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kdog27 wrote:
footballguy51 wrote:This reminds me of Ohio State and John Cooper. Cooper couldn't beat Michigan and couldn't win bowl games, but OSU won games. Cooper eventually lost his job for that because people care about winning the important games.
No John Cooper had a great winning percentage other than bowls and UM. Clawson doesn't have the wins against anyone.
I say that because I think Clawson will bring us a winning season (7 or 8 wins). In fact, he will probably bring us winning seasons for the next 10 years if we let him, but we'll continue to struggle in the important games.
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Rightupinthere wrote:Someone sprayed the Clawson bandwagon with silicone. Watch for a bunch of people slipping off.
Damn right. The game plan looked as though we didn't even want to win!!

Just wait until we drop a game against Akron or EMU later this year, there won't be anybody left on the bandwagon, maybe not even Freddie and Freida.
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The thing that frustrates the most is that this game
Was lost because of coaching errors. The players played so
hard in the third quarter but play calling in the redone/PAT
decisions cost us. I'm almost at a loss for words as to how
inept our staff is at game planning and in game decision making
they are hindering our players and not putting them in the best
positions to succeed...

Just sad...
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Toledo outplayed us (again) and we seemed completely unprepared to get after it at the start of the game and after halftime (again). Disappointing, but we shouldn't be surprised.

There's way too much skill at the offensive skill positions with a decent offensive line to be averaging under 20 points/game at this point in the season. We should be scoring more. On defense, we gave up the big pass play in the first half and could not get off the field on the long 4th Q drive. Missing the 2 point conversion before that drive had to be a little deflating. Now that I think about it again, why did we go for the 2 at that point? As a 1 possession game, it's a lot different (even if you do need a TD and 2 point conversion).

Kicking - these guys don't look like division 1 kickers. For that, I blame the coaching staff for not making it a priority. Both the Florida game and tonight's could have been wins if we had acceptable kicking. I don't expect 50 yard field goals and touchbacks on every kickoff, but I would like to be surprised when we miss a short field goal or extra point. I almost expect it at this point. The FG before halftime was almost shocking.
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svillefalcon wrote:The thing that frustrates the most is that this game
Was lost because of coaching errors. The players played so
hard in the third quarter but play calling in the redone/PAT
decisions cost us. I'm almost at a loss for words as to how
inept our staff is at game planning and in game decision making
they are hindering our players and not putting them in the best
positions to succeed...

Just sad...
If somebody wants to question going for 2 on the last touchdown, then they are confused. Yes, the "book" says kick the 1 and go for 2 on the next TD. But, with how our kickers have performed this year, I'd say we go for 2 on every touchdown for the rest of the year, and anything from the 40 on in is considered 4 down territory. Cut the kickers and take back their scholarships.
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Do we even know if the kickers are actually the problem? What if its all that damn Marino's fault again...
Yeah right girl!

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footballguy51 wrote:
svillefalcon wrote:The thing that frustrates the most is that this game
Was lost because of coaching errors. The players played so
hard in the third quarter but play calling in the redone/PAT
decisions cost us. I'm almost at a loss for words as to how
inept our staff is at game planning and in game decision making
they are hindering our players and not putting them in the best
positions to succeed...

Just sad...
If somebody wants to question going for 2 on the last touchdown, then they are confused. Yes, the "book" says kick the 1 and go for 2 on the next TD. But, with how our kickers have performed this year, I'd say we go for 2 on every touchdown for the rest of the year, and anything from the 40 on in is considered 4 down territory. Cut the kickers and take back their scholarships.
I disagree completely on the XP. We were 5 for 5 before the miss. We will always struggle on 2 point attempts because picking up 2 yards is just not our style. We run out of the gun and can't pick up 2 yards when we need it. No way do we end up over 50% on 2 point conversions, which would be the only way that your plan would work.

Regarding field goals, I would only kick a FG of inside 30 yards or if we're in 4th and 15+.
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How will Clawson spin this?

And keep the OSU analgies to yourself ;-), what you described is Don Nehlen at Bowling Green- where he was let go, worked a year under Bo at UM then took over at WVU.
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Dayons_Den wrote:How will Clawson spin this?

And keep the OSU analgies to yourself ;-), what you described is Don Nehlen at Bowling Green- where he was let go, worked a year under Bo at UM then took over at WVU.
He blamed a select few plays as to why they lost the game and made excuses for why he went for two. He sounded like an NFL coach trying to save face and keep his job.
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Am I the only one who thinks going for 2 was a good decision, or at the very least a level-headed gamble? I mean, we were driving and getting consistent plays before both attempts, I don't see why trying to ride the momentum is a bad thing. Especially considering how bad the kicking was/is going.
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Zig wrote:Am I the only one who thinks going for 2 was a good decision, or at the very least a level-headed gamble? I mean, we were driving and getting consistent plays before both attempts, I don't see why trying to ride the momentum is a bad thing. Especially considering how bad the kicking was/is going.
I agreed with going for 2.
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We just laid an egg tonight. Plain and simple. I mean these are games you just have to find a way to win.
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Dayons_Den wrote:
Zig wrote:Am I the only one who thinks going for 2 was a good decision, or at the very least a level-headed gamble? I mean, we were driving and getting consistent plays before both attempts, I don't see why trying to ride the momentum is a bad thing. Especially considering how bad the kicking was/is going.
I agreed with going for 2.
Cmon people really?! You're down by 9 following a touchdown. You kick the extra point and make sure that you make it a 1 possession game. If you go for two and don't make it, you completely deflate your team and lose all the momentum you had, not to mention you make your task of coming back that much harder. That's exactly what happened.

Any other conclusion is an egregiously bad grasp of simple mathematics.
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Kicking and inability to score points overall are STILL killing BG. Clawson talked over and over in the offseason about his confidence in the kicking this year, and three games in, it is STILL a MAJOR concern, as it has been for the last three years. Another major concern is BG's inability to put points on the board. The 14 against Florida was well - expected. But 21 vs Idaho and 15 vs Toledo??? I remember when BG used to be able to score that in a QUARTER not long ago.
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bgsufalcon24 wrote:
Dayons_Den wrote:
Zig wrote:Am I the only one who thinks going for 2 was a good decision, or at the very least a level-headed gamble? I mean, we were driving and getting consistent plays before both attempts, I don't see why trying to ride the momentum is a bad thing. Especially considering how bad the kicking was/is going.
I agreed with going for 2.
Cmon people really?! You're down by 9 following a touchdown. You kick the extra point and make sure that you make it a 1 possession game. If you go for two and don't make it, you completely deflate your team and lose all the momentum you had, not to mention you make your task of coming back that much harder. That's exactly what happened.

Any other conclusion is an egregiously bad grasp of simple mathematics.
Exactly, not getting that conversion ended the game, XP keeps it one possession and your players motivated on defense to get a stop. It was a terrible coaching decision.
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