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Outgained 241-12 in the first quarter alone!

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UT outgained BG 241-12 in the first quarter alone. Ballgame, right there! Those 19 first-quarter points were all they even needed for the rest of the game. UT outgained us 537-254 for the game and our only offensive score for the entire game came on a 13-yard drive on a broken tackle.
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Poor game prep, the game plan sucked and our defense wasn't ready for anything. Only after was it 19-0 were adjustments made and the defense was able to get stops. Toledo could have named their score tonight, I think Beckman took his foot off the gas a bit.
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jpfalcon09 wrote:Poor game prep, the game plan sucked and our defense wasn't ready for anything. Only after was it 19-0 were adjustments made and the defense was able to get stops. Toledo could have named their score tonight, I think Beckman took his foot off the gas a bit.

Not sure about taking the foot off the gas but he definitely went conservative after building the big lead. Except for the reverse, which we've run a few times this year, we pretty much ran the vanilla offense after the first quarter and tried to control the ball with the running game. Thomas long TD was on a basic off tackle sort of thing- he just made a great move to get outside.
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BGSU33 wrote:UT outgained BG 241-12 in the first quarter alone. Ballgame, right there!
=D>

Everybody hates it whenever I call games over before the bitter end, so I'm glad to see that others here aren't afraid to do it when it's so painfully obvious like last night. It was one of those games early on where it was so bad it was funny. Gmartin wanted me to eat crow after the 13-yd TD drive only to have that crow thrown back in his face like a whipped cream pie on the very next play (the 81-yd TD run). It just wasn't our night, and you knew it wasn't going to be from the beginning given our lack of preparation, execution, and interest. We've got a lot of work to do if we want to get the Peace Pipe back.
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bgsufalcon24 wrote:
BGSU33 wrote:UT outgained BG 241-12 in the first quarter alone. Ballgame, right there!
=D>

Everybody hates it whenever I call games over before the bitter end, so I'm glad to see that others here aren't afraid to do it when it's so painfully obvious like last night. It was one of those games early on where it was so bad it was funny. Gmartin wanted me to eat crow after the 13-yd TD drive only to have that crow thrown back in his face like a whipped cream pie on the very next play (the 81-yd TD run). It just wasn't our night, and you knew it wasn't going to be from the beginning given our lack of preparation, execution, and interest. We've got a lot of work to do if we want to get the Peace Pipe back.
See, the difference is he posted it after the game was over and we hadn't scored more than 19 like UT did in the first quarter. He can say it was the ballgame right there because after it was over, you couldn't dispute it. However, down 19 points in football in the first quarter does not mean the end of a game - as someone pointed out, UT was down 24 to us at halftime in 2009 and they came back and tied it. If we had been able to make the right adjustments, we could have come back and won or at least made it interesting. Stop being so damn negative right out of the gate.
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musicman2343 wrote:UT was down 24 to us at halftime in 2009 and they came back and tied it.
While they did tie the game in the fourth quarter, the score was 24-14 at halftime. BG lead 24-0 after 1 quarter.
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Redwingtom wrote:
musicman2343 wrote:UT was down 24 to us at halftime in 2009 and they came back and tied it.
While they did tie the game in the fourth quarter, the score was 24-14 at halftime. BG lead 24-0 after 1 quarter.

Touche. Going off of memory which was obviously incorrect; but, the point is the game obviously wasn't over after the first quarter. UT got their game together and we stalled. No reason that could have happened the other way around last night.
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musicman2343 wrote:No reason that could have happened the other way around last night.

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musicman2343 wrote:
bgsufalcon24 wrote:
BGSU33 wrote:UT outgained BG 241-12 in the first quarter alone. Ballgame, right there!
=D>

Everybody hates it whenever I call games over before the bitter end, so I'm glad to see that others here aren't afraid to do it when it's so painfully obvious like last night. It was one of those games early on where it was so bad it was funny. Gmartin wanted me to eat crow after the 13-yd TD drive only to have that crow thrown back in his face like a whipped cream pie on the very next play (the 81-yd TD run). It just wasn't our night, and you knew it wasn't going to be from the beginning given our lack of preparation, execution, and interest. We've got a lot of work to do if we want to get the Peace Pipe back.
See, the difference is he posted it after the game was over and we hadn't scored more than 19 like UT did in the first quarter. He can say it was the ballgame right there because after it was over, you couldn't dispute it. However, down 19 points in football in the first quarter does not mean the end of a game - as someone pointed out, UT was down 24 to us at halftime in 2009 and they came back and tied it. If we had been able to make the right adjustments, we could have come back and won or at least made it interesting. Stop being so damn negative right out of the gate.
There are two main problems with this argument.

1.The two teams are vastly different, and the circumstances surrounding the game much different, than a year ago. Most of our starting offensive talent from a year ago is no longer present, and Toledo had significant turnover at key positions as well. New guys came in and played, guys that had nothing to do with last year's outcome. Schemes and coaching changes with players too. Comparing last year's game to this year's is apples to oranges because of the personnel on the field.

2.There wasn't as large a talent disparity between the two teams last year as there is this year. Last season going into the Battle of I-75, Toledo was 5-6 and Bowling Green was 6-5. The game was pretty much a toss-up, maybe slight edge BG because the game was in BG and BG's record was 1 game better. In a situation like that, it isn't all that shocking that one team could jump out to a big lead but that the other team could come back. This year on the other hand, Toledo was 6-4 going in and BG was 2-8. Toledo was clearly the superior team. Now let me ask all of you, in how many games, college or professional, have you seen a 6-4 or better team jump out on a 2-8 or worse team by three touchdowns and then see the 2-8 team rally to win? It hardly ever happens, maybe in less than 1% of all such games. Now if we were winning 19-0 over Toledo, a comeback would be MUCH more likely because of their greater talent level. But the big underdog rarely comes back on the big favorite like that.

As for the "halftime adjustments" argument, there were no halftime adjustments to be made because we were totally overmatched. I mean, are we kidding ourselves here? What was Clawson going to do, start throwing deep every play and get Schilz killed because the O-Line can't block? Keep pounding the ball on the ground into the Toledo D-Line, because again, we can't block? Forget about defense because that's a funny joke. When you have a team that...

A.Can't tackle
B.Can't block
C.Can't drive the ball on offense to score points

...you really don't have a chance to win once down by more than 14 points barring a miracle.
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