in regular season action. Keep the faith, those of you who actually love BG hockey.
I haven't had a chance to see any BG hockey yet this year outside of a half hour of practice and the WL exhibition game, but I have to say that this year CANNOT be about "win or else." A team that was just brought back from the brink of extinction is, most likely, not going to rule the world in their first year.
This year SHOULD be about showing our support for the players and coaching staff and proving to them that they have our faith that they'll do the right things to get back on track. Within the last year, this team was faced with the realistic possibility that they may not exist. That's a lonely, lonely place to be. Why add to it by quitting on them and their season?
Giving up on the team a few games into the season of their rebirth is absolutely ludicrous and, were it anyone else saying all of it, I wouldn't believe it was happening. But, then, I guess in this case I absolutely should have seen it coming.
To anyone who is willing to quit on this team and this season already, that's fine. Do us all a favor and hop off the bandwagon, making sure to roll both of your ankles on the way, so you won't be able to jump back on when things get turned around.
I'm looking forward to the day when I finally don't have to work and I get a chance to see this team in regular season action. Keep the faith, those of you who actually love BG hockey.
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Re: Game Thread: Providence vs. Bowling Green
I'm lovin' all the positive postings thanks to bgsufalcon24's post!! Hockey fans, and in particular, BG FALCON HOCKEY FANS understand what is happening this year. Keep supporting this team and these coaches!! There is a lot of rebuilding going on this year, as we knew it would. And YES, I'll take that moral victory on Saturday night, after watching the game Friday night!! It's PROGRESS and that's what we want to see. You won't see the wins come without seeing the progress start to happen. This year wasn't going to be an easy one, but it could be a really fun ride for those of us who have been in it for the long haul!!! The true Falcon Hockey fans are there...WIN OR LOSE!!! AND WE KNOW THE WINS WILL COME!!
GO FALCON HOCKEY
SWEEEEEEEEEEP DUH MAVS!!!
GO FALCON HOCKEY
SWEEEEEEEEEEP DUH MAVS!!!
"Regarding BGSU, I would think their biggest strength is that they never give up, They never slow down and they battle hard even after the other team scores. We have to be on our game and never, ever take the foot off the gas for a second."
~~USCHO Poster
"BG was relentless. It's like they know that a good first pass on the breakout from a defenseman will almost always result in an odd-man rush against them - but they go in anyway and dare you to make that pass. All three of their goals were just grit and effort. That's a team any fan can be proud to support...they give all they've got."
~~USCHO Poster, AFTER Tech beat us
#NeverGiveUp
#NeverSurrender
#Relentless
#Resiliant
~~USCHO Poster
"BG was relentless. It's like they know that a good first pass on the breakout from a defenseman will almost always result in an odd-man rush against them - but they go in anyway and dare you to make that pass. All three of their goals were just grit and effort. That's a team any fan can be proud to support...they give all they've got."
~~USCHO Poster, AFTER Tech beat us
#NeverGiveUp
#NeverSurrender
#Relentless
#Resiliant
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Re: Game Thread: Providence vs. Bowling Green
First of all BGSUFalcon24 is absolutely obsurd. First of all buddy if you really back up what you say you are a joke. The falcons had 64 shots with 44 of them actually reaching the goalie. This is coming after a night we got outshot 45-18. Secondly the players only meeting obviously proves that the players care to hold guys after and get a point across by calling guys play and abilities out. In case you didnt notice their was an intensity and a swagger with the Falcons saturday night which is something you didnt see previously all year. Also, this team is still getting acquainted with 10 Freshman!!!! Guys play better when they know tendencies as the year goes on im sure guys will get more comfortable with each other. From what I heard guys enjoyed playing Saturday night and enjoyed having to fight for a win. IF you think this program is embarassing then dont talk about it or support it. These players dont give there all and very best every day on the ice and in the classroom for you to badmouth there determination to win. Obviously you seem to thrive on negativity and if thats so go criticize the football team for their play this weekend. Hockey is obviously not being recognized on campus but from personal experiences I have heard from several people that came to the game saturday night that Fridays performance did not affect their decision to see Falcon Hockey. Fans are starting to enjoy this and everything Ive heard this week that fans were excited with what they saw saturday night. Of course this program is not going to turn around overnight but to start chirping the team and their willingness to compete after 4 legit games is an embarassment.
Now to all the other comments I agree that things dont turn around overnight but this team has ability. Hammond is a stud between the pipes and the guy knows his angles and is willing to take chances because he knows he can make the saves. Solway brings an absolute electric spark to this team, it seems when he is on the ice its like lightning in a bottle he just flat out plays. Dee, Page, and Krelove are bringing very good performances and smart games as well as a willingness to battle. During Saturdays game I saw Falcon after Falcon beating Providence to the boards to win puck battles, guys wanted to score, wanted to battle, and wanted to win. You cant take away the GW Goal for Prov cause it was an absolute snipe top shelf, the guy made a play. But for anyone to say this team doesnt care or doesnt want to win doesnt deserve to sit in the stands and enjoy the Falcon Hockey program.
JST showed signs of life as a hockey player saturday. The guy finally skated a little bit and attempted to battle, normally he is lazy and chooses not to backcheck or pressure but saturday night he seemed like he wanted to play, maybe someone called him out during the player meeting. In the future I could see this guy being a real game changer if he continues to give his all. the Potacco line played a great forecheck all night and if Potacco, Pageua, Boyd, and others continue to pressure the puck carriers like that things are going to look up. Providence had a hard time getting the puck in our zone.
This weekend is going to be tough against a good, solid, quick UNO team but their is no reason that if we play like we did saturday night that we cant get a split down there. The offense is improving and I am looking for a big weekend from Solways line as I can see the guy is itching to light the lamp.
Falcons in the CCHA 0-0 THATS ALL THAT MATTERS!!!!
Now to all the other comments I agree that things dont turn around overnight but this team has ability. Hammond is a stud between the pipes and the guy knows his angles and is willing to take chances because he knows he can make the saves. Solway brings an absolute electric spark to this team, it seems when he is on the ice its like lightning in a bottle he just flat out plays. Dee, Page, and Krelove are bringing very good performances and smart games as well as a willingness to battle. During Saturdays game I saw Falcon after Falcon beating Providence to the boards to win puck battles, guys wanted to score, wanted to battle, and wanted to win. You cant take away the GW Goal for Prov cause it was an absolute snipe top shelf, the guy made a play. But for anyone to say this team doesnt care or doesnt want to win doesnt deserve to sit in the stands and enjoy the Falcon Hockey program.
JST showed signs of life as a hockey player saturday. The guy finally skated a little bit and attempted to battle, normally he is lazy and chooses not to backcheck or pressure but saturday night he seemed like he wanted to play, maybe someone called him out during the player meeting. In the future I could see this guy being a real game changer if he continues to give his all. the Potacco line played a great forecheck all night and if Potacco, Pageua, Boyd, and others continue to pressure the puck carriers like that things are going to look up. Providence had a hard time getting the puck in our zone.
This weekend is going to be tough against a good, solid, quick UNO team but their is no reason that if we play like we did saturday night that we cant get a split down there. The offense is improving and I am looking for a big weekend from Solways line as I can see the guy is itching to light the lamp.
Falcons in the CCHA 0-0 THATS ALL THAT MATTERS!!!!
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Re: Game Thread: Providence vs. Bowling Green
+1sum1udontknow wrote: Falcons in the CCHA 0-0 THATS ALL THAT MATTERS!!!!
Good Post!
"Regarding BGSU, I would think their biggest strength is that they never give up, They never slow down and they battle hard even after the other team scores. We have to be on our game and never, ever take the foot off the gas for a second."
~~USCHO Poster
"BG was relentless. It's like they know that a good first pass on the breakout from a defenseman will almost always result in an odd-man rush against them - but they go in anyway and dare you to make that pass. All three of their goals were just grit and effort. That's a team any fan can be proud to support...they give all they've got."
~~USCHO Poster, AFTER Tech beat us
#NeverGiveUp
#NeverSurrender
#Relentless
#Resiliant
~~USCHO Poster
"BG was relentless. It's like they know that a good first pass on the breakout from a defenseman will almost always result in an odd-man rush against them - but they go in anyway and dare you to make that pass. All three of their goals were just grit and effort. That's a team any fan can be proud to support...they give all they've got."
~~USCHO Poster, AFTER Tech beat us
#NeverGiveUp
#NeverSurrender
#Relentless
#Resiliant
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Re: Game Thread: Providence vs. Bowling Green
Love these positive posts. What else can we afford to be for this year but positive?
Attendance. pdt1081, we can call out the Marketing folks all day long re: advertising etc about "hey, we play a hockey game tonight!".
We could do that I guess.
Before the season Marketing/Tickets came out early with special season ticket packagaes- three I think/ again coming out early- including one designed for folks who might live farther away and wanted to help. That is from memory but I think that is accurate. And all good.
My thought would be- we have many, many concerned BG hockey fans who live within an hour or two of the arena. The schedule has been out. The games are marked on the calendar for a guy like me. Now a purely casual fan might indeed use that newfangled "internet" to see when we play- and then show up, buy a tickert and cheer like crazy when we score or when we make a big save.
Maybe we need a huge marketing push in media outlets in the 48 hours before every home game/series. Probably would help if we have budget.
Or maybe folks who care should just go.
Based on the Falcon hockey support over the past few months on this board, I would think we could find 1000 plus walk ups to go with 1000 plus students to go with season tickets to equal 2500 plus every game- easily.
Taken with the sell outs for certain opponenets, I would say the fellows would play even harder with the core 2500-3000 fans in the arena for every game.
That should happen this year. For THIS team. With or without Marketing.
Go Falcons!
Attendance. pdt1081, we can call out the Marketing folks all day long re: advertising etc about "hey, we play a hockey game tonight!".
We could do that I guess.
Before the season Marketing/Tickets came out early with special season ticket packagaes- three I think/ again coming out early- including one designed for folks who might live farther away and wanted to help. That is from memory but I think that is accurate. And all good.
My thought would be- we have many, many concerned BG hockey fans who live within an hour or two of the arena. The schedule has been out. The games are marked on the calendar for a guy like me. Now a purely casual fan might indeed use that newfangled "internet" to see when we play- and then show up, buy a tickert and cheer like crazy when we score or when we make a big save.
Maybe we need a huge marketing push in media outlets in the 48 hours before every home game/series. Probably would help if we have budget.
Or maybe folks who care should just go.
Based on the Falcon hockey support over the past few months on this board, I would think we could find 1000 plus walk ups to go with 1000 plus students to go with season tickets to equal 2500 plus every game- easily.
Taken with the sell outs for certain opponenets, I would say the fellows would play even harder with the core 2500-3000 fans in the arena for every game.
That should happen this year. For THIS team. With or without Marketing.
Go Falcons!
