Directionally, Greg Christopher Doesn't Get It

[jpfalcon09]

You would think with a new arena would push GC to want the men's program to flourish, but it sounds like he's okay with the status quo which is nothing better than a stagnant puddle of scummy water. I don't follow the men's program enough to know all the details, but I would imagine 5 years of mediocrity is enough of a bellwether to gauge how effective Orr has been here.

[Matty B]

You would think with a new arena would push GC to want the men's program to flourish, but it sounds like he's okay with the status quo which is nothing better than a stagnant puddle of scummy water. I don't follow the men's program enough to know all the details, but I would imagine 5 years of mediocrity is enough of a bellwether to gauge how effective Orr has been here.

THEY'VE ONLY HAD ONE SEASON TO RECRUIT TO THE THE STROH CENTER. If we see no improvement over the next two years (the remainder of Coach Orr's contract), then I think we as fans will have a beef. We need to be patient and see this through. Remember, Coach K had a losing record his first 3 seasons at Duke.

[Matty B]

Toledo also does have reason to be optimistic. Toledo does have a good reason to feel confident in their program. Toledo's coach is a good coach. He saves his religious beliefs, whatever they may be, for sunday, and doesn't display them in his post game press conferences when all u want to hear is why the worst player on their team (Erger for BG) got 20 minutes of PT in a post season game. Toledo's coach has a clue; BG's coach doesn't have a clue. Toledo's AD has a clue; by his recent interaction with the media, BG's AD is TOTALLY clueless and should be dismissed from his position. So yes, this is a GREAT article example on what BG should strive for, cause Toledo is on the right path.

So from what I get from this post, a coach's religious beliefs and how he chooses to portray them are the only attributes that matter when it comes to coaching baskebtall I actually thought Lou did a great job coaching this year. Sure, there were some in-game decisions that left us scratching our heads, and people tend to focus solely on that for whatever reason, but that's really only 10% of a coach's job. I thought we did a great job competing with the teams at the top this year despite having EASILY one of the least talented teams in the MAC. Don't believe me? TRY to name ONE other MAC team this season for which, if added to their roster, Dee Brown would have started.

Now that we're recruiting to the Stroh Center, I see a major upswing in the incoming talent level in the next few years. Coach Orr at least deserves the right to ride out his contract and prove he can recruit to facilities near the top of the league's.

[transfer2BGSU]

THEY'VE ONLY HAD ONE SEASON TO RECRUIT TO THE THE STROH CENTER. If we see no improvement over the next two years (the remainder of Coach Orr's contract), then I think we as fans will have a beef. We need to be patient and see this through. Remember, Coach K had a losing record his first 3 seasons at Duke.

Have you not learned anything boy?

Common sense and facts will get you no where!

Now, go back, find some trivial, irrelevant, and incorrect fact on the Internet and post it as the truth!

[h2oville rocket]

TRY to name ONE other MAC team this season for which, if added to their roster, Dee Brown would have started.

NIU

[guest44]

NIU, Central, EMU, Miami (after injuries). That's 4 off the top of my head. Why be impressed after 5 years that BG is able to compete with other teams in its' own league? Is that the standard? Why could this team not beat Central Michigan at home in one of Lou Orr's most important games of his career? What makes you think next year will be different going off 5 mediocre seasons? Why should BG fans think any incoming player will make a huge impact in his first year under Lou Orr? 5 years and nobody has. What about Lou Orr, as a coach makes you think he can win the MAC title and take BG to its' ultimate goal?

[guest44]

And as far as Lou Orr to Coach K.......... Lou Orr got fired already. I could pick the better coach of the two, knowing nothing about either person, by watching both walk down the street.

[BleedOrange]

NIU, Central, EMU, Miami (after injuries). That's 4 off the top of my head. Why be impressed after 5 years that BG is able to compete with other teams in its' own league? Is that the standard? Why could this team not beat Central Michigan at home in one of Lou Orr's most important games of his career? What makes you think next year will be different going off 5 mediocre seasons? Why should BG fans think any incoming player will make a huge impact in his first year under Lou Orr? 5 years and nobody has. What about Lou Orr, as a coach makes you think he can win the MAC title and take BG to its' ultimate goal?

'44, really?? You think Dee Brown could have started for Miami, Central, or Eastern? I don't.

Brown was the weak link on this team. He scored a little, but did nothing else. If we would have had AJ Guyton, a good but not great MAC player, for our 2G this year, the difference would have been HUGE.

Cory Ryan
John Floyd
Dusan Radovich
Mark Larson
Dee Brown

...we have an established history of playing or starting sub-D1 talents. When was the last time we saw players of this caliber take the court for Akron, Kent, or Ohio? Enough!!! I don't know how much more of this dogshit I can take.

[Globetrotter]

Toledo also does have reason to be optimistic. Toledo does have a good reason to feel confident in their program. Toledo's coach is a good coach. He saves his religious beliefs, whatever they may be, for sunday, and doesn't display them in his post game press conferences when all u want to hear is why the worst player on their team (Erger for BG) got 20 minutes of PT in a post season game. Toledo's coach has a clue; BG's coach doesn't have a clue. Toledo's AD has a clue; by his recent interaction with the media, BG's AD is TOTALLY clueless and should be dismissed from his position. So yes, this is a GREAT article example on what BG should strive for, cause Toledo is on the right path.

So from what I get from this post, a coach's religious beliefs and how he chooses to portray them are the only attributes that matter when it comes to coaching baskebtall I actually thought Lou did a great job coaching this year. Sure, there were some in-game decisions that left us scratching our heads, and people tend to focus solely on that for whatever reason, but that's really only 10% of a coach's job. I thought we did a great job competing with the teams at the top this year despite having EASILY one of the least talented teams in the MAC. Don't believe me? TRY to name ONE other MAC team this season for which, if added to their roster, Dee Brown would have started.

Now that we're recruiting to the Stroh Center, I see a major upswing in the incoming talent level in the next few years. Coach Orr at least deserves the right to ride out his contract and prove he can recruit to facilities near the top of the league's.

Yeah. How do you expect Coach Orr to compete with the rest of the MAC when he has to use the players that he recruits?

The problem is not recruiting. It has not been grat but its ok. The problems are
1. Player development
2. In game coaching including substituations, timeouts
3. The hideous offense
4. The lack of community connection resulting in dwindling fan support from both Bowling Green citizens and students
5. The lack of overall discipline and consistency from the team including pride in the school

He has to go. I hope we are just waiting until OSU gets knocked out to hire Chris Jent.

[Globetrotter]

NIU, Central, EMU, Miami (after injuries). That's 4 off the top of my head. Why be impressed after 5 years that BG is able to compete with other teams in its' own league? Is that the standard? Why could this team not beat Central Michigan at home in one of Lou Orr's most important games of his career? What makes you think next year will be different going off 5 mediocre seasons? Why should BG fans think any incoming player will make a huge impact in his first year under Lou Orr? 5 years and nobody has. What about Lou Orr, as a coach makes you think he can win the MAC title and take BG to its' ultimate goal?

'44, really?? You think Dee Brown could have started for Miami, Central, or Eastern? I don't.

Brown was the weak link on this team. He scored a little, but did nothing else. If we would have had AJ Guyton, a good but not great MAC player, for our 2G this year, the difference would have been HUGE.

Cory Ryan
John Floyd
Dusan Radovich
Mark Larson
Dee Brown

...we have an established history of playing or starting sub-D1 talents. When was the last time we saw players of this caliber take the court for Akron, Kent, or Ohio? Enough!!! I don't know how much more of this dogshit I can take.

Cue James Erger. 20 minutes in the final game of the year.

[guest44]

Did you watch those teams play? Miami had a bunch of young guards, and Charlie would have loved to have Dee Brown over what he had starting. Northern Illinois was a small step above Malone when they came to BG. Not saying Dee Brown is great, but he was good enough that our own coach played him a big chunk of minutes.

I just want to hear the selling point on what Orr has done as a coach. He is not Dakich. His players don't transfer or get booted (I can think of 1 that needs to), he hasn't hit rock bottom yet? Seton Hall saw all the same things we see and they cut him loose for a reason. Mediocre and boring.

[guest44]

Oh, I'm counting down the days until the first home game. I can picture it now. The lights go off, the Chicago Bulls theme song comes on, barely loud enough to hear, and starting at forward.........JAMES ERGER.

[BGFalconfromCincy]

Seton Hall saw all the same things we see and they cut him loose for a reason. Mediocre and boring.

Seton Hall also had something we don't, $$$$ to pay the buyout. Unless someone steps up like they did when Brandon was let go Orr will be here the for how many years he has left on his contract

[CrazyFan]

Seton Hall saw all the same things we see and they cut him loose for a reason. Mediocre and boring.

Seton Hall also had something we don't, $$$$ to pay the buyout. Unless someone steps up like they did when Brandon was let go Orr will be here the for how many years he has left on his contract

Another MAC school, CMU, had the money to buy out their coach. And I'm sure with Christopher's money raising abilities that if he dug around just a little bit he could find a donor or 50. But I dont see that happening unfortunately. Orr was Christophers hire, so he's going to give him every chance in the book. And what happens next will be the most unfortunate part, because in his next two years, Orr is going to sky dive this program into the bottom of the MAC that it's going to take years for the next coach to dig us out of it, whomever is gullible enough to take the challenge. And this new arena means jacks**t. It's not the arena, it's Louis Orr and his coaching ability. Get ready, because were on the fast track to where Eastern Mich spent MANY years. And some on this site keep sticking up for Orr; well you enjoy being one of 500 people at the home game when BGSU is getting ran off the floor by Eastern Michigan; and Central Michigan, because they were smart enough to make a move when it was needed; and every other team in the MAC. I, also, don't know how much more of this dogshit I can take.

[BGorDeath]

You know, I lost my job back in 2010 and was out of work for a year and a half. Yeah, explain to your kids why Santa didn't bring them anything. It just kills me that compassion goes out the freaking window when it comes to coaches and athletes. Yes, I know it is "part of the job", but think about if the shoe was on the other foot - everybody that walks into your place of work and demands that you be fired. At some point people need to think about the reality of losing a job and realize that no matter who it is, you wouldn't wish that upon anyone.