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With the win yesterday by our Falcons and the Kent loss to CMU, BG is one full game up on Kent. BG gets both Kent and Buffalo at home and Kent has the tougher road schedule. I never feel confident going to Oxford so I could see a BG slip up there but as long as we hold our ground at home we will win the MAC East. Heck, a win over Kent alone would mean we would only need to go 2-2 in the other 4 games.

With that said, it looks like UT will win the West and get the #1 seed. BG will win the East and be the #2 seed. They will be on a collision course to meet in the MAC final.

According to Jerry Palm's Feb 12 predictions he has UT as the only team from the MAC. He doesn't even have BG listed as close, or the next 4 out, meaning we are not even in the top 72. UT is even a 13 seed. BG is 20-4, whereas UT is 18-6. On a more disgusting note, OSU is 13-9 and a #7 seed. Go figure!!!

So all we all know it is a one team bid again this year. Nothing would please me more than to go to the MAC Championship and knock off Toledo and knock them to the NIT. Then we can listen to all the Rocket fans complain how they got screwed over.

4 weeks from now it will all be determined!!
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gmartin wrote:With the win yesterday by our Falcons and the Kent loss to CMU, BG is one full game up on Kent. BG gets both Kent and Buffalo at home and Kent has the tougher road schedule. I never feel confident going to Oxford so I could see a BG slip up there but as long as we hold our ground at home we will win the MAC East. Heck, a win over Kent alone would mean we would only need to go 2-2 in the other 4 games.

With that said, it looks like UT will win the West and get the #1 seed. BG will win the East and be the #2 seed. They will be on a collision course to meet in the MAC final.

According to Jerry Palm's Feb 12 predictions he has UT as the only team from the MAC. He doesn't even have BG listed as close, or the next 4 out, meaning we are not even in the top 72. UT is even a 13 seed. BG is 20-4, whereas UT is 18-6. On a more disgusting note, OSU is 13-9 and a #7 seed. Go figure!!!

So all we all know it is a one team bid again this year. Nothing would please me more than to go to the MAC Championship and knock off Toledo and knock them to the NIT. Then we can listen to all the Rocket fans complain how they got screwed over.

4 weeks from now it will all be determined!!
The unfortunate part about it is that we put ourselves into this position by losing to a downright horrible WMU team, that was the game that totally took us out of the at-large discussion. Now I know that we've got injuries and other stuff going on that took away from our efforts, but to get beat by double digits against a sub-200 RPI team, that should NEVER, EVER happen to a Curt Miller coached team. If we had just 3 defeats right now, we'd still have a shot at it by winning out until the MAC tournament final against Toledo.

Now, make no bones about it, we need to win the MAC tournament championship. It would certainly help if we beat Kent the 2nd time around to secure the WNIT berth first, I don't know much about their selection process and how much our record and overall track record have to do with it.
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RealTimeRPI.com has BG at 53rd on Sunday, one spot ahead of Toledo. The Falcons were omitted from the NCAA Tournament two years ago after losing to Ball State with an RPI about 20 spots higher than it is currently. Hard to figure an at-large path this season too.

So, win the MAC Tournament.....Again!
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Our RPI after losing the Ball State game in the MAC tournament was 37. That I remember clearly. We did not have many quality wins that year and the MAC was the 14th best conference. I believe our record ended up being 27-5. Interestingly, if we win out and lose the MAC final we will once again finish 27-5. And our RPI will be in lower 40s or high 30s. ?ery similar to a few years ago. So we DO need to win the MAC championship. But as I said, it would be great if the team we knock off in the final was Toledo because clearly they won't make the NCAA tournament without winning the whole thing. At least this year we have two quality wins (Vandy and Ark LR) however TWO bad bad losses in Evansville and WMU. Let's just enjoy the last month and see how it all plays out. I really do hope UT makes it to the championship game because if we can crush any teams hopes I want it to be the team up north!

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AyZiggy97 wrote:RealTimeRPI.com has BG at 53rd on Sunday, one spot ahead of Toledo. The Falcons were omitted from the NCAA Tournament two years ago after losing to Ball State with an RPI about 20 spots higher than it is currently. Hard to figure an at-large path this season too.

So, win the MAC Tournament.....Again!
That Ball State team was extremely good, probably the best non-BG MAC team to come along within the past 10 years or so. They went on and destroyed Tennessee 71-55 in the first round of the NCAA tournament. Now, what was totally nauseating was that the tournament committee kept us out in 2009 despite the facts that:

1.Ball State clearly had top 25 level talent that year, and was getting votes in both polls going into the conference tournament. They weren't schmucks.
2.The game went down to the final minute, where one stop or one made basket could've resulted in a BG win.
3.BG, even with that defeat, was 28-4 overall (I think, gmartin says 27-5, so who knows), which by not being selected either breaks or ties the NCAA record for most wins to NOT make the NCAA field.
4.BG's RPI was 37, which is usually a slam dunk for inclusion in the field
5.BG had quality wins against teams like St Bonaventure, Hartford, and Dayton out of conference, and then also beat Ball State in conference play, so it's not like BG was totally devoid of good wins. Their two questionable losses came against Valparaiso and Miami, two teams that were approximately 100-125 in the RPI at the time. The other losses came against Ball State and Temple, two teams in the RPI top 50.

In other words, we got hosed. Royally. It's enough to make you wonder if we ruffled some feathers during our Sweet 16 run in 2007, that maybe the committee didn't want us in the draw because of our previous success, because after all, it's bad for business if cinderella survives more than 1 round. :x
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"On a more disgusting note, OSU is 13-9 and a #7 seed."

This is absolutely wrong. I've seen that osu team play and they really aren't that good. I don't think they're .500 in the BiG Teneleventwelve. F that. They have no biz being in the NCAA this year.

BG is gonna have to win the tourney...again. No respect year after year.
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OSU is now 14-9, and is at .500 in the conference. Predictions have 7 teams of the Big whatever in the field with an 8 team lurking. Of which two more teams were 14-10 overall. I just don't see where a 14-10 makes it over a 20-4 team, however Rutgers the other year made it in with a 17-13 record after their coach through a tantrum saying she would decline an NIT bid if they didn't make the field.
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gmartin wrote:OSU is now 14-9, and is at .500 in the conference. Predictions have 7 teams of the Big whatever in the field with an 8 team lurking. Of which two more teams were 14-10 overall. I just don't see where a 14-10 makes it over a 20-4 team, however Rutgers the other year made it in with a 17-13 record after their coach through a tantrum saying she would decline an NIT bid if they didn't make the field.
:roll: ----> Rutgers coach.

If osu goes on a run and gets to 18-10, 19-9, I have no problem then. But if they slide home a couple games over .500....eh, who am I kidding.

BG has 3 of the last 5 at home, good stuff. Looking forward to them hitting Akron next week...

Kent has kinda been faltering lately. And ut is 10-1...Our regular season title run is in jeopardy. We're gonna have to run the table and hope ut loses a couple to get at least a share of #7.

TOGETHER WE ATTACK!!!
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