As reported on a rival board...

[Schadenfreude]

Where did this guy get all this information from? Does anyone have a link?

The Bowling Green Municipal Court's Web site includes a searchable index.

[Rightupinthere]

Can we just all take a deep breath?

Isn't it enough to rest quietly secure in the knowledge that our university is more selective and more reputable than Toledo? That our athletic department has never been guilty of a major NCAA infraction?

Isn't it enough to just know this?

Is it really necessary for some of us to go further by pointing to the mistakes made by some of the other young men who play in our conference, lord it over them, and try to bootstrap it into some sort of moral superiority?

Maybe it's me... but I find it really tedious.

Young men make mistakes. I made them. Today's young men make them, too. Some of these young men play football at Toledo. Some of them play football at Bowling Green.

Look, I do agree that the fact that a Toledo player was recently busted for dealing Oxy is worthy of note.

But we probably disagree on why.

I think it's significant because selling Oxy is an incredibly redneck thing to do.

After all the stupid farm and tractor jokes that have been hurled our way from the nroth, one of *their* players gets busted for selling Oxy?

If one our players gets busted with a mound of crack cocaine tommorrow, that says nothing about my morals and it probably says nothing about Gregg Brandon's morals. The only question is how Brandon would handle it -- and I figure he'll probably handle it appropriately.

So the only other thing worth talking about at that point would be whether Brandon was a good judge of character and bringing the right young men into our program.

That would be a discussion long on conjecture and short on hard evidence -- a whole lot of tedious reading, much like some of these threads that get going here about Toledo.

I don't like tedious threads.

Schadenfraude: the beacon of truth, reason, and logic.

Speak brother, speak.

[orangeandbrown]

Can we just all take a deep breath, etc

Fine work, Schad.

[Dr. Bucko]

You wonder why it is that sooooo many football players seem to get into trouble with the law. Is it because there are more of them, or is it the nature of the sport, or a combination of both. You rarely hear of other athletes getting into brawls and scrapes with the law (save for Hockey players ---- maybe they're of the same mentality as football players). Swimmers, cross-country, track and field, golf, tennis players, etc. on scholarship seem to focus on their sports and producing in the classroom. They keep their noses clean. Any explanation out there?????????

[PGY Tiercel]

In terms of Swimmers, I think they just aren't as important to warrant extra coverage like football players. I new several on the Men's team and at times you could say it was a drinking team with a swimming problem. I know that several of them were at traffic court after there first DUI. I think it comes back the fact that the majority of the student body doesn't care about these guys, whether they are doing well or getting in trouble.

[transfer2BGSU]

I remember when the men's swimming team made the news in a way you don't want to make it. Seems some members had a slight problem with stealing computers from the campus.

[orangeandbrown]

I remember when the men's swimming team made the news in a way you don't want to make it. Seems some members had a slight problem with stealing computers from the campus.

Yeah, I was going to mention that. One thing is there are 100 guys on a football team, and not so many swimmers, etc. The entire community has to deal with the fact that young people are still learning, and they make mistakes and create problems. They represent the full breadth of the society--and there are going to be some problems. But when a guy who lives in Harshman gets in trouble, you don't have someone posting his search warrant into on the Internet.

[Schadenfreude]

I remember when the men's swimming team made the news in a way you don't want to make it. Seems some members had a slight problem with stealing computers from the campus.

Didn't they have to cancel the rest of the season or something? Most of the team was implicated

[Flipper]

I think the thing that irritates me the most about this whole episode is the fact that this guy used the foibles of a bunch of college kids to try to irritate us (or some of us). My life isn't affected one way or the other by this information coming to light, but the kids involved may face a certain level of public embarassment. Is it worth dragging people who haven't done anything to you through the mud just so you can play "gotcha" on some internet board?

What sort of a person would take the time to dig up dirt on a bunch of 18-22 year old kids, anyway?

[Falconfreak90]

Can we just all take a deep breath?

Isn't it enough to rest quietly secure in the knowledge that our university is more selective and more reputable than Toledo? That our athletic department has never been guilty of a major NCAA infraction?

Isn't it enough to just know this?

Is it really necessary for some of us to go further by pointing to the mistakes made by some of the other young men who play in our conference, lord it over them, and try to bootstrap it into some sort of moral superiority?

Maybe it's me... but I find it really tedious.

Young men make mistakes. I made them. Today's young men make them, too. Some of these young men play football at Toledo. Some of them play football at Bowling Green.

Look, I do agree that the fact that a Toledo player was recently busted for dealing Oxy is worthy of note.

But we probably disagree on why.

I think it's significant because selling Oxy is an incredibly redneck thing to do.

After all the stupid farm and tractor jokes that have been hurled our way from the nroth, one of *their* players gets busted for selling Oxy?

If one our players gets busted with a mound of crack cocaine tommorrow, that says nothing about my morals and it probably says nothing about Gregg Brandon's morals. The only question is how Brandon would handle it -- and I figure he'll probably handle it appropriately.

So the only other thing worth talking about at that point would be whether Brandon was a good judge of character and bringing the right young men into our program.

That would be a discussion long on conjecture and short on hard evidence -- a whole lot of tedious reading, much like some of these threads that get going here about Toledo.

I don't like tedious threads.

Schadenfraude: the beacon of truth, reason, and logic.

Speak brother, speak.

Amen...let's talk Falcon Football and let this nonsense go.