6 walk-off defeats in under 2 seasons

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Re: 6 walk-off defeats in under 2 seasons

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gmartin wrote:and don't forget Idaho the year before on the last play of the game going for 2
Yeah, the Blade said that in our last 24 games, 7 have been decided on the last play, and we are 0-7 in those games.

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BGSU33 wrote:BG is now 4-11 in one-scores games under Clawson and we've had no MAC Championship appearances and mad on bowl game. For comparison sake with our opponent tonight, Ohio is 10-6 in one-score games the last three years under Solich making three bowls and two MAC Championship appearances. The bottom line is, good teams find ways to win. These kind of games will make or break your season.
So we were no good under Meyer (no championships and no bowl appearances) but were good under Brandon (MAC East title and several bowl appearances).

Then why did everyone want to keep Meyer and fire Brandon?
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From an Adminisrtative standpoint, you can't go looking for a coach when your current coach is still in place. I like Clawson, he will get this turned around. I just wish there was more fire in this team.
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Flipper wrote:We sucked last year..this year we're a cut below the top teams in the MAC...we've played them all...and on the cusp of being a good team. We'll see if we can get over the hump....
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Frustrating and a few mistakes made the difference. I had Temple and Ohio as wins this year and it seemed like 1 turnover away from that happening. We still need leadership at each position to keep the focus and competitive level of play. I seem to remember Solich's teams being inconsistent his first few years but I could be wrong.

I'm really looking forward to the defense next year. Our DB's, Jones, & Woods (and a few other surprises), a year in the weight room, and we are going to take a big step forward.

We should have more depth at the OL & RB, and a few new WR to unwrap. I wish Shilz could spend some time with Yoda so he could better sense the guy coming behind him, but the competition will increase next year.

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Clawson is a conservative coach and so you get close losses, much like you see in NFL games. Not once under the current staff has the program blown anyone out at the FBS level. The coaching staff coaches with no killer instinct and it bleeds through to the players.
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Re: 6 walk-off defeats in under 2 seasons

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Flipper wrote:We play hard...we just don't play well when we need to...
As far as last night goes...

This game was potentially lost by two coaching decisions, not because the players gave it up in the last quarter -- although having this consistently happen IS a reflection of poor coaching, in my opinion.

Last night right before half, BG was driving and had just completed a pass to the Ohio 28 yard line with about 38 seconds to go. BG had two times out.

Instead of using one there and taking a few more shots to try and score a TD or get in position for a FG, they tried to save the time out (why?) and went hurry up. After 11 second had run off the clock, BG got penalized for a false start.

To avoid a 10 second run off they had to use one of the two time outs. This also meant BG was forced to try and make up ground more quickly and on the next pass, Schilz threw that very poor pass under pressure and it was returned deep into BG territory, allowing Ohio to kick the go ahead FG (and winning points) as time ran out.

Prior to that, BG had stopped Ohio on a 3rd and 9 for what would have been a 39 yard field goal. Ohio was flagged for holding and instead of moving them back 10 more yards, BG declined the penalty and allowed the easier kick, which was made.

Why? Did the coaches really believe their defense couldn't stop a 3rd and 19?

Both of those coaching decisions were mind boggling and cost BG six critical points. It's stuff like this DURING a game that gets forgotten often when a game goes to the final play.

BG lost last night's game well before that final drive and Clawson's fingerprints were all over it.
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The 39 yd FG would have been good from 50...so it didn't cost us any points...but yeah, that was a head scratcher. Based on the reaction from the staff...I think they wanted to get in closer before burning the TO's...they wanted to run a fastball pace and our guys didn't get the memo...
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jpfalcon09 wrote:Clawson is a conservative coach and so you get close losses, much like you see in NFL games. Not once under the current staff has the program blown anyone out at the FBS level. The coaching staff coaches with no killer instinct and it bleeds through to the players.

I tend to agree...we're a passive team. On offense we don't pressure the defense down field enough and on defense we almost never play a press coverage and our pass rush is non-existant outside of Jones.
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BGWriter wrote:
Flipper wrote:We play hard...we just don't play well when we need to...
As far as last night goes...

This game was potentially lost by two coaching decisions, not because the players gave it up in the last quarter -- although having this consistently happen IS a reflection of poor coaching, in my opinion.

Last night right before half, BG was driving and had just completed a pass to the Ohio 28 yard line with about 38 seconds to go. BG had two times out.

Instead of using one there and taking a few more shots to try and score a TD or get in position for a FG, they tried to save the time out (why?) and went hurry up. After 11 second had run off the clock, BG got penalized for a false start.

To avoid a 10 second run off they had to use one of the two time outs. This also meant BG was forced to try and make up ground more quickly and on the next pass, Schilz threw that very poor pass under pressure and it was returned deep into BG territory, allowing Ohio to kick the go ahead FG (and winning points) as time ran out.

Prior to that, BG had stopped Ohio on a 3rd and 9 for what would have been a 39 yard field goal. Ohio was flagged for holding and instead of moving them back 10 more yards, BG declined the penalty and allowed the easier kick, which was made.

Why? Did the coaches really believe their defense couldn't stop a 3rd and 19?

Both of those coaching decisions were mind boggling and cost BG six critical points. It's stuff like this DURING a game that gets forgotten often when a game goes to the final play.

BG lost last night's game well before that final drive and Clawson's fingerprints were all over it.
I was at a place where I could not hear the game. I assumed that both plays were done because of some reason I could not here, because in each situation it was obvious to ANYONE that you go in the other direction without extenuating circumstances.
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BGWriter wrote:
Flipper wrote:We play hard...we just don't play well when we need to...
As far as last night goes...

This game was potentially lost by two coaching decisions, not because the players gave it up in the last quarter -- although having this consistently happen IS a reflection of poor coaching, in my opinion.

Last night right before half, BG was driving and had just completed a pass to the Ohio 28 yard line with about 38 seconds to go. BG had two times out.

Instead of using one there and taking a few more shots to try and score a TD or get in position for a FG, they tried to save the time out (why?) and went hurry up. After 11 second had run off the clock, BG got penalized for a false start.

To avoid a 10 second run off they had to use one of the two time outs. This also meant BG was forced to try and make up ground more quickly and on the next pass, Schilz threw that very poor pass under pressure and it was returned deep into BG territory, allowing Ohio to kick the go ahead FG (and winning points) as time ran out.

Prior to that, BG had stopped Ohio on a 3rd and 9 for what would have been a 39 yard field goal. Ohio was flagged for holding and instead of moving them back 10 more yards, BG declined the penalty and allowed the easier kick, which was made.

Why? Did the coaches really believe their defense couldn't stop a 3rd and 19?

Both of those coaching decisions were mind boggling and cost BG six critical points. It's stuff like this DURING a game that gets forgotten often when a game goes to the final play.

BG lost last night's game well before that final drive and Clawson's fingerprints were all over it.
The 3rd and 9 with the holding call was probably a smart move, although I think it was 3rd and longer. I've seen us accept penalties like that and then screw-up on defense. The correct move is to take 4th and long instead of 3rd and longer, because on 3rd and longer the opposition gets another opportunity to either get a first down or get a closer field goal attempt. They could also be stuck with a longer attempt, but do you take that chance?

The series at the end of the first half was a wise choice, but the false start killed it.
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I think you should always take the penalty if it pushes them beyond make-able fg range. Not sure that one did last night but I would have taken the penalty. I definitely think we screwed up by not using our timeouts.
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Yeah...take the penalty. You have a great chance of a sack or an interception in third and a whole bunch type situations. Especially since Tettleton made several gaffe's last night.

But as far as losing another walk-off. I know I looked this up a couple months ago, but I could not find one victory in BG's history that was won on a last play field goal, even counting the overtime games.
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@ BGWriter - Why [did they allow the easier field goal and decline the 10yd penalty]? Did the coaches really believe their defense couldn't stop a 3rd and 19?

To be brutally honest, I'm never sure of our defense's ability to stop a 3rd and 19. And in all honesty, 39yd field goals are probably a < 50% proposition for most of the teams in the conference. I understand the logic behind that decision.
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We are also 0-7 in games we have lost this year!
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