BGSU APR scores...looking sweet!!

[Falcon Fanatic]

Do wins count more than academics at BGSU? The evidence saya no. Gregg Brandon had a winning record here...he didn't get fired after his one losing season here, he got fired after going .500. with a poor APR and a slew of off field problems

If he was having 10 win seasons and the program seemed to be progressing he would have likely stayed.

That's an assumption....I stated facts. I win...

+1

[Falconfreak90]

Footballguy51 -

Your post is why I need a like button!!

Good idea...and hell of a post Footballguy51.

[Globetrotter]

Do wins count more than academics at BGSU? The evidence saya no. Gregg Brandon had a winning record here...he didn't get fired after his one losing season here, he got fired after going .500. with a poor APR and a slew of off field problems

If he was having 10 win seasons and the program seemed to be progressing he would have likely stayed.

That's an assumption....I stated facts. I win...

So you think if he goes 10-2 instead of 6-6 in his final year he gets fired?

He had 1 winning season in his last three and he had a losing record over that time. Dan Dakich had a winning overall record as well.

[Flipper]

Dan Dakich was a loser over the course of his second run and had a Godawful final MAC season. It doesn't matter what I think would have happened...I know what did happen...

[Globetrotter]

Dan Dakich was a loser over the course of his second run and had a Godawful final MAC season. It doesn't matter what I think would have happened...I know what did happen...

I think that it matters that you are overexageratting him as a winner.

[Flipper]

I think you're having a hard time admitting that our history and culture don't match your suppositions...

[Globetrotter]

I think I am going to have to look up Suppositions

[Flipper]

I think you need to look up a whole bunch of words...but that's another topic.

Anywhoo...saw on twitter yesterday that Clawson's APR is the highest in the MAC and in the top 15 nationally. Timmah up at UT is second..he's in the top 25 nationally. I like what Beckman is doing up there. I like what Clawson is doing here. I think they're both headed for bigger opportunities down the road.

[Globetrotter]

I think you need to look up a whole bunch of words...but that's another topic.

Anywhoo...saw on twitter yesterday that Clawson's APR is the highest in the MAC and in the top 15 nationally. Timmah up at UT is second..he's in the top 25 nationally. I like what Beckman is doing up there. I like what Clawson is doing here. I think they're both headed for bigger opportunities down the road.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaoLU6zKaws

[Falconfreak90]

I think you need to look up a whole bunch of words...but that's another topic.

Anywhoo...saw on twitter yesterday that Clawson's APR is the highest in the MAC and in the top 15 nationally. Timmah up at UT is second..he's in the top 25 nationally. I like what Beckman is doing up there. I like what Clawson is doing here. I think they're both headed for bigger opportunities down the road.

Saw that as well, Flip. It is great seeing Coach Clawson's APR #1 in the MAC. Also nice to not see BG football players in the police blotter lately. The wins will come soon....

[Globetrotter]

If they go 2-10 with the #1 APR again this year what do you think will happen?

[1987alum]

If they go 2-10 with the #1 APR again this year what do you think will happen?

People on this board with b*tch & moan. Meanwhile the sun will rise in the East and set in the West and I'll still be wondering how I'm going to pay that d*mn mortgage again at the beginning of the month ...

[Flipper]

This is getting silly...there's little argument that can be made re what would happen to a coach who performed poorly on the academic side or the athletic side. Yeah..a slew of off field problems got a coach with a winning record here fired and a number of 2-10 seasons in a row (I don't think 2 would be the magic number, FWIW) would get a coach fired. Jim Tressel was God at OSU...a few months later he's dog...didn't lose a single game aong the way. We can theorize about where the balance between academics and athletics resides here at BG all we want. What counts is our history and what we demand from our coaches. History suggests that you can be a good guy with mediocre to poor results and still keep your job (Blackney 1995-2000). You can have some success and screw the pooch academically and get canned (Brandon). Don't know if you can do great on the field and stay with poor academics or have great academics and poor performance...neither of those things has happened.

I would hope that we would show more patience to the guy with the great academics because he's at least trying to carry out the primary mission of the University...that's educating our utes, IIRC. The guy who's sacrificing academics and behavoiral standards for results is thumbing his nose at the community. I don't want that person here... I don't want Luther Pruett from Marshall, I don't want Jim Tressel, I don't want Tom Amstutz....ultimately..as much as I appreciated his work here and enjoyed talking to him a time or two..I don't want Gregg Brandon here.

I'm a greedy bastard...I want academics and athletics. It's a difficult trick to pull off, but I think we can do it...Doyt Perry would want nothing less...

[musicman2343]

Excellent post, Flip!

[Globetrotter]

No discussion on the discussion boards! Only discussion can be had if we know exactly what the results will be!