Akron fires coach

[Globetrotter]

Dunno BGDrew, Tressel might treat a MAC team like Akron as a temporary home to reestablish himself ... and Akron probably wouldn't mind having a rent-a-coach like Tressel.

No MAC, Con USA, Sun Belt or WAC team should mind having a guy like Tressell come in and completely elevate their program. It would be a tremendous hire.

[Flipper]

You will never convince me that hiring a guy who has never been able to color within the lines of the rulebook is the path to elevating your program

[Falcon Commander]

per Tressel, on Columbus radio today . . . the rumor he is going to Akron is, not true.

[Globetrotter]

You will never convince me that hiring a guy who has never been able to color within the lines of the rulebook is the path to elevating your program

I am willing to forgive his previous issues if it means having a legitimate program at BG. He would change the entire landscape of the University in a positive way.

[Flipper]

We have a legitimate program....to suggest otherwise is insulting to the people who played and coached here presently and in the past.

[kdog27]

You will never convince me that hiring a guy who has never been able to color within the lines of the rulebook is the path to elevating your program

I am willing to forgive his previous issues if it means having a legitimate program at BG. He would change the entire landscape of the University in a positive way.

For a guy who hates OSU so much you sure are gravitated towards their coach and the way they conduct business.

[Globetrotter]

We have a legitimate program....to suggest otherwise is insulting to the people who played and coached here presently and in the past.

Maybe competitive is a better word. Not just every once in awhile in the MAC.

And I think the way things are going the haves are certainly separating themselves from the have nots.

[Globetrotter]

You will never convince me that hiring a guy who has never been able to color within the lines of the rulebook is the path to elevating your program

I am willing to forgive his previous issues if it means having a legitimate program at BG. He would change the entire landscape of the University in a positive way.

For a guy who hates OSU so much you sure are gravitated towards their coach and the way they conduct business.

To be honest I think what he did happens at every school in the country. I think the reward is clear and the risk is small.

[1987alum]

You will never convince me that hiring a guy who has never been able to color within the lines of the rulebook is the path to elevating your program

I am willing to forgive his previous issues if it means having a legitimate program at BG. He would change the entire landscape of the University in a positive way.

I am a firm believe in second chances, but I don't agree with much of this post.

As Flipper suggests, we already have a "legitimate" program. I agree that he would change the entire landscape of the University, but do NOT agree that it would be in a positive way.

Zero State forgave his "previous issues" and while they got a National Championship out of it, that was balanced with the shame of how he ran the program, and what's been made public is probably less than half of it.

I agree with Flip - the guy has proven that he can't play by the rules. That's not the kind of person we need running our football program.

[Globetrotter]

You will never convince me that hiring a guy who has never been able to color within the lines of the rulebook is the path to elevating your program

I am willing to forgive his previous issues if it means having a legitimate program at BG. He would change the entire landscape of the University in a positive way.

I am a firm believer in second chances, but I don't agree with much of this post.

As Flipper suggests, we already have a "legitimate" program. I agree that he would change the entire landscape of the University, but do NOT agree that it would be in a positive way.

Zero State forgave his "previous issues" and while they got a National Championship out of it, that was balanced with the shame of how he ran the program, and what's been made public is probably less than half of it.

I agree with Flip - the guy has proven that he can't play by the rules. That's not the kind of person we need running our football program.

What effect has this "shame" had on OSU?

Still selling out games, still got the best coach not currently employed to go there. They went 6-6 for one season, We have not gone 6-6 in the MAC for the past 2.

No matter how you think Tressell should be remembered, he is still viewed as more of a choir boy then a snake salesmen. He gave his time and money to tons of charities and his focus-atleast on the surface-was trying to make his players into men. The guys who played for him would still do anything for him. Heck he was even trying to help Maurice Clarrett as recently as last year

Currently we don't hold a legitimate position in the college football landscape. We pay about the least for a coach in the entire country, we are lucky to get also rans in BCS conferences to play in our stadium, our stadium is 1/3rd filled if we are lucky many games. You add Tressell and he puts a positive stamp on the school and the program that no one else could. We immediately get coaches and recruits to play here that would scoff at the idea currently. He would help put butts in the seats and better opponents on the field. He is a program changer, and in a good way.

You act like we are selling our soul to the devil here. I just don't see what he did and has done as that awful.

[hammb]

You act like we are selling our soul to the devil here. I just don't see what he did and has done as that awful.

He cheats. He sells his programs' souls to the devil to WIN. He's never won a damn thing without cheating, and he probably never will. Hell he hasn't even been able to recruit a decent QB without THEM becoming cheaters.

Tressel molds boys in to men? Bull-effing-s**t he does. He takes boys that are used to getting gifts and privileges and teaches them that they can go the rest of their lives with that same sense of entitlement because they're good at football.

Jim Tressel should never coach again. He's as much of a cheat at the NCAA level as anybody. There aren't many coaches who sustain major violations at multiple schools and get coaching jobs. I don't care that he wins I'd rather have a clean losing program than win with that scoundrel in charge.

And I value wins pretty damn highly.

Personally, I'd much rather see us drop football entirely than hire Jim Tressel. Given the state of our athletic department, I think we'd be better off without football anyways, but sure as hell would if Jim Tressel is in charge of the program.

[Flipper]

Not a snake-oil salesman? The guy rigged raffles at his camp to screw the "regular" kids in favor of the "blue chippers"...you don't get much slimier on a personal, roots of your personality level than that.

And what does "competitive" mean? Within the past 10 years we've been nationally ranked, won bowl games and had our QB featured prominently in national publications and pre-season Heisman discussion.
And that was accomplished before we had the Sebo Center and the other enhancements to the stadium and campus at large. We have the tools...we're "good enough" to be relevant nationally...we've done it. We don't need to whore ourselves out to some hypocrite...some sleazeball..to get us where we've alrerady been

[TG1996]

At the risk of being clique-y, Flipper and hammb are right.

[Globetrotter]

Not a snake-oil salesman? The guy rigged raffles at his camp to screw the "regular" kids in favor of the "blue chippers"...you don't get much slimier on a personal, roots of your personality level than that.

And what does "competitive" mean? Within the past 10 years we've been nationally ranked, won bowl games and had our QB featured prominently in national publications and pre-season Heisman discussion.
And that was accomplished before we had the Sebo Center and the other enhancements to the stadium and campus at large. We have the tools...we're "good enough" to be relevant nationally...we've done it. We don't need to whore ourselves out to some hypocrite...some sleazeball..to get us where we've alrerady been

The raffle thing was said by an un named source and never confirmed. Much of the SI article is the same. I agree thats pretty awful, however, if true. But my bet is that it is par for the course.

For me "competitive" means that we have a legitimate chance to play with big boys. I disagree with this "Within the past 10 years we've been nationally ranked, won bowl games and had our QB featured prominently in national publications and pre-season Heisman discussion. And that was accomplished before we had the Sebo Center and the other enhancements to the stadium and campus at large. We have the tools...we're "good enough" to be relevant nationally...we've done it." We don't have the tools. The Sebo center is an improvement but when there are 10 fans at games mostly wearing OSU gear it won't help that much. BGSU is becoming less and less of a draw, we don't pay our coaches competitively and our relevance is next to none. We are not really on the national map at all. Right now the most we can hope for is a MAC championship, which does not mean much to me. Sure it's great to have but at this point if BG and the rest of the MAC joined some sort of sub-bowl conference with the Sun Belt and the WAC very few people would blink an eye. We have a very limited fan base and our own students cheer for another team in the state. If the conferences started to make mega conferences I don't really see what makes us stnad out and get one of the seats when the music stops.

Whenever I tell someone my favorite team is BG I get 2 questions 1) What is your real favorite team in terms of competitiveness? or/and 2) are they Division 1? I think that changes with Jim Tressell. That is what I mean by legitimacy. Legitimacy is not having the disucssion about whether or not you should go down a division or have a football program at all.

[Flipper]

How can you disagree that we've been nationally ranked? We have been... You can't say we don't have the tools...clearly we do because we've achieved everything you want except having more fans in the stands. If you need more people validating your choice of schools to be happy...well..that's more your issue than the University's