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unfalconbelievable wrote:Tressel covered up a violation, if he would have just turned it over to compliance department Pryor would be out, but he would be fine. People would be accepting of that and his image won't have been tarnished.

DON'T LIE TO NCAA.

nonsense...OSU was breaking rules right and left. I'll agree that you can probably survive if you're just a little dirty and winning, but OSU racked up hundreds of violations under JT...lying to the NCAA may have been the match that lit the fuse, but this was a bomb that was going to go off someday...it was just a mtter of time.
That is the thing that people seem to be forgetting here.

So many OSU fans are saying, "If he just would have turned Pryor in" or "If they would have just cut ties with Pryor." That's all bullshit. Pryor is just the current prominent face on what has been a decade of corruption being led by Jim Tressel. This follows the corrupt program that he led at YSU.

Tressel may not actively cheat, but he sure as hell cultivates a culture where cheating is rampant. And then he turns a blind eye to it all and claims ignorance when he's confronted. His behavior shows NONE of the so-called integrity that is his reputation. He's always been shady, and it's about damned time that came back to bite him in the ass. It would have come out eventually...if not now, eventually...

Yeah, Tressel is a good coach and would probably win at BG. Yeah, he would bring a ton of new fans, and tons of publicity for the program. I also have no reason to believe that he wouldn't bring his same corrupt style...hooking up athletes with whatever boosters could get them the gifts they want and then letting that all go on unchecked. This quote from the SI article says volumes to me, and it only confirms the opinion I've held of Tressel for quite some time:
According to his fellow assistant, Tressel rigged the raffle so that the elite prospects won -- a potential violation of NCAA rules. Says the former colleague, who asked not to be identified because he still has ties to the Ohio State community, "In the morning he would read the Bible with another coach. Then, in the afternoon, he would go out and cheat kids who had probably saved up money from mowing lawns to buy those raffle tickets. That's Jim Tressel."
On the surface he pretends to be this god faring guy full of integrity, but behind the scenes he would throw his mother under a bus if it won him a damn football game.
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jg4242 wrote:I don't want any part of Jim Tressel. He's not worth the trouble, or his salary. It simply doesn't make sense for a school our size to spend big money on sports. We can never get that investment back, because we simply don't have a big enough revenue base. Let's take the money we would have to spend on a coach like Tressel and invest it somewhere important, like paying professors. Or maybe saving the graduate programs the University is cutting this summer.
First game tressell would coach here would sell out. He would get OSU near quality recruits and we would get fans here that were mad at OSU for dumping such a great man. This would be a game changer for BGSU football, probably put us on the Boise St map.
Great...now that we've established what you are, all that's left is to haggle over the price......George Bernard Shaw.
I have not said I would do it ...just seems that we are downplaying what Tressell would mean to BG football.
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Just setting aside your feelings about him as a person and how ethical he would be my question is--Is he really that great of an X's and O's coach? Obviously he is a great recruiter and program builder but he had an incredible amount of resources(legal and illegal) available to him at Ohio State. How would he manage with a budget that's a fraction of what he is used to? Going back to the X's and O's I know more than a few Buckeyes fans who were less than enthralled with his game management. They won games with superior talent but when they ran into someone with equal or greater talent they came up on the short end more often than not.
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jg4242 wrote:I don't want any part of Jim Tressel. He's not worth the trouble, or his salary. It simply doesn't make sense for a school our size to spend big money on sports. We can never get that investment back, because we simply don't have a big enough revenue base. Let's take the money we would have to spend on a coach like Tressel and invest it somewhere important, like paying professors. Or maybe saving the graduate programs the University is cutting this summer.
First game tressell would coach here would sell out. He would get OSU near quality recruits and we would get fans here that were mad at OSU for dumping such a great man. This would be a game changer for BGSU football, probably put us on the Boise St map.
So what? Even if you're right (which I doubt, Tressel didn't get "OSU near quality recruits" at YSU, he won't get them here), we can't afford his salary. Spend the money on more important things, like EDUCATION. Beyond that, we have no need for someone with his newfound reputation working for this university. Wins and sellouts be damned, it's NOT WORTH IT
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jg4242 wrote:
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jg4242 wrote:I don't want any part of Jim Tressel. He's not worth the trouble, or his salary. It simply doesn't make sense for a school our size to spend big money on sports. We can never get that investment back, because we simply don't have a big enough revenue base. Let's take the money we would have to spend on a coach like Tressel and invest it somewhere important, like paying professors. Or maybe saving the graduate programs the University is cutting this summer.
First game tressell would coach here would sell out. He would get OSU near quality recruits and we would get fans here that were mad at OSU for dumping such a great man. This would be a game changer for BGSU football, probably put us on the Boise St map.
So what? Even if you're right (which I doubt, Tressel didn't get "OSU near quality recruits" at YSU, he won't get them here), we can't afford his salary. Spend the money on more important things, like EDUCATION. Beyond that, we have no need for someone with his newfound reputation working for this university. Wins and sellouts be damned, it's NOT WORTH IT
When he was at Youngstown state he did not have a BCS championship or 10 winning seasons at Ohio State. The money could be seen as an investment to the football program that would reep benefits for the entire school. More visibility would lead to more applications and more funds. You think people who love OSU football give solely to the OSU football team? Nope
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doughash wrote:Just setting aside your feelings about him as a person and how ethical he would be my question is--Is he really that great of an X's and O's coach? Obviously he is a great recruiter and program builder but he had an incredible amount of resources(legal and illegal) available to him at Ohio State. How would he manage with a budget that's a fraction of what he is used to? Going back to the X's and O's I know more than a few Buckeyes fans who were less than enthralled with his game management. They won games with superior talent but when they ran into someone with equal or greater talent they came up on the short end more often than not.
As someone who has watched nearly every OSU game for the past 7 years I would say yes he is. Very conservative, not creative at all...so no Chip Kelly or anything like that, More of a Royce Gracie then a Rampage Jackson. if you get in a bad position you will likely lose but it won't be flashy.
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Globetrotter wrote:First game tressell would coach here would sell out.
As long as we came into the game undefeated, and played a respectable D-IA opponent in September on a nice day, every home game has a chance to sell out.

Globetrotter wrote:He would get OSU near quality recruits
And here is where you become Globetrotter again.....

Globetrotter wrote:and we would get fans here that were mad at OSU for dumping such a great man.
You'll only get mad at me for telling the truth so I won't say anything

Globetrotter wrote:This would be a game changer for BGSU football, probably put us on the Boise St map.
Once again, I write "I can't tell if the post was made for real or in jest."
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Globetrotter wrote: You think people who love OSU football give solely to the OSU football team? Nope
I'd say otherwise and here's why: The majority of people who love OSU have no ties to the university other than the fact they love OSU sports because they live in Ohio. Most of them only go to sporting events and therefore their ticket money goes straight to the athletic department. They don't care about the academics at OSU and most of them wouldn't give any money to help academics...
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Globetrotter wrote: You think people who love OSU football give solely to the OSU football team? Nope
I'd say otherwise and here's why: The majority of people who love OSU have no ties to the university other than the fact they love OSU sports because they live in Ohio. Most of them only go to sporting events and therefore their ticket money goes straight to the athletic department. They don't care about the academics at OSU and most of them wouldn't give any money to help academics...
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Globetrotter wrote:First game tressell would coach here would sell out.
As long as we came into the game undefeated, and played a respectable D-IA opponent in September on a nice day, every home game has a chance to sell out.

Globetrotter wrote:He would get OSU near quality recruits
And here is where you become Globetrotter again.....

Globetrotter wrote:and we would get fans here that were mad at OSU for dumping such a great man.
You'll only get mad at me for telling the truth so I won't say anything

Globetrotter wrote:This would be a game changer for BGSU football, probably put us on the Boise St map.
Once again, I write "I can't tell if the post was made for real or in jest."
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Globetrotter wrote:You think people who love OSU football give solely to the OSU football team? Nope
I didn't think people who love OSU football knew that OSU had any other athletic teams :twisted:
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Pryor and his cars....

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Of course, the NCAA is investigating Terrell Pryor for his use of NUMEROUS cars over his three years in Columbus. So how does he arrive at the team meeting where they learn the coach has resigned?

He must not be planning to return next year. NOBODY is that damn stupid!
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transfer2BGSU wrote:Of course, the NCAA is investigating Terrell Pryor for his use of NUMEROUS cars over his three years in Columbus. So how does he arrive at the team meeting where they learn the coach has resigned?

He must not be planning to return next year. NOBODY is that damn stupid!
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