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BGGrad01 wrote:Regarding QB play, I think Schilz is solid throwing it, but the read play isn't an option because he isn't a running threat. Next year without Cooper, Jorden, Hodges, and Hutson, we're going to have Schilz throwing to young wide receivers and Samuel carrying it 25 times a game. We're going to be limited in what we can do and I would much rather have an athletic quarterback that gives us a threat in the run game even if we sacrifice some of the passing game.
I agree. Is that Hurley or Johnson? You owe it to Hurley to give him a chance.

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BGGrad ... that's been bugging me today too. I'm not really sure why the coaching staff is having the corners so far off the receivers. It's good to respect these receivers, but a great way to help develop these corners is to force them to play tight with the best receivers in the conference. The plan I suppose is to limit the deep passes but they're giving up short stuff left and right.
I remember last year against Marshall, Kamar was catching five-and-outs and ten-and-outs like it was his job. The corners were lining up like ten yards off of him and giving him all the cushion he needed. The godawful announcers were saying that Kamar was stealing yards, that he was stepping in the supermarket and walking away with a loaf of bread. Same thing's happening here .... I just don't get it.
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BGGrad01 wrote:I agree with some of the posts that our defense is more athletic than years past, but I don't think the best athletes on that side are given the chance to use it. Our corners are 8-10 yards off the line and moving back at the snap and the safeties are 15 yards off and moving back. If Harnish breaks the line, he has 10-12 yards every time because the safeties are so deep. Bring the boys up closer to the line and let the corners play some press coverage. Perfect example right there - 10 yard pass WIDE OPEN because of the scheme.
x1 our game plan seems awful.
Pick your poison...Our defensive scheme all year has been to play soft zone coverage. While I agree that you need to play press coverage and put 8 guys in the box against some teams...this is not the team to do it against.

Unlike Temple, NIU can throw. You'll see 80 yard bombs instead of 10-15 yard runs/passes.

Unfortunately NIU just has better athletes than we do right now.
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Thankfully there is a competitive game on ESPNU tonight.
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mc3022 wrote:
Globetrotter wrote:
BGGrad01 wrote:I agree with some of the posts that our defense is more athletic than years past, but I don't think the best athletes on that side are given the chance to use it. Our corners are 8-10 yards off the line and moving back at the snap and the safeties are 15 yards off and moving back. If Harnish breaks the line, he has 10-12 yards every time because the safeties are so deep. Bring the boys up closer to the line and let the corners play some press coverage. Perfect example right there - 10 yard pass WIDE OPEN because of the scheme.
x1 our game plan seems awful.
Pick your poison...Our defensive scheme all year has been to play soft zone coverage. While I agree that you need to play press coverage and put 8 guys in the box against some teams...this is not the team to do it against.

Unlike Temple, NIU can throw. You'll see 80 yard bombs instead of 10-15 yard runs/passes.

Unfortunately NIU just has better athletes than we do right now.
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We are in that awful team cliche where our punter is our MVP. We gain nothing from playing Schilz the rest of this game.
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Shilz is good when his first option is there. If he has to step up, scramble or simply wait it's usually not pretty.

The part of him I like the least is is his lack of emotion. I never see a pinch of emotion from him. Act like Brett Favre once in awhile.
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Clawson's guys are Jr's and RS soph's...

The DB's playing off the ball has been a thorn in my side all year. How many times are we 10 yards off the ball on 3rd 5-6?
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Flipper wrote:Clawson's guys are Jr's and RS soph's...

The DB's playing off the ball has been a thorn in my side all year. How many times are we 10 yards off the ball on 3rd 5-6?
Good point Flipper...that shouldn't happen
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My daughter wants the "Broski" scarf from the WWE shop...that worries me far more than this game
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mc3022 wrote:Unlike Temple, NIU can throw. You'll see 80 yard bombs instead of 10-15 yard runs/passes.

Unfortunately NIU just has better athletes than we do right now.
I agree with you that we're outmanned here, but I would much rather force their QB to make a 30 yard downfield throw consistently than give him 10 yards every time he wants to throw it and much more open field to run when they run the zone read. The 2 long pass plays were just bad reads by the safeties, not necessarily because the corners were in tight coverage.

I didn't see the Temple game, but I assume that we played a bunch of guys in the box because we knew they couldn't hurt us with the pass. NIU has the threats in the run and pass game and it looks like we'd rather give up 15 yards at a time instead of 75.
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Flipper wrote:My daughter wants the "Broski" scarf from the WWE shop...that worries me far more than this game
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kdog27 wrote:Shilz is good when his first option is there. If he has to step up, scramble or simply wait it's usually not pretty.

The part of him I like the least is is his lack of emotion. I never see a pinch of emotion from him. Act like Brett Favre once in awhile.
I see that as well...your QB needs to be the leader of the team. You don't see Schillz take charge of his offense like Harnish or Carder does.
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Losing 5 of your last 6, 4 of which are to conference foes is an indictment on the program. This team is a long, long way from competing for a MAC title.
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We are going to see more of the same from Ohio next week. OU runs the pistol, Tettleton can run but still airs it out, they use a lot of misdirection and zone reads.
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