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I think there's something to be said about having that veteran three-year starter in there under center. I mean yeah he does miss throws but he's still the leader out there and has enough poise to make the team successful. He knows the offense (or Clauffense) better than anyone. As long as those W's keep coming Schilz is alright with me.
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+1jakehovs23 wrote:I think there's something to be said about having that veteran three-year starter in there under center. I mean yeah he does miss throws but he's still the leader out there and has enough poise to make the team successful. He knows the offense (or Clauffense) better than anyone. As long as those W's keep coming Schilz is alright with me.
Also, I believe he had one or two incompletes where the play was a screen that was sniffed out, so he threw the ball at the feet of the receiver so it was uncatchable but not an intentional grounding penalty. A younger QB may have tried to fit the pass in there anyways or panicked and taken a sack. He may not be perfect, but when you take into account that he's very poised and makes smart decisions, he's helping us win by not handing the ball to the other team. Some of the incomplete passes are ones I've seen pro QBs screw up as well, so it's not like he's absolutely terrible.
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Jordan Crawford is in the top five in assists and steals for BG.Flipper wrote:Yeah...you're right. Maybe we should pull the guy..who I believe is in the top five here all time as a passer...in favir of a redshirt freshman.
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Wow. If that is extremely good what grade would he get if he had completed even just 50% of his passes? Montanaesque.MarkL wrote:Ohio worked to take Alex Bayer out of the game. Receivers and Schilz were often not on the same page. Schilz badly missed Burbrink late in the game and another one or two not as bad. Not one of these factors should derail the passing offense but with all three, pass offense just didn't work. Hopefully its a one time anomaly. Schilz is running this offense extremely well right now.
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Jordan Crawford hasn't seen a six game winning streak....or the top shelf of his own locker.
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I think Unlce Rico still has eligibility. He can throw it over those mountains and lead us to state.Globetrotter wrote:Flipper wrote:Yeah...you're right. Maybe we should pull the guy..who I believe is in the top five here all time as a passer...in favir of a redshirt freshman.
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lol.Flipper wrote:Jordan Crawford hasn't seen a six game winning streak....or the top shelf of his own locker.
Schilz couldn't hit his locker with his equipment if he was standing in front of it.
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Freudian Slip?hammb wrote:He hit a big one last night off a play fake.kdog27 wrote:I fail to see Matt as a good game manager. IMO we are winning in spite of him and not because of him. When I think of a good game manager I think of Alabama's quarterbacks or Craig Krenzel. I'll stand by my statement earlier this year when I said he looked better in his first game in 2010. He showed flashes of being a great QB the first 4 games of 2011 but he hasn't been the same since accuracy wise. Hammb thinks he is good at pushing the ball downfield. While I tend to agree with that when was the last time he was throwing the ball downfield?
One of these weeks the run is going be taken away or we'll get in a hole like we did at UT and I'm concerned Matt and our receivers wont be good enough to get it done.
I feel like a dick being critical because I'm loving this team and we haven't been on a 6 game winning streak in 8 years, but I still think these are legitimate concerns.
I definitely think the bulk of our passing game should be off play action and throwing passes in the 15+ yard range. Sheehan is definitely not a guy I would consider a game manager...he's just not accurate enough. However he has a big arm that he can make plays downfield, especially off play action, if we go for that.
To me that's the offense we should be running...a standard pro-style set where you're running to set up the pass with a drop back passer.
Of course like I said I'm basing this off what I know of the guys and from what I saw last night. The short/intermediate passing game is WAY out of sync right now. Hopefully they won't need it, but at some point I would imagine they will.
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Per BGSUfalcons.com....JC is 8th all time in assists... 
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You know, last I checked this isn't 2004 / 2005. We're not passing on 3 / 4 plays and winning by scoring 56 points a game with the hope that the defense allows fewer points. Schilz is running the offense extremely well right now because he ...Globetrotter wrote:Wow. If that is extremely good what grade would he get if he had completed even just 50% of his passes? Montanaesque.MarkL wrote:Ohio worked to take Alex Bayer out of the game. Receivers and Schilz were often not on the same page. Schilz badly missed Burbrink late in the game and another one or two not as bad. Not one of these factors should derail the passing offense but with all three, pass offense just didn't work. Hopefully its a one time anomaly. Schilz is running this offense extremely well right now.
... is managing the offense well
... is managing the clock / understanding pace extremely well
... is acting the role of a captain and a leader on the field
... is taking care of the ball
The BG offense doesn't need to be passing 300 yards a game to succeed right now. Instead, the way our team wins is by field position, clock control, solid defense, and physical domination of the opponent. The BG offense needs to control the line of scrimmage, control the clock, take care of the ball, wear the opposing defense down, and score more than the defense is going to allow (which is not very much!). Schilz is very effectively managing this offense to the strengths of our players. No turnovers by the entire offense against Ohio, capitalizing on good field position, with a couple exceptions getting the offense out of bad field position, not rushing the tempo when we need to run down the clock. Schilz needs to manage and run the offense, not win the game. He's done that 6 times in a row so far, so I'm happy with him. Doesn't mean I don't see room for improvement.
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Those are good points.MarkL wrote:You know, last I checked this isn't 2004 / 2005. We're not passing on 3 / 4 plays and winning by scoring 56 points a game with the hope that the defense allows fewer points. Schilz is running the offense extremely well right now because he ...Globetrotter wrote:Wow. If that is extremely good what grade would he get if he had completed even just 50% of his passes? Montanaesque.MarkL wrote:Ohio worked to take Alex Bayer out of the game. Receivers and Schilz were often not on the same page. Schilz badly missed Burbrink late in the game and another one or two not as bad. Not one of these factors should derail the passing offense but with all three, pass offense just didn't work. Hopefully its a one time anomaly. Schilz is running this offense extremely well right now.
... is managing the offense well
... is managing the clock / understanding pace extremely well
... is acting the role of a captain and a leader on the field
... is taking care of the ball
The BG offense doesn't need to be passing 300 yards a game to succeed right now. Instead, the way our team wins is by field position, clock control, solid defense, and physical domination of the opponent. The BG offense needs to control the line of scrimmage, control the clock, take care of the ball, wear the opposing defense down, and score more than the defense is going to allow (which is not very much!). Schilz is very effectively managing this offense to the strengths of our players. No turnovers by the entire offense against Ohio, capitalizing on good field position, with a couple exceptions getting the offense out of bad field position, not rushing the tempo when we need to run down the clock. Schilz needs to manage and run the offense, not win the game. He's done that 6 times in a row so far, so I'm happy with him. Doesn't mean I don't see room for improvement.
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GT,
You say Schilz is awful. Tell me, how many years did you play QB at the Collegiate level? The dude is managing the offense and not making mistakes. Lighten up Francis....
You say Schilz is awful. Tell me, how many years did you play QB at the Collegiate level? The dude is managing the offense and not making mistakes. Lighten up Francis....
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+1.MarkL wrote:You know, last I checked this isn't 2004 / 2005. We're not passing on 3 / 4 plays and winning by scoring 56 points a game with the hope that the defense allows fewer points. Schilz is running the offense extremely well right now because he ...Globetrotter wrote:Wow. If that is extremely good what grade would he get if he had completed even just 50% of his passes? Montanaesque.MarkL wrote:Ohio worked to take Alex Bayer out of the game. Receivers and Schilz were often not on the same page. Schilz badly missed Burbrink late in the game and another one or two not as bad. Not one of these factors should derail the passing offense but with all three, pass offense just didn't work. Hopefully its a one time anomaly. Schilz is running this offense extremely well right now.
... is managing the offense well
... is managing the clock / understanding pace extremely well
... is acting the role of a captain and a leader on the field
... is taking care of the ball
The BG offense doesn't need to be passing 300 yards a game to succeed right now. Instead, the way our team wins is by field position, clock control, solid defense, and physical domination of the opponent. The BG offense needs to control the line of scrimmage, control the clock, take care of the ball, wear the opposing defense down, and score more than the defense is going to allow (which is not very much!). Schilz is very effectively managing this offense to the strengths of our players. No turnovers by the entire offense against Ohio, capitalizing on good field position, with a couple exceptions getting the offense out of bad field position, not rushing the tempo when we need to run down the clock. Schilz needs to manage and run the offense, not win the game. He's done that 6 times in a row so far, so I'm happy with him. Doesn't mean I don't see room for improvement.
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None. Neither have you. So you can't tell me he is good then either. Odd that without playing you can pass positive judgment but others are not allowed to pass negative judgment.Falconfreak90 wrote:GT,
You say Schilz is awful. Tell me, how many years did you play QB at the Collegiate level? The dude is managing the offense and not making mistakes. Lighten up Francis....
