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falconman · Post by **falconman** » Thu Jan 13, 2005 9:45 pm

I read in the Dayton Daily News today that Robert Redd signed a deal with the Philidelphia Eagles today. This is pretty exciting news for the former Falcon.

kdog27 · Post by **kdog27** » Thu Jan 13, 2005 11:09 pm

falconman wrote:I read in the Dayton Daily News today that Robert Redd signed a deal with the Philidelphia Eagles today. This is pretty exciting news for the former Falcon.

Do you or anyone else know what he has been doing since he got cut by the Colts? I miss seeing his slick moves on the field.

TG1996 · Post by **TG1996** » Thu Jan 13, 2005 11:27 pm

kdog27 wrote:Do you or anyone else know what he has been doing since he got cut by the Colts? I miss see his slick moves on the field.

He had been playing with Colorado of the Arena League, but didn't report to their camp this year, and now this.

I noticed a few weeks ago that Derek Schorejs was with Philly of the Arena League, but also was put on the "failed-to-report" list, whatever that means. (Besides the obvious, of course.

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Warthog · Post by **Warthog** » Mon Jan 17, 2005 2:22 pm

The Sentinel reported last week that he signed a three year deal. That kinda surprised me. He will be playing in NFL europe this spring as well.

hammb · Post by **hammb** » Mon Jan 17, 2005 2:52 pm

Remember Warthog. NFL Contracts, not guaranteed.

Could sign him to a 100 year $4.8 Billion deal, but that doesn't mean he'll see any of it.

UK Peregrine · Post by **UK Peregrine** » Mon Jan 17, 2005 3:06 pm

hammb wrote:Remember Warthog. NFL Contracts, not guaranteed.

Could sign him to a 100 year $4.8 Billion deal, but that doesn't mean he'll see any of it.

This is true and it's the main reason the NHL is on strike. All NHL player contracts are guaranteed, whereas the NFL has non-guaranteed contracts. If an NFL player is not working out, he and his contract can be instantly disposed of. There are a couple of catches to this though, like anything in life.

1. NFL teams are prohibited from terminating non-guaranteed contracts of injured players unless the team and player negotiate a compensation package.

2. Players are free to negotiate guaranteed signing bonuses.

With this all said, I don't know the specifics of Robert's contract. So this info is just educational at best.

Warthog · Post by **Warthog** » Mon Jan 17, 2005 3:09 pm

Right hammb. If you ever read "Tuesday Morning Quarterback" on NFL.com, Gregg Easterbrook likes to point this kinda stuff out. Agents like to stick their chest's out and say I just got my guy signed to a 10 year, $150 mil contract. Then after two years, the guy is such a cap anchor he gets cut after only collecting two years and about $8 mil since most of the contract was bonus and back loaded that the player never sees the big money.

FWIW, I still think it is unusual that a free agent such as Redd was given a three year contract. At any rate, that sounds positive for Redd.

kdog27 · Post by **kdog27** » Mon Jan 17, 2005 3:36 pm

hammb wrote:Remember Warthog. NFL Contracts, not guaranteed.

Could sign him to a 100 year $4.8 Billion deal, but that doesn't mean he'll see any of it.

That is one of the things I like about the NFL. If you don't perform it can be taken away. It sickens me to see those guys in MLB that sign those insanely high contracts than stink it up. I think players should be paid on production and not have their salaries predetermined. I think all players should have the potential to earn the same amount based on what they do. And if they do nothing, they get paid accordingly. I'm dreamin but still.

hammb · Post by **hammb** » Mon Jan 17, 2005 4:36 pm

kdog27 wrote:
hammb wrote:Remember Warthog. NFL Contracts, not guaranteed.

Could sign him to a 100 year $4.8 Billion deal, but that doesn't mean he'll see any of it.
That is one of the things I like about the NFL. If you don't perform it can be taken away. It sickens me to see those guys in MLB that sign those insanely high contracts than stink it up. I think players should be paid on production and not have their salaries predetermined. I think all players should have the potential to earn the same amount based on what they do. And if they do nothing, they get paid accordingly. I'm dreamin but still.

Kdog, I agree with you 100% with one caveat (does that still make it 100%? LOL).

I like the way the NFL is structured, but I think that if you accept that salary structure you must be willing to accept the holdouts that come along with it. If the owners/teams are under almost no obligation to honor that contract, then I think the players should be held to the same standard. Meaning that if a player has a big year, I think he has every right to hold out for a restructured deal gaining him a new signing bonus. I think that's only fair when a down year could result in him losing his job altogether.

The NFL's structure is the best for competitive balance and overall quality of the product. I do wish they'd adopt a few things from the NBA's CBA, but in all the NFL is still the best. Specifically I like the scripted wages for rookies; NBA rooks don't make an absurd amount, NFL rooks do. Oftentimes top 5 picks will be the highest paid guy at their position having not yet played. I'd also like to see some form of the "Larry Bird Rule" implemented in the NFL that would allow some cap flexibility when trying to resign your own players. Something that would allow you to pay your drafted guys a little more. The player can gain some cash, while the club can further benefit from good drafting.

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