Toledo Players Have to Go to Class?

[gmartin]

Let's just do some basic math. 100 players and coaches, which may even be under-estimated, but let's just say 100 for sake of argument. Three meals per person so thats 300 meals, and $10.00 a meal. When my wife played college softball they were allowed 15.00 a meal, so 10.00 is a bargain, but just in meal expenses you are looking at $3000.00. Add in $60.00 a room, and that would even be a bargain, they don't stay in a Motel 6, so now in hotel charges you are at $3600.00. So on the low end BG is shelling out about $7000.00 per game. Over 6 home games the university spends roughly $42,000.00 to put up the football players in a hotel for A HOME GAME. I think we could put that money to better use. And that's just for football. Granted in basketball we only have about 25 players and staff but we also have twice as many home games. It is not out of the question that we spend anywhere from $75,000 to $100,00 to put our players up in a hotel for what, A HOME GAME.

[transfer2BGSU]

Over 6 home games the university spends roughly $42,000.00 to put up the football players in a hotel for A HOME GAME. I think we could put that money to better use. And that's just for football.

OR

You give the hotel a free advertisement in your media guide

You direct the visiting teams to the hotel for their players, coaches, staff, parents, and fans

You give the hotel a prominent spot on your ad board

You give the hotel a couple of video promos that run during the game



All four of those can be done without any money exchanging hands.

When I ran track we drove our own cars to away meets and returned the same day.

Grant had me under the impression that you used to ride dinosaurs to school and track meets

[Flipper]

I think the hotel arrangements are probably offset by adspace or other in kind trades between the department and the Hhtel...in BG's case it's the Garden Inn at Levis...still though...might be worth seeing if there is an actual outlay of $$$ for hotels and meals...

[threestooges]

Let's just do some basic math. 100 players and coaches, which may even be under-estimated, but let's just say 100 for sake of argument. Three meals per person so thats 300 meals, and $10.00 a meal. When my wife played college softball they were allowed 15.00 a meal, so 10.00 is a bargain, but just in meal expenses you are looking at $3000.00. Add in $60.00 a room, and that would even be a bargain, they don't stay in a Motel 6, so now in hotel charges you are at $3600.00. So on the low end BG is shelling out about $7000.00 per game. Over 6 home games the university spends roughly $42,000.00 to put up the football players in a hotel for A HOME GAME. I think we could put that money to better use. And that's just for football. Granted in basketball we only have about 25 players and staff but we also have twice as many home games. It is not out of the question that we spend anywhere from $75,000 to $100,00 to put our players up in a hotel for what, A HOME GAME.

I'm about 99% sure that the basketball teams do not stay in a hotel the night before home games. Football is the only team that has ever done so, at least at BGSU.

[gmartin]

When Dan the Man was coach the team stayed in hotel, then in the morning they would have breakfast, film session and then shoot around. I know this is 100 true because I been to the hotel numerous times when the team was there, however, I been down in Indy for 7 years so it is possible things have changed with Coach Orr.

[Oldballcoach61]

We are going to bit@@ that the schools MAY spend $ 45k to $ 50 K a year on taking the players away for game day prep. What is the return that the team gives back to BGSU in exposure and other residual income and benefits? I am shocked that so many would be so short sighted about the actual expense and return.

We always say we want BGSU to be taken as a legit D1 FBS program, but the second we do the same as what ALL other D1 football schools I have ever known do, we are in the wrong. Every D1 school we went to on a recruiting visit told the kids about getting away the night before for all HOME games.

To whine about such a petty issue is embarassing. JMHO

Now lets focus on the task at hand and win the next game on the schedule.

[falconfan1]

vdub is exactly right. The rule has changed and if you host a weeknight game , you must attend all classes scheduled before noon. We will follow the rule and supported its implementation.

The "news" here is that the coach of the team up north is now all over every college football site and every newspaper as whining about this rule and its "impact" on his team's preparations for that night's game. He comes off as a coach who does not have his priorities in the right place .He absolutely shows that his first thought is athlete and is leaving out the student-athlete.

This is not surprising at all.

This will impact the message they send as a football program/university in recruiting. "Mrs Jones, the deal where I said we shouldn't go to class eight hours before kick off: I really was just kidding about that. Seriously. I only said it three times. I know it appeared in The Plain Dealer, SI.com, The Dispatch and the NY Times. But I was misquoted. All three times. In fact, I now have players go to an extra class on those game days. I think. I am checking with my G.A."

Should go over real well.

Go Falcons!

[h2oville rocket]

When I ran track we drove our own cars to away meets and returned the same day.

Grant had me under the impression that you used to ride dinosaurs to school and track meets

Grant lies! Dinosaurs had been extinct for seventeen years when I started at UT.

[Lord_Byron]

When I read it, I pictured H20 and the UT track team tooling around in one of these:

[Flipper]

They wish...TU athletes rolled in this "classic"...

[transfer2BGSU]

I thought these were the UT Athletic vehicles at that time

[h2oville rocket]

I thought these were the UT Athletic vehicles at that time

Dang, those are sweet. But how do you start them? I don't see where the crank goes.

[unfalconbelievable]

Great Rule!

Somebody in a high place actually had some fore sight to see shrinking budgets and less scholarships to athletes to see that this money can be used in a better way.

Not all sports have this rule, many other sports on weekday home games have to go to class.

Seriously, STUDENT-athlete, go to class.

[factman]

Believe me, ther are a lot of other ways that ALL D-1 football teams waste money, including BGSU.

[hammb]

I guess I'll take the other side on this one. I think it's a stupid rule for the MAC. I would fully support the rule if it were legislated across all of the NCAA, but I think it's stupid for the MAC. Yes, it sounds awesome to say that we take academics more seriously than the big boys, or whatever, but I don't like anything that furthers the gulf between the MAC and the BCS conferences. It may be petty and it may not amount to much, but I could still see this being brought up by low tier BCS schools in recruiting wars.

"Come to Indiana where we compete in the Big 10 and still treat football like a priority, or go to BG where you have to go to Class on a gameday!"

That being said, I think this SHOULD be a rule across the board. I'm just not a fan of conference only rules that could, even in some small way, hurt them competitively.