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I think we need to do a better job getting fans. That should be the number one thing we look at. Hire a minor league baseball marketing guru to help us figure out how to get buts in seats. Try everything. The problem with BG in the MAC is that they try to do things just like the big boys as if they are playing by the same rules.

Also there are people out there who think that MAC football is a great product that I have not seen chime in here. I will be excited to see what Flipper thinks about this, among others. We talked about this a little in the Jim Tressell thread. (I think its really interesting that people seem to be more willing to go down a division then hire Jim Tressell. Not to take this down another path)
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Yes the MAC is basically at the bottom of the 1-A (I still don't call is FCS and FBS)...Why not try to team up with the other Non BCS conferences create a new level? In between the BCS and 1-AA? I mean, how many bowl games do we need? I can see an argument for playing up to 15 games and playoffs for a national championship. 1-A has become somewhat of a farce anyway the way it's stacked for the BCS leagues. On the other hand, I like the fact the MAC is 1-A...even if barely by some standards. We're in a challenging position, no question. I still believe MAC football is quality football. It isn't nearly as good as the BCS conferences but does that make the MAC awful football? No. There are plenty of quality players and coaches in the league.

I'll support Falcon Football no matter what conference, division, level, whatever....

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I have started a thread in the football forum about this subject.

http://www.ay-ziggy-zoomba.com/phpBB3/v ... =3&t=28864
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Interesting fact: If you throw out the Howard game for the Men's basketball team and the Purdue game for the Women's basketball team (both Stroh openers), and take attendance average for the rest of the games for Men's basketball, Women's Basketball, and Hockey, you would find that Hockey has the highest average (1571) over BOTH Men's Basketball (1380) and Women's Basketball (1416). Now....is that butts in seats, or tickets sold? How do we explain this? Is it because people make a choice to attend Men's or Women's games, but not both? I think we have fans who are loyal to one team and not the rest, and fans who are loyal to all teams. It just so happens that Hockey ends up being the one with the most loyal fans. I know this is a real small sample size because I have only taken the 2011-12 schedules into consideration AND I have not factored in what effect moving to the Stroh has had on attendance (good or bad), but it seems pretty drastic to want to do something negative with the Hockey program. I for one believe that we can/will become more competitive in the next couple of years.
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7rickyd wrote: Is it because people make a choice to attend Men's or Women's games, but not both?
I first choose whether to spend our money on a BGSU sporting event or any number of other things that I have more than a casual interest in. Once that choice was made, I confess more of a love for basketball than hockey or football. And, as you indicated, I then made a choice between men's and women's. Having said that, I think the university / Athletic department already did something negative to the Hockey program, and I look forward to their becoming better and better. We may never return to the Glory Days, but perhaps we can create new Glory Days for this generation.
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I get the feeling that the basketball team will have this problem soon. Guys like Oglesby, Crawford, Clarke and Calhoun will get butts in seats. They are all "you gotta see this guy" types of players. The more we get of them the more we get butts in seats.
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Globetrotter wrote:I get the feeling that the basketball team will have this problem soon. Guys like Oglesby, Crawford, Clarke and Calhoun will get butts in seats. They are all "you gotta see this guy" types of players. The more we get of them the more we get butts in seats.
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"Butts in Seats" should be the initiative for every sport at BGSU. Dollar days is a start but they under-priced the event. $5 seats and $1 dogs, popcorn and small drinks would have been the better point. By going all the way down to $1 tickets they have made it that much more difficult to ever sell $14 tickets.

Time to reserve cheap seats in all venues for all games to get people in and provide cheap concessions with the hope that the $6 nachos, $5 brats, $4 Frackolate chip cookies or $15 t-shirts will look good enough to open wallets.

And definitely get that minor league baseball promotions guy because there are so many other things that can be done.
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$1 admission for students. Free if their face is painted orange. Sitting should not be permitted in the students' section. Get a decibel meter and display the reading. Free orange wigs.
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Students are free already. But I like the giveaway ideas. Giveaway a scholarship for a quarter to every home football game to a student.
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BleedOrange wrote:$1 admission for students. Free if their face is painted orange. Sitting should not be permitted in the students' section. Get a decibel meter and display the reading. Free orange wigs.
You mean the 50% + of their general fee isn't enough to pay??? That is minimum of $341.50 per student ($683 divided by 2) times 15000 undergraduates or so. That means BGSU undergraduate students supply around 5 MILLION of the departments budget (hopefully my math is correct)! For this they get in to all regular season sporting events. They have paid their admission even if they don't use it as much as we would all like.
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To answer the question to the title of this thread: WIN! Also add in: 1968 and no MAC Tournament title. Until we get back to being a factor in the MAC, or heck, even the MAC East, we're going to struggle like we have for much of the last decade. I will keep coming and keep following us, but many others won't. Win, and they will come. Stumbling along like we have been doing for about a decade, and they will find 100 other thing to do. If we continue to produce poor results like we have, we could give all tickets away for free and still get small crowds. But if we become good and start winning, we could charge $15-$20 a ticket and pull them in. The bottom line is, people want to come watch a winner. Period. This problem isn't going to go away until we start winning, it's as simple as that.
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BGSU33 wrote:To answer the question to the title of this thread: WIN! Also add in: 1968 and no MAC Tournament title. Until we get back to being a factor in the MAC, or heck, even the MAC East, we're going to struggle like we have for much of the last decade. I will keep coming and keep following us, but many others won't. Win, and they will come. Stumbling along like we have been doing for about a decade, and they will find 100 other thing to do. If we continue to produce poor results like we have, we could give all tickets away for free and still get small crowds. But if we become good and start winning, we could charge $15-$20 a ticket and pull them in. The bottom line is, people want to come watch a winner. Period. This problem isn't going to go away until we start winning, it's as simple as that.
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BGSU33 wrote:To answer the question to the title of this thread: WIN! Also add in: 1968 and no MAC Tournament title. Until we get back to being a factor in the MAC, or heck, even the MAC East, we're going to struggle like we have for much of the last decade. I will keep coming and keep following us, but many others won't. Win, and they will come.
Wish that were true.

The 2008-09 team won the regular season MAC title. It didn't equate to more butts in the seat during the season or the season after.
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Evidently we are not the only ones that have trouble drawing. Looks like the scuds are having a BIG problem selling bowl tickets They have only sold 1200 so far and that inlcudes coaches and player tickets! It's even drivable to Washington DC!!

We could sell that many to Zimbabwe! ;)

http://ncaabbs.com/showthread.php?tid=542495&page=2
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