Toledo to host Hurricanes?

[Flipper]

Welll....the purely negative take on this series is Miami doesn't pay you because they don't feel you're worth anything and Miami doesn't take any money from you because you're so insignificant that the pittance you could pay them does not come close to making up for what they would pay you.

But hey...I'm not a negative guy...I'm more of a happy go lucky, "my heart is a flower" kind of cat...

[rocketfootball]

Welll....the purely negative take on this series is Miami doesn't pay you because they don't feel you're worth anything and Miami doesn't take any money from you because you're so insignificant that the pittance you could pay them does not come close to making up for what they would pay you.

But hey...I'm not a negative guy...I'm more of a happy go lucky, "my heart is a flower" kind of cat...

Those that know how much Toledo paid Navy back in 1990 to come to the Glass Bowl know that the money Toledo could pay them would be very significant.....but obviously you are not gonna spend money if you don't have to. You did read the Blade article saying that Miami contacted us with a home and home offer, right?

[Redwingtom]

Welll....the purely negative take on this series is Miami doesn't pay you because they don't feel you're worth anything and Miami doesn't take any money from you because you're so insignificant that the pittance you could pay them does not come close to making up for what they would pay you.

But hey...I'm not a negative guy...I'm more of a happy go lucky, "my heart is a flower" kind of cat...

Those that know how much Toledo paid Navy back in 1990 to come to the Glass Bowl know that the money Toledo could pay them would be very significant.....but obviously you are not gonna spend money if you don't have to. You did read the Blade article saying that Miami contacted us with a home and home offer, right?

Well sh!t, even Miami who aren't what they used to be can still smell a patsy.

[Warthog]

I'm not getting all the hate on Miami. Yes, they haven't be national title contenders recently. But Randy Shannon has only been there three years and has improved their record each year, 5-7 to 7-6 to 9-4. They seem to be a program movign up.

And I'm not dissing the other teams Toledo is bringing in. Colorado, Iowa St, Pittsburgh, Arizona, etc. Yep, their not national contenders either. But, they are BCS schools. How many BCS schools have we brought into BG in the last ten years? Missouri, Minnesota,... Toledo is doing a very good job of getting big BCS schools to come to the Glass Bowl and I can give them credit for that.

[h2oville rocket]

I'm not getting all the hate on Miami. Yes, they haven't be national title contenders recently. But Randy Shannon has only been there three years and has improved their record each year, 5-7 to 7-6 to 9-4. They seem to be a program movign up.

And I'm not dissing the other teams Toledo is bringing in. Colorado, Iowa St, Pittsburgh, Arizona, etc. Yep, their not national contenders either. But, they are BCS schools. How many BCS schools have we brought into BG in the last ten years? Missouri, Minnesota,... Toledo is doing a very good job of getting big BCS schools to come to the Glass Bowl and I can give them credit for that.

Bringing them AND beating them (Kansas, Iowa State, Colorado, Pittsburgh...) There is no real hate here for Miami- did you expect people to say "Wow, Toledo is really doing a great job bringing in BCS teams to the Glass Bowl "(well, some like Flipper. factman, Chimie and yourself have but I really didn't expect kudos).

If we brought in Texas, Oklahoma and Southern Cal people would say they were a shadow of their former selves and were going to kill us anyway so why bring them, while privately gnashing their teeth that we got them.

[hammb]

I'm not getting all the hate on Miami. Yes, they haven't be national title contenders recently. But Randy Shannon has only been there three years and has improved their record each year, 5-7 to 7-6 to 9-4. They seem to be a program movign up.

And I'm not dissing the other teams Toledo is bringing in. Colorado, Iowa St, Pittsburgh, Arizona, etc. Yep, their not national contenders either. But, they are BCS schools. How many BCS schools have we brought into BG in the last ten years? Missouri, Minnesota,... Toledo is doing a very good job of getting big BCS schools to come to the Glass Bowl and I can give them credit for that.

Was that Pitt game in the last 10 years? I think it was. I know they're not in a BCS conference, but I consider a Boise home game to be just as good as any BCS team as well.

Either way, I'm in agreement with you. I think UT does a very good job of bringing in BCS schools to play in the Glass Bowl. BG hasn't done as good of a job, IMO. This year, for instance, is about as boring of a home schedule as you could imagine. Only 5 home games, 4 of which are MAC games. The lone OOC home game is a team that USED to be in the MAC. I'm glad they finally realized that we don't like noon kickoffs, so at least the game times are good this year, but the opponents are about as blah as you could imagine.

Conversely, UT has Arizona coming in this year. Even if it isn't a dominant football program, it's still an opponent you can get excited about.

[MarkL]

A few years ago, there were deals being made for home and homes with Maryland, Navy, and Indiana. Anybody heard anything about those three?

[JoeFalcon]

If we brought in Texas, Oklahoma and Southern Cal people would say they were a shadow of their former selves and were going to kill us anyway so why bring them, while privately gnashing their teeth that we got them.

Ah, but those programs are all regular participants in BCS games, while Miami hasn't sniffed the BCS in years and barely managed to scratch out a winning record in that football powerhouse known as the ACC, which some are hilariously citing as proof that they're back in the national picture.

It's not hate, just facts. Hey, they're an upgrade over the Iowa State's of the world (I forget the current position...are we bragging about hosting them or implicitly admitting they and the rest of their ilk suck by hyping the Miami game?) Losing out on a almost certain seven figure payout in this economy, they better be.

(Now back to that teeth gnashing )

[Flipper]

Welll....the purely negative take on this series is Miami doesn't pay you because they don't feel you're worth anything and Miami doesn't take any money from you because you're so insignificant that the pittance you could pay them does not come close to making up for what they would pay you.

But hey...I'm not a negative guy...I'm more of a happy go lucky, "my heart is a flower" kind of cat...

Those that know how much Toledo paid Navy back in 1990 to come to the Glass Bowl know that the money Toledo could pay them would be very significant.....but obviously you are not gonna spend money if you don't have to. You did read the Blade article saying that Miami contacted us with a home and home offer, right?

I could say that my bumper contacted he raccoon I mowed down last week too...but I'm waaaaay nicer than that...

[Chimie]

I'm not getting all the hate on Miami. Yes, they haven't be national title contenders recently. But Randy Shannon has only been there three years and has improved their record each year, 5-7 to 7-6 to 9-4. They seem to be a program movign up.

And I'm not dissing the other teams Toledo is bringing in. Colorado, Iowa St, Pittsburgh, Arizona, etc. Yep, their not national contenders either. But, they are BCS schools. How many BCS schools have we brought into BG in the last ten years? Missouri, Minnesota,... Toledo is doing a very good job of getting big BCS schools to come to the Glass Bowl and I can give them credit for that.

Bringing them AND beating them (Kansas, Iowa State, Colorado, Pittsburgh...) There is no real hate here for Miami- did you expect people to say "Wow, Toledo is really doing a great job bringing in BCS teams to the Glass Bowl "(well, some like Flipper. factman, Chimie and yourself have but I really didn't expect kudos).

If we brought in Texas, Oklahoma and Southern Cal people would say they were a shadow of their former selves and were going to kill us anyway so why bring them, while privately gnashing their teeth that we got them.

Trust me, I bleed Orange and Brown, but I have to admit, UT is doing a great job pulling in big name programs.

Despite what Joe is saying, these BCS teams--while not always National Title contenders, are nationally recognized programs. Obviously, pulling in a USC/OhSt./Texas/FL and beating them would be... orgasmic, but still, getting even the Kansas and Pitts of the BCS is still huge. It's not the matter of how -good- the team is per se, but rather the national recognition, while our OOC teams are all conf.champs, that doesn't really do anything for us. If Boise beat Troy and UCLA, which one would bring more attention? Which one would give them more significance?

The fact of the matter is, everyone in the USA knows Miami. Everyone knows THE U. Miami has a national fan base. Most people who aren't College football buffs most likely cant name you what state Troy, Marshal, or some of these teams are in. It's a significant difference--while they're not IAA, to the average fan, they are about the same. People who don't even like/follow Toledo will come to the game, just to watch Miami.

I would also back the whole Boise thing as being huge, however, them being a Mid-Major and having most Big-6 not want to play them I think helped us get them scheduled--but then again, even with them, we played two games at Boise in exchange for one home?

Just a little anecdote, Two years ago after one of the games, I was throwing a football around with a HS kid, I believe it was after the Kent game or OU game or something, and the kid asked if we ever played Division 1 teams...
I told him BGSU -WAS- a D1 team, and so was whoever we had just played. He was shocked. He asked what teams we played against OOC. I told him we had games against Boise, Troy, Marshal and Mizzou, and he was flabbergasted that we would actually play against BOISE AND MISSOURI.

Guess which teams he didn't talk/care about?

A few years ago, there were deals being made for home and homes with Maryland, Navy, and Indiana. Anybody heard anything about those three?

Maryland had a home and away scheduled for 2010/11 I believe, but that was replaced with Marshal, iirc. One of the other Big 6 games was replaced by the Michigan games too.

Maryland being down lately I think is a VERY winnable game, I wish we still had it.

[Falconfreak90]

I still would love to see BG get a school like the Canes at DLP...regardless of the risks and rewards, IF tsun gets Miami at the GB, that is huge.

We were supposed to have Maryland at home in '11 but I think that deal is nada now.

[BGFalconfromCincy]

A few years ago, there were deals being made for home and homes with Maryland, Navy, and Indiana. Anybody heard anything about those three?

Maryland had a home and away scheduled for 2010/11 I believe, but that was replaced with Marshal, iirc. One of the other Big 6 games was replaced by the Michigan games too.

Maryland being down lately I think is a VERY winnable game, I wish we still had it.

The Tulsa series replaced the Maryland series

[h2oville rocket]

A few years ago, there were deals being made for home and homes with Maryland, Navy, and Indiana. Anybody heard anything about those three?

Maryland had a home and away scheduled for 2010/11 I believe, but that was replaced with Marshal, iirc. One of the other Big 6 games was replaced by the Michigan games too.

Maryland being down lately I think is a VERY winnable game, I wish we still had it.

The Tulsa series replaced the Maryland series

There ya go, Freak! You're gettin' the 'Canes!

[Chimie]

A few years ago, there were deals being made for home and homes with Maryland, Navy, and Indiana. Anybody heard anything about those three?

Maryland had a home and away scheduled for 2010/11 I believe, but that was replaced with Marshal, iirc. One of the other Big 6 games was replaced by the Michigan games too.

Maryland being down lately I think is a VERY winnable game, I wish we still had it.

The Tulsa series replaced the Maryland series

Gracias, Wasn't sure which one it was...

Bad move imho, though--I actually think Maryland is a more winnable game, and a big 6 team.

[BGFalconfromCincy]

A few years ago, there were deals being made for home and homes with Maryland, Navy, and Indiana. Anybody heard anything about those three?

Maryland had a home and away scheduled for 2010/11 I believe, but that was replaced with Marshal, iirc. One of the other Big 6 games was replaced by the Michigan games too.

Maryland being down lately I think is a VERY winnable game, I wish we still had it.

The Tulsa series replaced the Maryland series

Gracias, Wasn't sure which one it was...

Bad move imho, though--I actually think Maryland is a more winnable game, and a big 6 team.

From what I remember I believe it was Maryland who pulled out of the series, so we really didn't have much of a choice