Toledo City League Football

[Warthog]

Sorry, but I don't buy that 'it's harder to make the playoffs if you play in tough league thing'. I would go the other way and say it's harder to make the playoffs if you play in an easy league. For simplicity sake, league teams are always going to play each other and one team will win and one will lose. That is, it doesn't matter how good or bad the league is as there is a finite number of wins available in league games. In an eight team league, there are 28 wins and 28 losses in league play. So that all washes out. But there are 24 non-league games, and 24 wins available. You play in a tough league, maybe your league opponents go 20-4. You play in a weak league and maybe your opponents go 4-20. Which scenario creates more opportunity to pick up secondary computer points that lead to making the playoffs? Obviously the one were your opponents have won more games. Therefore, playing in a tougher league leads to a BETTER chance of making the playoffs.

Perrysburg and Southview (and AW too) are at a disadvantage when it comes to playoff points since they are playing in a league with smaller division teams. And that is exactly the same reason that Rossford could go 6-4 three years ago and still make the playoffs.

[jpfalcon09]

Sorry, but I don't buy that 'it's harder to make the playoffs if you play in tough league thing'. I would go the other way and say it's harder to make the playoffs if you play in an easy league. For simplicity sake, league teams are always going to play each other and one team will win and one will lose. That is, it doesn't matter how good or bad the league is as there is a finite number of wins available in league games. In an eight team league, there are 28 wins and 28 losses in league play. So that all washes out. But there are 24 non-league games, and 24 wins available. You play in a tough league, maybe your league opponents go 20-4. You play in a weak league and maybe your opponents go 4-20. Which scenario creates more opportunity to pick up secondary computer points that lead to making the playoffs? Obviously the one were your opponents have won more games. Therefore, playing in a tougher league leads to a BETTER chance of making the playoffs.

Perrysburg and Southview (and AW too) are at a disadvantage when it comes to playoff points since they are playing in a league with smaller division teams. And that is exactly the same reason that Rossford could go 6-4 three years ago and still make the playoffs.

It's a good point, however in this case the NLL has enough D-I/D-II schools where I don't think its that big of an issue. Plus, the OOC schedule against largely D-1 and D-II schools does help them. Let's not forget either that Rogers went 9-1 last year and made the playoffs, getting wins against AW and Southview of the NLL, while they beat up on all the bad teams in the TCL, their only hard tough game was Whitmer and they were run. For leagues like the NLL, it just varies year to year on the strength of the teams as to whether or not teams can make the playoffs.

[FalconTurf]

Please explain why Perrysburg and Southview would leave the NLL for Three Rivers. Makes NO sense to me.

No way on Perrysburg. They were rumored to have told Fremont Ross (pretty reliable but not absolute source) they would vote against their entry into the NLL. And Fremont Ross will have great difficulty cracking the top 4 in football in the TRAC with very few other sports even having a slight chance of doing the same. If Perrysburg doesn't want to have FR who's on the DI / DII line of football in their league then there is no way they could feel they could compete in the TRAC.

The members of the TRAC will be Fremont Ross, Findlay, Lima Senior, Toledo St. John, Toledo St. Francis, Toledo Central Catholic, Oregon Clay, and Toledo Whitmer. You are telling me there are 4 schools better than Fremont in football in that conference? Central Catholic will definitely be the powerhouse of this league, but I see Fremont anywhere from 2nd to 5th. Lima Senior will be on the bottom. I predict a typical finishing scenario of

1. TCC
2. St. John
3. Fremont
4. Findlay
5. St. Francis
6. Clay
7. Whitmer
8. Lima

I said "great difficulty" vs. saying they won't. Whitmer has been the best of the bunch the last couple of years and certainly can't be a typcial #7 finisher. Whitmer and Findlay have been very difficult games for Ross while TCC and SJ are even more consistant powers. I truly believe with all the football tradition in this league it will be difficult for some fans to realize that four of these powers will not finish in the top 4. Ross will not finish in the top 4 every year and it will be interesting to see how this plays out. Hope they do well but this is going to be a very competitive league with football being their best opportunity for titles.

[footballguy51]

Please explain why Perrysburg and Southview would leave the NLL for Three Rivers. Makes NO sense to me.

No way on Perrysburg. They were rumored to have told Fremont Ross (pretty reliable but not absolute source) they would vote against their entry into the NLL. And Fremont Ross will have great difficulty cracking the top 4 in football in the TRAC with very few other sports even having a slight chance of doing the same. If Perrysburg doesn't want to have FR who's on the DI / DII line of football in their league then there is no way they could feel they could compete in the TRAC.

The members of the TRAC will be Fremont Ross, Findlay, Lima Senior, Toledo St. John, Toledo St. Francis, Toledo Central Catholic, Oregon Clay, and Toledo Whitmer. You are telling me there are 4 schools better than Fremont in football in that conference? Central Catholic will definitely be the powerhouse of this league, but I see Fremont anywhere from 2nd to 5th. Lima Senior will be on the bottom. I predict a typical finishing scenario of

1. TCC
2. St. John
3. Fremont
4. Findlay
5. St. Francis
6. Clay
7. Whitmer
8. Lima

I said "great difficulty" vs. saying they won't. Whitmer has been the best of the bunch the last couple of years and certainly can't be a typcial #7 finisher. Whitmer and Findlay have been very difficult games for Ross while TCC and SJ are even more consistant powers. I truly believe with all the football tradition in this league it will be difficult for some fans to realize that four of these powers will not finish in the top 4. Ross will not finish in the top 4 every year and it will be interesting to see how this plays out. Hope they do well but this is going to be a very competitive league with football being their best opportunity for titles.

I haven't paid attention to some of these schools since I was in high school playing football against them about 8-10 years ago, so some of my information may be a little dated. I just remember beating up on Whitmer and Clay, and having Lima as a doormat.

That being said, I totally agree with you that this will be a VERY competitive league. The level of competition in this league can only stand to make everybody that much better. If you only play weak opponents, there is no reason to push yourself to work harder. However, if you know you must work your butt off in order to win, you will do so and in the end put a more polished product on the field.

[Warthog]

FWIW, Southview and Perrysburg beat upper level City League teams St. Francis and Bowsher last night.

[jpfalcon09]

Week 1 Recap, went 10-0 on my picks!

http://tinyurl.com/2ezt3os

[h2oville rocket]

Week 1 Recap, went 10-0 on my picks!

http://tinyurl.com/2ezt3os

Attended the Rogers game- they did nothing much on offense with the exception of 3 VERY long plays for TDs. AW was without their two top runners=Rogers had some quicks and their D was good, but the big play was a 123 yard punt return for a TD by Rogers. Exciting stuff.

[Flipper]

Doesn't Rogers have a high D1 recruit at one of the skill positions...I think he's a WR/DB?

[h2oville rocket]

Doesn't Rogers have a high D1 recruit at one of the skill positions...I think he's a WR/DB?

I know their one LB, Gambrell, who played QB/WR on offense is going to OSU. He looked to be their best player but njot at QB and he did nothing at WR either. Looked good on D-not sure where OSU plans to use him-he's pretty good size with room to grow. Another WR- Demond, maybe?, caught a long TD and returned the punt for a TD-don't think he's signed anywhere but certainly has MAC level speed.

[footballguy51]

Week 1 Recap, went 10-0 on my picks!

http://tinyurl.com/2ezt3os

but the big play was a 123 yard punt return for a TD by Rogers. Exciting stuff.

Not to nitpick, but what field was this game being played on?

[h2oville rocket]

Week 1 Recap, went 10-0 on my picks!

http://tinyurl.com/2ezt3os

but the big play was a 123 yard punt return for a TD by Rogers. Exciting stuff.

Not to nitpick, but what field was this game being played on?

Wondered when somebody would catch that- I think the return was 84 yards officially but the guy went all the way left, all the way right clear back across the field and back left again before he scored- I figure he added at least 39 yards to the straight line distance. Looked like an America's Cup race- tacking all the way.

[jpfalcon09]

http://www.examiner.com/high-school-spo ... redictions

My Week 2 predictions are up. Two games of note as Findlay/St. Francis and Perrysburg/Clay square off.