WCHA Bound???

BGFan · Post by **BGFan** » Wed Sep 28, 2011 11:46 am

Keep in mind that the CCHA started with only 4 teams. Bowling Green, Ohio State, St. Louis, and Ohio University. My feeling is if we can get enough teams to maintain the league moving forward, the CCHA can return to prominance over time. Nobody thought that this league was relevent many years prior to 1984. The past has a funny way of repeating itself.

Falcon Fanatic · Post by **Falcon Fanatic** » Thu Sep 29, 2011 10:58 pm

Kevin Gordon's editorial:

http://www.sent-trib.com/bgsu-sports/ho ... bg-9-29-11

Thoughts?

factman · Post by **factman** » Fri Sep 30, 2011 3:03 am

I agree with about 99.9% of what he says!

pdt1081 · Post by **pdt1081** » Fri Sep 30, 2011 5:40 am

Falcon Fanatic wrote:Kevin Gordon's editorial:

http://www.sent-trib.com/bgsu-sports/ho ... bg-9-29-11

Thoughts?

He doesn't give enough credit to the Atlantic Hockey schools. We should not be looking down our noses at any team.

He talks about lack of facilities, yet fails to mention the possibility of Canisius getting a brand new NHL practice rink on campus.

Rightupinthere · Post by **Rightupinthere** » Fri Sep 30, 2011 6:05 am

Falcon Fanatic wrote:Kevin Gordon's editorial:

http://www.sent-trib.com/bgsu-sports/ho ... bg-9-29-11

Thoughts?

If I close my eyes, I can just picture a BCS fan. He throws out quite a bit of information which was unsubstantiated. Angering alumnus? Proof? Names?
Angering the WCHA? Then why did they give us an extension?
Travel to AH schools isn't any easier. Buffalo NY versus Bemidji MN? I've driven to Bemidji, folks. It aint no [sic] shuffle off to Buffalo.
BG has its eyes set on joining the NCHC - that's the first I've heard of this.
20 wins only gets you 20 wins against inferior teams..........and a trip to the NCAA. So, where would a recruit want to play? He forgets that if we bring in AHA schools it's going to be INTO the CCHA not BG going into the AHA.

It's a rather myopic piece which has tons of hyperbole but very little substance. I'm split on which is better. Bringing AHA schools in to salvage the CCHA is good from an immediate win and travel standpoint. It's also GREAT for me living on the East side of Cleveland. Joining the WCHA gets us the ability to win in a better conference but travel would literally kill the budget without alumni help.

Falcon Fanatic · Post by **Falcon Fanatic** » Fri Sep 30, 2011 7:29 am

Rightupinthere wrote:
Falcon Fanatic wrote:Kevin Gordon's editorial:

http://www.sent-trib.com/bgsu-sports/ho ... bg-9-29-11

Thoughts?
If I close my eyes, I can just picture a BCS fan. He throws out quite a bit of information which was unsubstantiated. Angering alumnus? Proof? Names?
Angering the WCHA? Then why did they give us an extension?
Travel to AH schools isn't any easier. Buffalo NY versus Bemidji MN? I've driven to Bemidji, folks. It aint no [sic] shuffle off to Buffalo.
BG has its eyes set on joining the NCHC - that's the first I've heard of this.
20 wins only gets you 20 wins against inferior teams..........and a trip to the NCAA. So, who where would a recruit want to play? He forgets that if we bring in AHA schools it's going to be INTO the CCHA not BG going into the AHA.

It's a rather myopic piece which has tons of hyperbole but very little substance. I'm split on which is better. Bringing AHA schools in to salvage the CCHA is good from an immediate win and travel standpoint. It's also GREAT for me living on the East side of Cleveland. Joining the WCHA gets us the ability to win in a better conference but travel would literally kill the budget without alumni help.

100% agree RUIT! I didn't agree with much of what he said.

GO FALCON HOCKEY!!
PUCK DROPS IN 2 DAYS!!!

joehockey · Post by **joehockey** » Fri Sep 30, 2011 12:04 pm

I think Kevin Gordon is generally a pretty good reporter of all things Falcon hockey but I have to say I completely disagree with the way his article was written. It seemed more like rambling and frustrated opinions of fans on this forum then anything else. He did make some valid points, but left to many open ended questions with not enough info to back up his claims. Either way, I hope a decision comes soon! NCHC would work just fine for me!

Falcon1970 · Post by **Falcon1970** » Fri Sep 30, 2011 3:06 pm

One of the single most important facts was left out that article. These 4 Atlantic Schools, each are making serious improvements to their programs. Increases in full scholarship funding are huge. The NCAA qualifier is another, from recruiting on down.
While it would essentially be a brand new conference, it would be highly competitive, and should not be glared upon.
Now if BG were to be surrendering 4 scholarships, that would of course be a very different story. I honestly feel that the new W, is going to be to large, and you will see 4 prime schools on the surface and the rest left far behind. Just my perspective.

Flipper · Post by **Flipper** » Fri Sep 30, 2011 4:00 pm

I think we should take as much time as we need to fully explore our options....if the WCHA has a problem with us doing so, too damn bad for them....

Drago · Post by **Drago** » Fri Sep 30, 2011 7:33 pm

I thought the article was right on. I don't think either option of joining WCHA or adding 4 Atlantic Hockey teams and Buffalo are good ones. The WCHA provides the most stability, but travel will be bad for the team. Either way attendence is going to drop, but the "new" CCHA will destroy it. Joining with those schools will make BG Hockey draw less than mens and womens bball. We are talking crowds of 1200 being big crowds. Just my opinion.

pdt1081 · Post by **pdt1081** » Fri Sep 30, 2011 7:51 pm

Drago wrote:I thought the article was right on. I don't think either option of joining WCHA or adding 4 Atlantic Hockey teams and Buffalo are good ones. The WCHA provides the most stability, but travel will be bad for the team. Either way attendence is going to drop, but the "new" CCHA will destroy it. Joining with those schools will make BG Hockey draw less than mens and womens bball. We are talking crowds of 1200 being big crowds. Just my opinion.

I've seen large crowds for Ferris State and LSSU. Who has heard of them before they got to BG? If you win, they (the crowds) will come. That is the bottom line. Bowling Green is a hockey town. Otherwise, explain how the worst seasons for hockey have still out drawn both men's and women's basketball.

falconfan1 · Post by **falconfan1** » Fri Sep 30, 2011 8:30 pm

rightupin, I could not agree more w your analysis. We may join the WCHA. We may lead a new CCHA. In either case, we play for a title and an NCAA berth. That is crucial. We will be fine. But to throw the "east/combo" option under the bus like that? Don't agree at all. But it's an editorial and his opinion. Which is fine. I just don't agree with it.

Go Falcons!

falconfan1999 · Post by **falconfan1999** » Fri Sep 30, 2011 9:59 pm

I think at this point, BGSU needs to be concerned with $$$$, before wins. The wins will come, as long as the financial commitment remains!

rally · Post by **rally** » Sat Oct 01, 2011 9:53 am

I have to agree with the comments above. The casual hockey fans in the stands won't know a Mercyhurst from a Mankato or a Buffalo from a Bemidji. They attend for the hockey experience and to see a win. Winning will take care of a lot of issues including attendance and finances. Personally, I find the prospects of a new-look CCHA (or whatever) rather exciting, having watched the old one grow from nothing to national power.

Freddie · Post by **Freddie** » Sun Oct 02, 2011 12:28 pm

rally wrote:I have to agree with the comments above. The casual hockey fans in the stands won't know a Mercyhurst from a Mankato or a Buffalo from a Bemidji. They attend for the hockey experience and to see a win. Winning will take care of a lot of issues including attendance and finances. Personally, I find the prospects of a new-look CCHA (or whatever) rather exciting, having watched the old one grow from nothing to national power.

Ditto!

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