Would you hire Tressell as head coach here

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We had boosters contacting the compliance officer here at BG because a kid ate a hot dog at a tailgate...we've had zip in the way of major violations here...OSU self-reported over 300 violations under JT. Yeah, I think we're entitled to be a bit self-righteous on this one. And I have to tell you...if you're willing to hire a guy who's cheated everywhere he's been, I don't think you have much respect for BGSU.
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Flipper wrote:And I have to tell you...if you're willing to hire a guy who's cheated everywhere he's been, I don't think you have much respect for BGSU.
My thought is that the university failed in educating him if he believes we should hire such a guy. :cry:
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transfer2BGSU wrote:
Flipper wrote:And I have to tell you...if you're willing to hire a guy who's cheated everywhere he's been, I don't think you have much respect for BGSU.
My thought is that the university failed in educating him if he believes we should hire such a guy. :cry:
Self Righteous....BG does it better then OSU kind of stuff does not sit well with me. And I hate OSU. Its that same self righteous attitude that makes me hate them.

Either do personal insults which is exactly what Grant was trying to do away with when he closed the free for all. ](*,)

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FWIW, I'd take Tressel at BG.
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Is his wife hot? I think that should be the deciding factor on him possibly coaching here.
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If BG got a few scholarships taken away for minor violations, and had a MAC championship season. Call it what it is and call me what you want........I'll take the championship.

Reason, the NCAA may take scholarships away however they don't take the money you generate off of winning seasons away. This helps all programs and student athletes within the university.
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Tricky_Falcon wrote:Winning is nice but at what cost? I don't need my alma mater being known as a cheat.
There it is...nuff said.

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Warthog wrote:FWIW, I'd take Tressel at BG.
WH - would like to hear more about your thinking there.

And I have to say, I think this is a good thread topic. The knee-jerk reaction is "we're too good for that." But, Globetrotter is right. Hiring Tressel would bring an immense amount of media attention to BG, and not all of it negative. ESPN would be all over this story ... "Can Tressel Redeem Himself" and that sort of thing.

Tressel sits out the 2011 season, no matter what. But come 2012, he'll be back on the market and who knows.

You can't simply dismiss this. Look at Andy Reid. The guy signed a convicted felon after he got out of prison. A certain faction of fans were outraged, indignant. Fast forward a year and hardly anyone talks about Vick's conviction. It's the feel-good sports story of the decade. Why couldn't Tressel have a similar comeback?

Now, for the record, I wouldn't want Tressel at BG. I'd rather have someone else take that risk. But the idea shouldn't be dismissed out of hand.
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If all we cared about was the win column, then this guy would be a great hire. However, by hiring Tressel, you are essentially opening the doors for every NCAA and private investigator to stop by and check things out. Every rule violation, including the minor ones that nobody even realizes exists, would be caught and reported. The distraction of having him as a coach could actually be a bigger negative than his positive effect on the team's performance. Could you imagine trying to practice when there are media, investigators, and fans watching? Ohio State had closed practices, but I'm sure an NCAA investigator could come in regardless. We currently have open practices, but I could see that changing if we hired such a polarizing character as coach.

Am I saying that we are too respectable to hire him, or that we're somehow above that? That's not my argument, so my personal feelings about that opinion are irrelevant. I'm saying that the negative press and increased media attention, along with the increased NCAA attention, would most likely be so damaging to the program that a coach would not be able to coach his team to surpass all of that.
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We hired Denny Stolz after Michigan State was put on three years probation and he was fired by them.

But, no, I wouldn't touch Tressel with a 10-foot vest.
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Good point Lord Byron...we hired Stolz after MSU fired him for cheating. It took him awhile, but he built a winner here...we were unbeaten and ranked heading into the 1985 Cal Bowl. Stolz spent prep week interviewing for his next gig and took the San Diego State job right before the game. We got trucked and looked completely lost on the field. It's not just the ethical issues with guys like Stolz and Tressel...ultimately you can't trust them to do right by you.
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1987alum wrote:
Warthog wrote:FWIW, I'd take Tressel at BG.
WH - would like to hear more about your thinking there.
One of the great sportswriters of our time, Ryan Autullo, starts his story on Tressell resigning by saying "Those who know him best, say Jim Tressell is a man of faith, integrity, and loyalty." I've read the same in lot of places. People respect Jim Tressell for the way he has lead his life, how he has inspired others to better themselves, how he does tons a ton of charitable work. At the heart of it, I too, think Jim Tressell is a good man.

But college football is a dirty business. He got caught up in a lie, that I would bet he wishes he could undo. I'm not sure if I had been in the same situation, would I have done the same thing? Players selling trinkets for tatoos or cash, to me, isn't a big deal. BUT, it is against NCAA regulations and that makes it wrong. But it is a small violation. The problem was the coverup. But I understand that.

If something bad happens in your family, do you run off to the authorities and let them know? Say you find out your teenage son is doing drugs. Do you run him down to the police station and turn him in or do you keep it in your family and find a way to deal with the situation? I'm guessing most people keep it in the family. And that's what I see Tressell was trying to do. Deal with the situation internally. But when he lied about there being a situation, that was his downfall.

If what most people say about him being a man of faith, integrity and honesty is true, I imagine he has been regretting the lie for a long time now. And I would think that he would act differently in the same situation in the future.

And for God's sake, he is a great coach. Love or hate Ohio State, they won. And you can't cheat on Saturdays. You win by being better prepared, having a better game plan, executing better than your opponent. Who wouldn't want that for their favorite team?

I think most of you know that I am NOT an Ohio State fan. I'm not a hater either.
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http://www.onionsportsnetwork.com/video ... agi,19097/

I just think this is funny and connects to what was said about Vick.

Ona another note.....I keep hearling things like "Thanks ESPN-SI-Dispatch-Ray Small-Terrell Pryor-Kirk Herbstreit-The Lantern".....You don't do the deed you can't get caught for it.
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The reason why I disagree with Warthog is just that I don't believe that he actually IS a good and honest man. I think he's always been a shady dude willing to do ANYTHING to win, and that goes all the way back to his YSU days. Then at OSU I think he just kept letting his lies and snowball because he didn't figure that he'd ever get caught.

Tressel is a good football coach, no denying that, but I still wouldn't want him at BG. My problem with Tressel has always been that image, which I've long felt is very undeserved. I do believe that pretty much all of the "big time" programs are dirty as hell, but I think Tressel is among the dirtiest, and always has been. I realize minor violations happen everywhere, probably even here, but I'd rather not bring in a coach known for introducing players to these types of people.

Let somebody else take that risk.
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hammb, I do agree to some extent with what you are saying. Tressell had issues and YSU and now they cost him his job at OSU. And on the face of it, I tend to agree that his reputation seems undeserved. But I don't know the man personally. And those that do say nothing mostly great things about his character. I'd be willing to take the chance on the man as he seeks to redeem himself as a coach and a leader of young men.

But I certainly understand most peoples desire not to want him around.

How will we feel if Akron or Kent hire him next season and he leads them to multilple MAC championships while running a clean program?

Of course any talk of Tressell coaching at BG would mean that we have to stink it up bad again this season and get rid of Clawson. So hypothetically, if we are searching for a coach after this season, I would pursue Tressell. It's all moot if we have a good season.
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