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We got two preferred walk-ons from Delphos last year, Pohlman and Leininger.
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Toledo got Norton...a 270 lb OL prospect that according to scoutingohio doesn't even bench his own weight and Jody Webb...a guy who very well might not qualify, which is why Toledo was just about his only offer. It's getting the ugly girl at last call...you got her because who the hell else wants her? :)
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I've been in the Cleveland area 25 years now, and this is the first year I can remember BG not getting even one recruit from the Cleveland or Akron.
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Rollo83 wrote:I've been in the Cleveland area 25 years now, and this is the first year I can remember BG not getting even one recruit from the Cleveland or Akron.
That is a concern, for sure. Class of 61 had a pretty in depth conversation with the coaches about that very issue at the Signing Day event. I told Coach McDaniel there is waaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much talent in NE Ohio (Cleve, Akron, Canton, Ytown) for BG not to be getting at least a few every year. Hopefully that changes next year.

BTW, Jack Snowball of Wadsworth signed with Miaudi. This kid NEVER fumbled in HS and touched the ball quite a bit. I was hoping he would end up at BG. At least with our move to the West, we won't see him unless Miaudi wins the East and plays us in title game this year. :D
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Flipper wrote:Toledo got Norton...a 270 lb OL prospect that according to scoutingohio doesn't even bench his own weight and Jody Webb...a guy who very well might not qualify, which is why Toledo was just about his only offer. It's getting the ugly girl at last call...you got her because who the hell else wants her? :)
Storm definitely needs to build up his upper body strength but at 6-8 310 he will push around his share of D-lineman in due time...
As for Webb, he may or may not qualify, but his chances of playing college football soon, are much better than Mark Meyers(decommit to MSU)...
BTW, nice class for the Falcons...
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Falconfreak90 wrote:
Rollo83 wrote:I've been in the Cleveland area 25 years now, and this is the first year I can remember BG not getting even one recruit from the Cleveland or Akron.
That is a concern, for sure. Class of 61 had a pretty in depth conversation with the coaches about that very issue at the Signing Day event. I told Coach McDaniel there is waaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much talent in NE Ohio (Cleve, Akron, Canton, Ytown) for BG not to be getting at least a few every year. Hopefully that changes next year.

BTW, Jack Snowball of Wadsworth signed with Miaudi. This kid NEVER fumbled in HS and touched the ball quite a bit. I was hoping he would end up at BG. At least with our move to the West, we won't see him unless Miaudi wins the East and plays us in title game this year. :D
Saw Snowball play in the HS playoffs ... A big tough kid though, who had a rough night running on the Whitmer defense...
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FORT MEIGS ROCKET wrote:
Flipper wrote:Toledo got Norton...a 270 lb OL prospect that according to scoutingohio doesn't even bench his own weight and Jody Webb...a guy who very well might not qualify, which is why Toledo was just about his only offer. It's getting the ugly girl at last call...you got her because who the hell else wants her? :)
Storm definitely needs to build up his upper body strength but at 6-8 310 he will push around his share of D-lineman in due time...
As for Webb, he may or may not qualify, but his chances of playing college football soon, are much better than Mark Meyers(decommit to MSU)...
BTW, nice class for the Falcons...

I never understand why these guys go to teams where they wont play for 3 years instead of going to teams where they might start right away. OSU, LSU, Bama should not get a a top RB every year, or even every other year. If I see that you have my spot for 2 more years but I can play immediately elsewhere I am going elsewhere.
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Globetrotter wrote:
FORT MEIGS ROCKET wrote:
Flipper wrote:Toledo got Norton...a 270 lb OL prospect that according to scoutingohio doesn't even bench his own weight and Jody Webb...a guy who very well might not qualify, which is why Toledo was just about his only offer. It's getting the ugly girl at last call...you got her because who the hell else wants her? :)
Storm definitely needs to build up his upper body strength but at 6-8 310 he will push around his share of D-lineman in due time...
As for Webb, he may or may not qualify, but his chances of playing college football soon, are much better than Mark Meyers(decommit to MSU)...
BTW, nice class for the Falcons...

I never understand why these guys go to teams where they wont play for 3 years instead of going to teams where they might start right away. OSU, LSU, Bama should not get a a top RB every year, or even every other year. If I see that you have my spot for 2 more years but I can play immediately elsewhere I am going elsewhere.
Then look at it this way. You are a stud running back. Do you want to play at Bowling Green/CMU/etc in front of 15,000 people and play on ESPN 2 on Tuesday night in November or do you want to play at LSU/Alabama and be the primetime game on CBS nearly every week in front of 100,000? Where BG/CMU might produce one pro prosepct a year each and LSU and Alabama might produce a dozen pro prospects a year each. Do you want to play in the toilet bowl or the BCS championship game? Do you want people wearing your jersey all over the South or do you want people wearing your jersey in BG? Do you want to be on the cover of a video game someday?

If it were me I will wait my turn behind another player destined for the NFL. I doubt Trent Richardson regrets playing behind Mark Ingram his freshman year.
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kdog27 wrote:
Globetrotter wrote:
FORT MEIGS ROCKET wrote:
Flipper wrote:Toledo got Norton...a 270 lb OL prospect that according to scoutingohio doesn't even bench his own weight and Jody Webb...a guy who very well might not qualify, which is why Toledo was just about his only offer. It's getting the ugly girl at last call...you got her because who the hell else wants her? :)
Storm definitely needs to build up his upper body strength but at 6-8 310 he will push around his share of D-lineman in due time...
As for Webb, he may or may not qualify, but his chances of playing college football soon, are much better than Mark Meyers(decommit to MSU)...
BTW, nice class for the Falcons...

I never understand why these guys go to teams where they wont play for 3 years instead of going to teams where they might start right away. OSU, LSU, Bama should not get a a top RB every year, or even every other year. If I see that you have my spot for 2 more years but I can play immediately elsewhere I am going elsewhere.
Then look at it this way. You are a stud running back. Do you want to play at Bowling Green/CMU/etc in front of 15,000 people and play on ESPN 2 on Tuesday night in November or do you want to play at LSU/Alabama and be the primetime game on CBS nearly every week? Where BG/CMU might produce one pro prosepct a year each and LSU and Alabama might produce a dozen pro prospects a year each. Do you want to play in the toilet bowl or the BCS championship game? Do you want people wearing jersey all over the South or do you want people wearing your jersey in BG? Do you want to be on the cover of a video game someday?

If it were me I will wait my turn behind another player destined for the NFL. I doubt Trent Richardson regrets playing behind Mark Ingram his freshman year.
I definitely see your point and I have actually raised this to an ex football player at OSU that never made it to the big time. The one I raised it to pointed out that there was a picture in Sports Illustrated of him during the national championship game and that was worth it.

2 countertype points for you.
1. There would be more guys going pro from schools like BG and less from schools like Bama if these players went to them.
2. For every Trent Richardson there are a handful of other guys who guys like him who Trent Richardson beat out and forced to transfer.

Lets look at the recruits at Bama at RB, its eye opening.

2010 recruits
Corey Grant-Transfer to Auburn
Jahlston Fowler-On Roster 3rd leading rusher 2011

2009 recruits
Trent Richardson-Stud on to the NFL
Eddie Lacy-Redshirted and will likely start in 2012 after rushing for 600+ yads in 2011
Mike Marrow-Transfer to EMU is from Toledo

2008 recruits
Ivan Matchett-Medical off the roster
Jermaine Preyear-Transfer Alabama State
Mark Ingram-New Orleans Saints

2007 recruits
Demetrius Goode-59 carries at Alabama in 3 years Transferred to Northern Alabama
Jermaine Griffin-medical scholarship which I did not know existed and seems like a way to push a guy out to bring in another body
http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2010 ... for_i.html
Jamar Taylor-transfer to South Florida

2006 recruits
Mike Ford-Transfer to Soouth Florida
Terry Grant-257 carries over 4 years. Not too bad
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Sure but that is true anywhere. Plenty of kids come to BG that were well thought of and never pan out for a myriad of reasons.

Ingram-Richardson-Lacy. That is a pretty impressive pipeline. Probably all three of them will be first round picks. In my unprofessional opionion I have always thought is better for these running backs to wait their turn. Much less of a physical toll on their body before they get to the professional level.
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I can't imagine a kid coming out of high school who actually believes he counldn't start for OSU as a frosh. I mean ANY kid even if he never played football. I STILL think I could start for OSU. I'm sure Chuck Nevitt thought "man, if I had the breaks that Jordan guy had no one would even remember his name." Its only after reality hits that you start seeing the transfers to more realistic situations.
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kdog27 wrote:Sure but that is true anywhere. Plenty of kids come to BG that were well thought of and never pan out for a myriad of reasons.

Ingram-Richardson-Lacy. That is a pretty impressive pipeline. Probably all three of them will be first round picks. In my unprofessional opionion I have always thought is better for these running backs to wait their turn. Much less of a physical toll on their body before they get to the professional level.
You see all of that then you point to the 3 guys out of 13 and say that it would be a good decision to go there....? Huh? Sure its great for 3 guys what about the other 10?

Also at BG, because we are the lowest level of D1 the argument could be that if you are not getting PT you are atleast getting a scholarship.
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Globetrotter wrote:
kdog27 wrote:Sure but that is true anywhere. Plenty of kids come to BG that were well thought of and never pan out for a myriad of reasons.

Ingram-Richardson-Lacy. That is a pretty impressive pipeline. Probably all three of them will be first round picks. In my unprofessional opionion I have always thought is better for these running backs to wait their turn. Much less of a physical toll on their body before they get to the professional level.
You see all of that then you point to the 3 guys out of 13 and say that it would be a good decision to go there....? Huh? Sure its great for 3 guys what about the other 10?
So you are assuming those 10 players wouldn't have had problems somewhere else. If they were that good they would have beaten those 3 mentioned players for their spots. Not to mention all the other reasons they might not make it in college (Academics, Criminal Behavior, can't transition, problems with the coaching staff, etc). 3 out of 13 as first round draft picks assuming Lacy is as good as I think he will be next season. I bet you can't beat that anywhere!
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kdog27 wrote:
Globetrotter wrote:
kdog27 wrote:Sure but that is true anywhere. Plenty of kids come to BG that were well thought of and never pan out for a myriad of reasons.

Ingram-Richardson-Lacy. That is a pretty impressive pipeline. Probably all three of them will be first round picks. In my unprofessional opionion I have always thought is better for these running backs to wait their turn. Much less of a physical toll on their body before they get to the professional level.
You see all of that then you point to the 3 guys out of 13 and say that it would be a good decision to go there....? Huh? Sure its great for 3 guys what about the other 10?
So you are assuming those 10 players wouldn't have had problems somewhere else. If they were that good they would have beaten those 3 mentioned players for their spots. Not to mention all the other reasons they might not make it in college (Academics, Criminal Behavior, can't transition, problems with the coaching staff, etc). 3 out of 13 as first round draft picks assuming Lacy is as good as I think he will be next season. I bet you can't beat that anywhere!
If they were that good they would have beaten out the top 2 RBs from college football for the last 2 years? For all we know they could be the second best back at Alabama and the second best back in all of NCAA Bowl Division. I am not sure what point you are trying to make. I agree that you can't beat that anywhere...so why would those other ten guys not see the writing on the wall and head to a place where they can play.

I agree with flaking out but I also think it has a lot to do with attachment. You have little to lose when you are not playing. With a lot to lose you probably dont rob a minimart on bike with a fake afro.
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When I visited with coach last summer and he found out I was from FW, he asked about Knapke. It was clear that they were excited to sign this kid. I don't know much about him, other than what I here from my Luer's friends. They love him.
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