I agree. I hope it's thrown out!hutchirish wrote:the icing while shorthanded rule is totally a bunk idea. That would really slow the game down...
Proposed Rule Changes
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Re: Proposed Rule Changes
"Regarding BGSU, I would think their biggest strength is that they never give up, They never slow down and they battle hard even after the other team scores. We have to be on our game and never, ever take the foot off the gas for a second."
~~USCHO Poster
"BG was relentless. It's like they know that a good first pass on the breakout from a defenseman will almost always result in an odd-man rush against them - but they go in anyway and dare you to make that pass. All three of their goals were just grit and effort. That's a team any fan can be proud to support...they give all they've got."
~~USCHO Poster, AFTER Tech beat us
#NeverGiveUp
#NeverSurrender
#Relentless
#Resiliant
~~USCHO Poster
"BG was relentless. It's like they know that a good first pass on the breakout from a defenseman will almost always result in an odd-man rush against them - but they go in anyway and dare you to make that pass. All three of their goals were just grit and effort. That's a team any fan can be proud to support...they give all they've got."
~~USCHO Poster, AFTER Tech beat us
#NeverGiveUp
#NeverSurrender
#Relentless
#Resiliant
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MACMAN
Re: Proposed Rule Changes
I am having a hard time understanding how they think they could shoot the puck over the glass in the defensive zone that is a dealy of game penalty
"A minor penalty for delay of game shall be imposed on any player or goalkeeper who deliberately shoots or bats the puck outside the playing area during the play or after a stoppage of play.
When any player or goalkeeper, while in his defending zone, shoots the puck directly (non-deflected) out of the playing surface, except where there is no glass, a penalty shall be assessed for delaying the game. When the puck is shot into the players’ bench, the penalty will not apply. When the puck is shot over the glass ‘behind’ the players’ bench, the penalty will be assessed.
Key words here "shoots or bats the puck"
"A minor penalty for delay of game shall be imposed on any player or goalkeeper who deliberately shoots or bats the puck outside the playing area during the play or after a stoppage of play.
When any player or goalkeeper, while in his defending zone, shoots the puck directly (non-deflected) out of the playing surface, except where there is no glass, a penalty shall be assessed for delaying the game. When the puck is shot into the players’ bench, the penalty will not apply. When the puck is shot over the glass ‘behind’ the players’ bench, the penalty will be assessed.
Key words here "shoots or bats the puck"
Re: Proposed Rule Changes
That call is at the discretion of the referee. I've never seen that called in my 7 years (short time, I know) in watching college hockey.
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Re: Proposed Rule Changes
More than once, I've seen a situation where it SHOULD have been called! One in particular stands out. Forget who the Michigan goalie was, possibly Turco, up at Yost, where the goalie shot the puck up into the stands and hit a little girl. She was sitting fairly high up too! He looked up into the stands and immediately turned his back to it, acting as if he'd done nothing wrong! People were very surprised no penalty was called. There was absolutely no question that he cleared that puck into the stands ON PURPOSE!! Just one of the many reasons that helped me hate the weasels!BGDrew wrote:That call is at the discretion of the referee.
"Regarding BGSU, I would think their biggest strength is that they never give up, They never slow down and they battle hard even after the other team scores. We have to be on our game and never, ever take the foot off the gas for a second."
~~USCHO Poster
"BG was relentless. It's like they know that a good first pass on the breakout from a defenseman will almost always result in an odd-man rush against them - but they go in anyway and dare you to make that pass. All three of their goals were just grit and effort. That's a team any fan can be proud to support...they give all they've got."
~~USCHO Poster, AFTER Tech beat us
#NeverGiveUp
#NeverSurrender
#Relentless
#Resiliant
~~USCHO Poster
"BG was relentless. It's like they know that a good first pass on the breakout from a defenseman will almost always result in an odd-man rush against them - but they go in anyway and dare you to make that pass. All three of their goals were just grit and effort. That's a team any fan can be proud to support...they give all they've got."
~~USCHO Poster, AFTER Tech beat us
#NeverGiveUp
#NeverSurrender
#Relentless
#Resiliant
Re: Proposed Rule Changes
The rules committee has killed the ridiculous short-handed icing rule.
Thank goodness!
Thank goodness!
I love people who can laugh at themselves. It saves me the effort.
Re: Proposed Rule Changes
Here are the rest of the rule changes (Thanks to USCH):
Rule: Stopping play when video review is imminent
Explanation: In games with video review, when a close play occurs at the goal and the referee is certain he/she will review the situation, play shall be stopped when no advantage is gained, similar to a stoppage for an injured player.
Rule: Half Shield allowance (men’s play only)
Explanation: To work with the NCAA Committee on Competitive Safeguards and Medical Aspects of Sport to research and study the use of half shield facial protection and the potential impact on NCAA competition.
Rule: Delayed penalty enforcement
Explanation: If the non-offending team scores during the delayed penalty, the penalty would still be enforced and that team would receive a power play.
Rule: Contact to the Head
Explanation: Alter the language to read: “A player shall not target and make contact with an opposing player’s head or neck area in any manner or force the head of an opposing player into the protective glass, boards or goal cage.”
PENALTY—Major and a game misconduct or disqualification at the discretion of the referee.”
Rule: Defensive team shoots puck out of play from defensive zone
Explanation: When a delay of game penalty is not called, the team that shoots the puck directly out of play would not be allowed to change its players.
Rule: Faceoff location – Shot off of goal and out of play
Explanation: When the puck is shot by the offensive team and it hits the goal cage and goes out of play, keep the faceoff in the offensive zone.
Rule: Hand Passes
Explanation: Require that a hand pass must be “deliberately directed to a teammate or create a gained advantage” for this rule to be in effect.
Rule: Hybrid Icing
Explanation: New rule that would mirror a system used in some junior leagues where the linesmen judge which player would touch the puck first if an icing is in effect.
Rule: Obtainable pass
Explanation: Remove this provision in the rules.
Rationale: This rule has created more difficulty for linesmen to judge icing calls and some teams have used this rule to their advantage without making a skilled play.
Rule: Overtime
Explanation: To have goalkeepers change ends of the ice before the overtime period begins.
Rule: Overtime
Explanation: To have goalkeepers change ends of the ice before each overtime period when games are played to a winner (20 minute, sudden death periods).
Rule: Awarding goals
Explanation: To allow a goal to be awarded during a breakaway situation with an empty net if the player is fouled.
Rule: Use of timeout to change players
Explanation: If a team ices the puck or creates a stoppage that does not allow a change of players and then calls timeout, it would be allowed to change its players. Only the team that calls the timeout would be allowed to change its players in situations where players are not allowed to change.
Rule: Penalty enforcement
Explanation: Make most penalties consistent with respect to what the officials’ options are (e.g., minor, major, game misconduct, game disqualification).
Rationale: There are some situations where officials have intended to enforce one penalty, but the option wasn’t there. For example, excessive roughness carries a disqualification only. Some other penalties stop at game misconducts.
Rule: Holding Teams at end of periods
Explanation: At the end of the period, the home team must wait to be released from the bench by the referee, unless the exit to the lockerroom is in the bench area. Players are not to enter the ice if the exit to the lockerroom is through the bench. The penalty for this rule would be a warning and then a bench minor.
Rule: Players refusing to play the puck
Explanation: When there is a stalemate, the officials shall stop play and administer the rule that caused the stoppage.
Rule: Commercial Logos
Explanation: Allow messaging behind the goal and consider allowing commercial logos in the attacking zone, outside the circles?
Rationale: Many institutions and conferences have placed a logo behind the goal even though technically illegal. Some institutions have requested the ability to put advertising or team logos in the attacking zone near the blue line.
Rule: Net specifications
Explanation: To align the recommended specifications of the netting with the NHL’s.
Rule: Jerseys
Explanation: Clarify that the number shall contrast the overall jersey color. This rule is recommended immediately, but will be mandated starting with the 2012-13 season.
Rationale: In some cases, there are teams that use white numbers that are outlined in the darker color, which are difficult to see.
Rule: Disqualifications in the last game of season
Explanation: Clarify that these disqualifications carry over to the following season if a player has eligibility remaining. Any carry-over disqualification are not part of the progression procedure.
Rule: Goalkeeper prevented from playing position
Explanation: To officially legislate the approved ruling that has been used the past two seasons in these situations. The penalty should specify that a goal is disallowed in these situations; currently it notes the faceoff location.
Rationale: Clarity. This rule has been enforced properly, but it eliminates any issues.
Experimental Rules
(Note: all following text is inferred from notes only; it is not part of the official committee submission and therefore has no explicit explanation or rationale.)
Rule: Hand passes legal in all zones
Explanation: Deliberate hand-passes will be permitted in all zones, at all times.
Rule: Delayed penalty situation – puck must be possessed by offending team outside the defending zone
Explanation: The offending team must possess the puck beyond its own blue line in order to draw the whistle for its penalty.
Rule: Four-on four overtime
Explanation: Teams will play four-on-four in overtime, the same as the NHL.
Future Considerations
* High-sticking the puck shall be allowed when it does not put any other player at risk (e.g. in open ice, or when alone in front of the net)
* Teams and/or players will serve the full two minutes for minor penalties, regardless of power-play goals against. (Writer’s note: sound familiar?)
Read more: http://www.uscho.com/blogs/the-breakawa ... z0t9TcxPhG
Rule: Stopping play when video review is imminent
Explanation: In games with video review, when a close play occurs at the goal and the referee is certain he/she will review the situation, play shall be stopped when no advantage is gained, similar to a stoppage for an injured player.
Rule: Half Shield allowance (men’s play only)
Explanation: To work with the NCAA Committee on Competitive Safeguards and Medical Aspects of Sport to research and study the use of half shield facial protection and the potential impact on NCAA competition.
Rule: Delayed penalty enforcement
Explanation: If the non-offending team scores during the delayed penalty, the penalty would still be enforced and that team would receive a power play.
Rule: Contact to the Head
Explanation: Alter the language to read: “A player shall not target and make contact with an opposing player’s head or neck area in any manner or force the head of an opposing player into the protective glass, boards or goal cage.”
PENALTY—Major and a game misconduct or disqualification at the discretion of the referee.”
Rule: Defensive team shoots puck out of play from defensive zone
Explanation: When a delay of game penalty is not called, the team that shoots the puck directly out of play would not be allowed to change its players.
Rule: Faceoff location – Shot off of goal and out of play
Explanation: When the puck is shot by the offensive team and it hits the goal cage and goes out of play, keep the faceoff in the offensive zone.
Rule: Hand Passes
Explanation: Require that a hand pass must be “deliberately directed to a teammate or create a gained advantage” for this rule to be in effect.
Rule: Hybrid Icing
Explanation: New rule that would mirror a system used in some junior leagues where the linesmen judge which player would touch the puck first if an icing is in effect.
Rule: Obtainable pass
Explanation: Remove this provision in the rules.
Rationale: This rule has created more difficulty for linesmen to judge icing calls and some teams have used this rule to their advantage without making a skilled play.
Rule: Overtime
Explanation: To have goalkeepers change ends of the ice before the overtime period begins.
Rule: Overtime
Explanation: To have goalkeepers change ends of the ice before each overtime period when games are played to a winner (20 minute, sudden death periods).
Rule: Awarding goals
Explanation: To allow a goal to be awarded during a breakaway situation with an empty net if the player is fouled.
Rule: Use of timeout to change players
Explanation: If a team ices the puck or creates a stoppage that does not allow a change of players and then calls timeout, it would be allowed to change its players. Only the team that calls the timeout would be allowed to change its players in situations where players are not allowed to change.
Rule: Penalty enforcement
Explanation: Make most penalties consistent with respect to what the officials’ options are (e.g., minor, major, game misconduct, game disqualification).
Rationale: There are some situations where officials have intended to enforce one penalty, but the option wasn’t there. For example, excessive roughness carries a disqualification only. Some other penalties stop at game misconducts.
Rule: Holding Teams at end of periods
Explanation: At the end of the period, the home team must wait to be released from the bench by the referee, unless the exit to the lockerroom is in the bench area. Players are not to enter the ice if the exit to the lockerroom is through the bench. The penalty for this rule would be a warning and then a bench minor.
Rule: Players refusing to play the puck
Explanation: When there is a stalemate, the officials shall stop play and administer the rule that caused the stoppage.
Rule: Commercial Logos
Explanation: Allow messaging behind the goal and consider allowing commercial logos in the attacking zone, outside the circles?
Rationale: Many institutions and conferences have placed a logo behind the goal even though technically illegal. Some institutions have requested the ability to put advertising or team logos in the attacking zone near the blue line.
Rule: Net specifications
Explanation: To align the recommended specifications of the netting with the NHL’s.
Rule: Jerseys
Explanation: Clarify that the number shall contrast the overall jersey color. This rule is recommended immediately, but will be mandated starting with the 2012-13 season.
Rationale: In some cases, there are teams that use white numbers that are outlined in the darker color, which are difficult to see.
Rule: Disqualifications in the last game of season
Explanation: Clarify that these disqualifications carry over to the following season if a player has eligibility remaining. Any carry-over disqualification are not part of the progression procedure.
Rule: Goalkeeper prevented from playing position
Explanation: To officially legislate the approved ruling that has been used the past two seasons in these situations. The penalty should specify that a goal is disallowed in these situations; currently it notes the faceoff location.
Rationale: Clarity. This rule has been enforced properly, but it eliminates any issues.
Experimental Rules
(Note: all following text is inferred from notes only; it is not part of the official committee submission and therefore has no explicit explanation or rationale.)
Rule: Hand passes legal in all zones
Explanation: Deliberate hand-passes will be permitted in all zones, at all times.
Rule: Delayed penalty situation – puck must be possessed by offending team outside the defending zone
Explanation: The offending team must possess the puck beyond its own blue line in order to draw the whistle for its penalty.
Rule: Four-on four overtime
Explanation: Teams will play four-on-four in overtime, the same as the NHL.
Future Considerations
* High-sticking the puck shall be allowed when it does not put any other player at risk (e.g. in open ice, or when alone in front of the net)
* Teams and/or players will serve the full two minutes for minor penalties, regardless of power-play goals against. (Writer’s note: sound familiar?)
Read more: http://www.uscho.com/blogs/the-breakawa ... z0t9TcxPhG
Check out our new BGSU hockey site: http://www.bgsuhockey.com
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Re: Proposed Rule Changes
WHAT HE SAID!!! YAY!!!!!rood wrote:The rules committee has killed the ridiculous short-handed icing rule.
Thank goodness!
+1000000000000!!!!!!!!!!
"Regarding BGSU, I would think their biggest strength is that they never give up, They never slow down and they battle hard even after the other team scores. We have to be on our game and never, ever take the foot off the gas for a second."
~~USCHO Poster
"BG was relentless. It's like they know that a good first pass on the breakout from a defenseman will almost always result in an odd-man rush against them - but they go in anyway and dare you to make that pass. All three of their goals were just grit and effort. That's a team any fan can be proud to support...they give all they've got."
~~USCHO Poster, AFTER Tech beat us
#NeverGiveUp
#NeverSurrender
#Relentless
#Resiliant
~~USCHO Poster
"BG was relentless. It's like they know that a good first pass on the breakout from a defenseman will almost always result in an odd-man rush against them - but they go in anyway and dare you to make that pass. All three of their goals were just grit and effort. That's a team any fan can be proud to support...they give all they've got."
~~USCHO Poster, AFTER Tech beat us
#NeverGiveUp
#NeverSurrender
#Relentless
#Resiliant
Re: Proposed Rule Changes
- The CCHA will continue to use the shootout.
- Every conference and non-conference game will use mandated media timeouts (really?).
http://www.ccha.com/ccha_to_continue_sh ... play_.aspx
- Every conference and non-conference game will use mandated media timeouts (really?).
http://www.ccha.com/ccha_to_continue_sh ... play_.aspx
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Re: Proposed Rule Changes
The WCHA did this last year. I guess it makes sense in terms of tv and radio broadcasts but I would think there are more people in the stands than there are watching/listening at home. It's going to be really annoying for the people at the games.BGDrew wrote: - Every conference and non-conference game will use mandated media timeouts (really?).
BOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!- The CCHA will continue to use the shootout.
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Re: Proposed Rule Changes
Mandated media time-outs. Isn't this a sad state of affairs, when media can rule the ebb and flow of a constant motion sport. At least World Cup soccer has held out so far.
I find shoot-outs exciting and great for the fans, but it's no way to decide points. Rather than put everything on the goalies, why not pull the goalies and go five-on-five until someone scores?
I find shoot-outs exciting and great for the fans, but it's no way to decide points. Rather than put everything on the goalies, why not pull the goalies and go five-on-five until someone scores?
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MACMAN
Re: Proposed Rule Changes
sure why not, make the guys play post!
Same difference.
or how about feats of strength..a bench press contest, keg tossing and a nice game of corn hole to decide all equally as important to the game of hockey as a shoot out.
Same difference.
or how about feats of strength..a bench press contest, keg tossing and a nice game of corn hole to decide all equally as important to the game of hockey as a shoot out.
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Re: Proposed Rule Changes
-CCHAThe new standardized media timeout policy states that there will be three timeouts in each period of play. Timeouts will be at the first stoppage with under 14:00, 10:00 and 6:00 minutes on the clock for each period in all games. Teams must be at even strength. A timeout cannot be taken following an icing call following, following a call for shooting the puck out of play, following a goal or during a power-play situation. A timeout can be taken going into a power-play situation.
Seems like way too many media timeouts, 14:00 and 6:00 would be plenty, esp since most of the time CCHA games are local broadcasts.
With all the talk of Penn State adding hockey and coming to the CCHA, in addition to the existing Big 10 schools, I wonder if this is Big 10 Network friendly.
Everything looks good until the last part. I don't think they should be used going into a power play though- that kinda kills PP momentum and also gives the PK team a time to rest!!
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Re: Proposed Rule Changes
I've always been intrigued by the 5-4-3 model of overtime.
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Re: Proposed Rule Changes
I've always been intrigued by this new refusal to accept games ending in a tie.BGDrew wrote:I've always been intrigued by the 5-4-3 model of overtime.
I love people who can laugh at themselves. It saves me the effort.
Re: Proposed Rule Changes
Good point. I guess it reflects society as a whole. Everything has to be either/or, good/bad, for/against, win/lose. Ties represent ambiguity. No one wants to thump their chest and shout "We're #1/2!"I've always been intrigued by this new refusal to accept games ending in a tie.
