ANOTHER SCHEDULING CONFLICT.......WHAT THE ####

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It might not be a question of testicles or any other glands...life isn't always a series of "macho head games"...The STO contract with the MAC might say that they can change a start time to fit the game of the week if they give advanced notice...think NBC and their contract with the NFL...and member institutions, as signees on the deal...HAVE to comply.
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Flipper wrote:It might not be a question of testicles or any other glands...life isn't always a series of "macho head games"...The STO contract with the MAC might say that they can change a start time to fit the game of the week if they give advanced notice...think NBC and their contract with the NFL...and member institutions, as signees on the deal...HAVE to comply.
So, you're saying we allow someone sitting in an office 100s of miles from here, with no attachment to our university, to dictate what happens on our campus? Key words being OUR CAMPUS. It is a matter of standing up for our student athletes. If our own university won't do it, it's time for something to change.
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Do you follow football here?
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Or they might have looked at tthe situation this way...there's maybe 100-200...heck, even if it's 500 (really doubt its that high) people who would have gone to both the hockey and basketball games. The exposure in NE Ohio and accross the region and country if you have access to STO is worth more than pissing off 100-200 people. I will concede that it sucks to be part of that 100-200, but the math doesn't work in your favor on this one...
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Flipper wrote:Or they might have looked at tthe situation this way...there's maybe 100-200...heck, even if it's 500 (really doubt its that high) people who would have gone to both the hockey and basketball games. The exposure in NE Ohio and accross the region and country if you have access to STO is worth more than pissing off 100-200 people. I will concede that it sucks to be part of that 100-200, but the math doesn't work in your favor on this one...
The exposure of playing at 6PM on a Saturday night? Do they plan on people being snowed in?

The biggest thing is this university has said they are committed to hockey. So far this season there have been home hockey games during fall break, away games during homecoming, home for Thanksgiving weekend, away games for alumni weekend, and direct scheduling conflicts with the opening of the Stroh as well as moving a second basketball game (since January 1st) into a conflict with hockey. Where is the commitment?

Senior night should be about the seniors. Not the chance somebody may be bored enough to pause on a MAC basketball game for 5 minutes while flipping channels. These seniors have played for 3 coaching staffs, faced the elimination of the program, watched the rest of their class leave for various reasons, yet continue to be examples of how hockey players should play. I've never seen them take shifts off. Never seen them hold back. They play the way you want players to play. Now, the night we honor them for their services, the university is saying it's ok to force maybe 200 people to choose if they are important enough to leave another game? What kind of thanks is that?
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The people who are interested in hockey will still go to the game....and I have no real way of quantifying this, but I can almost gurantee that the number of people watching the hoops game will exceed the number of people actually effected by this change. STO would have no advertisers if they only reached 500 even 1,000 people max.
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pdt1081 wrote: So, you're saying we allow someone sitting in an office 100s of miles from here, with no attachment to our university, to dictate what happens on our campus? Key words being OUR CAMPUS. It is a matter of standing up for our student athletes. If our own university won't do it, it's time for something to change.
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Since Joyce and I are coming up that weekend as a part of my birthday celebration, we were planning to see the women's and men's B ball, then onto the hockey game... Joyce doesn't really care all that much for hockey, but, like I said, it's a celebration weekend for us (and possibly Freak too...since we were born only a day apart, right Mike? \:D/ ).

So we'll head over to the hockey game after the men's game...or may leave early from b ball if it's not a close game...but we saw the 1st KSU game when BG put up SIXTY in 2nd half...so who knows?

But.... FWIW.... didn't the hockey game do pretty well the LAST time there was a conflict...in terms of attendance? I understand the desire to see the 2 srs. recognized, but the name MICHIGAN is going to draw people in more than "usual" I'd think.
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We will have a decent crowd just because we play the weasels, but also because it's senior night and it's the last home.
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pdt1081 wrote:
Flipper wrote:It might not be a question of testicles or any other glands...life isn't always a series of "macho head games"...The STO contract with the MAC might say that they can change a start time to fit the game of the week if they give advanced notice...think NBC and their contract with the NFL...and member institutions, as signees on the deal...HAVE to comply.
So, you're saying we allow someone sitting in an office 100s of miles from here, with no attachment to our university, to dictate what happens on our campus? Key words being OUR CAMPUS. It is a matter of standing up for our student athletes. If our own university won't do it, it's time for something to change.
I agree that it sucks that there is now a conflict. I, like others, planned to attend all three games (wbb, mbb and hockey) that day. However, I also agree that it's probably specified in the MAC/STO contract that they can change the start time when a game is added to the TV schedule, & there's likely nothing that BGSU -- or any MAC school -- can do about it. Cue the "Fire GC" brigade, though, because it's got to be his fault. It's not like there's 12 league schools making the decisions as a group -- it's all GC. :roll:

My guess is that a lot of you complaining about the time conflict would complain even more if the department moved the hockey start time to 8:30 or 9 that night. "They are treating hockey as a second-class citizen", "I can't stay up that late", "I just like to b!tch about things", etc.
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threestooges wrote:[

I agree that it sucks that there is now a conflict. I, like others, planned to attend all three games (wbb, mbb and hockey) that day. However, I also agree that it's probably specified in the MAC/STO contract that they can change the start time when a game is added to the TV schedule, & there's likely nothing that BGSU -- or any MAC school -- can do about it. Cue the "Fire GC" brigade, though, because it's got to be his fault. It's not like there's 12 league schools making the decisions as a group -- it's all GC. :roll:
There is a problem if nothing was put into that contract to account for scheduling conflicts involving other events on campus. That's called common sense.
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Remember "that contract" is a MAC contract, not a BGSU contract.

Besides, how can the Athletic Department schedule a home hockey contest the same night of the College of Musical Arts Festival Series? Now people have to decide which to attend - the Christopher O'Reily piano concert or the hockey game. That's not right!

And let's not even mention the fact the Men's basketball game against The School Up North conflicts with the preliminary round of the Dubois piano competition.
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We're still coming up on the 25th as well as this weekend. It sux this change is gonna happen. Last time (Jan 7th) we skipped the Men's game (vs Ohio) since it was on tv, DVRed it and went to the hockey game vs the Suckeyes. As 61 said, BG put up 60 points at Kent in the second half so I would hate to miss the rematch. But UM at the Ice Arena on SR night? Tough choice to make. Guess we'll play it by ear but I'm definitely leaning toward seeing the whole hockey game, especially the way the Falcons have been playing of late. With that in mind, I don't like the idea of buying tix for the men's game only to leave at halftime. The positive side is I wouldn't have to see that tool Reghi for the whole game. LOL! And I can DVR the men's game and watch it when I get home.

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Why is it just assumed that the schools have no option to turn down STO? I find ir hard to believe we have to do whatever they tell us. I would bet we have the option to turn down STO...we constantly sabotage our own attendance for tv.
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U of M changed its start time with Miami last weekend only two weeks prior to the game. If they can push back their game by 30 min for tv why can't we ay least push our game against UM back to 8pm. The game will be on BCSN, so its on tv. Tape Delay albeit but if UM and other programs can adjust their games why can't we move hockey back an hour. Then have the Senior recognition right at 8:00, dropping of the puck around 8:10. Now those who attend the bball game will only miss about 5 min of the hockey game. There are ways to help eliminate conflicts but I doubt the administration has the balls to do anything. Maybe we can get the ice to be soft and there will be a delay of an hour until it freezes.
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