Pryor "I Dont like the Not fighting in HS game Rules"
HS coach "Dont worry about following them you're TP"
Pryor "I Dont like the NCAA Rules"
OSU Booster "Dont worry about following them you're TP"
Pryor "I Dont like the practice Rules"
Tressel "Dont worry about following them you're TP"
Pryor "I Dont like the supplemental draft Rules"
Goodell "Dont worry about following them you're TP"
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Terrell Pryor and consequences
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Re: Terrell Pryor and consequences
How does Terrell Pryor get special consideration for the supplemental draft?
He was suspended for the first five games of the 2011 season. No further sanctions against him than sitting out five games.
He quit OSU in early June and was still only suspended for five games in the upcoming season.
He signed with an agent and then declared that he was not going to cooperate with the NCAA any further.
So how did his status change that made him eligible for the supplemental draft. His own actions signing with the agent were not enough for him to be eligible for the draft and "Pryor" to his signing with the agent, he had only been suspended for five games in the 2011 season. He could still have played in the remaining OSU games.
The fact that he was no longer going to cooperate with the NCAA at that stage meant absolutely nothing. He had already signed with an agent and was therefore ineligible to play for OSU (but again, it was his own action that caused him to become ineligible and no outside force).
Pryor should not have been eligible for the supplemental draft according to the NFL rules.
That letter Pryor got from OSU didn't say anything about the NCAA declaring him ineligible for the entire 2011 season based upon his actions he had told them about. And now it appears that Pryor was telling the NCAA that he was a scumbag cheat while he was playing for OSU so that he could get them to declare him ineligible.
I get so p!$$ed when people let "stars" off the hook and give them special considerations that others would not get.
The problem is not the NCAA rule book. The problem is the super-star athlete that does not want to follow the rule book.
Pryor did not follow the rule book from Day 1. Sarniak continued to provide Pryor and his mother money. Pryor signs memorabilia for approx. $20K a year and sells other items he was not permitted to and what happens - he gets a five game suspension and he quits school. Then the NFL says he can play but he has to sit out the first five games. Hell Roger, if you're going to let him in the draft then don't even make him sit out the five games. You made the WRONG decision.
The problem with the NCAA today is that they gave SMU the death penalty and SMU has never recovered from it. Now the pansies in charge of the infractions committee are afraid to do the right thing again. Now the NCAA gives a slap on the wrist and the "Don't do it again" admonishment. Sorry SMU football but that's what happens when you break the rules.
If 70-some Miami players are accepting money from some prisoner, then slap the death penalty on them for two years. Let them try to rebuild their program back to where it was. Don't let those that accepted the monies play college football again. Most of them will not end up in the NFL. Those players that did not take the money would be eligible to transfer to another program. And they need to give that penalty out again and again to those schools that violate the rules.
The rule book is NOT the problem. It's the people wanting to play and not follow the rules. The NCAA needs to step up and begin to enforce and punish. That will take care of a lot of the problems.
He was suspended for the first five games of the 2011 season. No further sanctions against him than sitting out five games.
He quit OSU in early June and was still only suspended for five games in the upcoming season.
He signed with an agent and then declared that he was not going to cooperate with the NCAA any further.
So how did his status change that made him eligible for the supplemental draft. His own actions signing with the agent were not enough for him to be eligible for the draft and "Pryor" to his signing with the agent, he had only been suspended for five games in the 2011 season. He could still have played in the remaining OSU games.
The fact that he was no longer going to cooperate with the NCAA at that stage meant absolutely nothing. He had already signed with an agent and was therefore ineligible to play for OSU (but again, it was his own action that caused him to become ineligible and no outside force).
Pryor should not have been eligible for the supplemental draft according to the NFL rules.
That letter Pryor got from OSU didn't say anything about the NCAA declaring him ineligible for the entire 2011 season based upon his actions he had told them about. And now it appears that Pryor was telling the NCAA that he was a scumbag cheat while he was playing for OSU so that he could get them to declare him ineligible.
I get so p!$$ed when people let "stars" off the hook and give them special considerations that others would not get.
The problem is not the NCAA rule book. The problem is the super-star athlete that does not want to follow the rule book.
Pryor did not follow the rule book from Day 1. Sarniak continued to provide Pryor and his mother money. Pryor signs memorabilia for approx. $20K a year and sells other items he was not permitted to and what happens - he gets a five game suspension and he quits school. Then the NFL says he can play but he has to sit out the first five games. Hell Roger, if you're going to let him in the draft then don't even make him sit out the five games. You made the WRONG decision.
The problem with the NCAA today is that they gave SMU the death penalty and SMU has never recovered from it. Now the pansies in charge of the infractions committee are afraid to do the right thing again. Now the NCAA gives a slap on the wrist and the "Don't do it again" admonishment. Sorry SMU football but that's what happens when you break the rules.
If 70-some Miami players are accepting money from some prisoner, then slap the death penalty on them for two years. Let them try to rebuild their program back to where it was. Don't let those that accepted the monies play college football again. Most of them will not end up in the NFL. Those players that did not take the money would be eligible to transfer to another program. And they need to give that penalty out again and again to those schools that violate the rules.
The rule book is NOT the problem. It's the people wanting to play and not follow the rules. The NCAA needs to step up and begin to enforce and punish. That will take care of a lot of the problems.
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Re: Terrell Pryor and consequences
Well said, Transfer, Well said!!!!!

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"BG was relentless. It's like they know that a good first pass on the breakout from a defenseman will almost always result in an odd-man rush against them - but they go in anyway and dare you to make that pass. All three of their goals were just grit and effort. That's a team any fan can be proud to support...they give all they've got."
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Re: Terrell Pryor and consequences
This is the NCAA's chance with all these teams getting in trouble to send a real message. Give Miami the death penalty and cut 30 scholarships at OSU over three years. If they start handing out penalties like this, all these schools will start policing themselves. If the only penalty OSU gets is a vacated 2010 season than nothing has been accomplished and no message has been recieved. A vacated season means nothing. They still show TP throwing 57 career TDs in all their record books and OSU keeps virtually all their revenue from that season. Guarantee every OSU game this year they will be showing player's stats from last year and/or career numbers that include last year. Vacated season = ridiculous. Means nothing.
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Re: Terrell Pryor and consequences
While I still doubt it would happen, I want this to happen just to see how other programs will respond, hopefully it will put the fear of god into them.kdog27 wrote:Miami the death penalty
Also taking $$$$$ from these programs needs to start happening as well. Taking a bunch of schollies hurts, but taking money needs to happen, these programs will start getting their s**t in order if they start losing cash as a penalty
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Re: Terrell Pryor and consequences
OSU should have to forfeit ALL of their bowl money - money they received for their Sugar Bowl appearance as well as the money they received for the other Big 10-11 schools going to bowl games. And the Big 10-11 could hit them with a fine such as ....no BTN $$$ for the next two or three years.kdog27 wrote:A vacated season means nothing. They still show TP throwing 57 career TDs in all their record books and OSU keeps virtually all their revenue from that season.
Hit'em in the pocketbook.
I would also hit them with a scholarship reduction as well. I am not inclined to serve the "death penalty" on this one as I really believe had the head coach done his job, the problem could have been resolved. Now if further investigation(s) reveal more than what we currently know, I would consider such action.
If I was OSU, I would consider going after Pryor in a lawsuit for the amount of the grant-in-aid that he received since he KNOWINGLY violated NCAA rules by continuing to accept money from Ted Sarniak, KNOWINGLY violated NCAA rules by selling team awards and trinkets, and KNOWINGLY violated NCAA rules with his little memorabilia side deal. I don't care what you say about, "But they were his to sell". According to the NCAA Rule Book, he was not allowed to sell them. "But he didn't know that." BALONEY - quit making excuses for him. The enforcement staff tells them many times again and again that you are not allowed to sell items that you received for playing the game (whether it be gold pants for beating Michigan or the X-Box and the swag received for playing in a bowl game).
I'm sending a letter to Mark Emmert and telling him I want a job with the NCAA Enforcement folks.
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