One winning season in the last 7 years and headed for 8!

[BGSU33]

Dammit, we deserve better than this! When is enough, enough? I am sick and tired of watching this crap for years. And we're going to have to sit through another damn season of it. Orr has had one winning season here. ONE. These are all his players, all of his recruits, his staff has remained intact, and it's just more miserable results. Yes we’re just a few games into the season. But after blowing two more games against D-I teams that we arguably woulda/coulda/shoulda beaten, and also off the heels of what we did last season to end the year (and our only win this year vs a damn D-II team we couldn’t shake all game long) - this team just might be Orr’s worst yet. We're supposed to believe and buy into this program, right? We come to games, buying season tickets, following losing basketball year after year, and for what? This??? Year after year we hear Orr preach defense and year after year we struggle like hell to shoot and score. And I am tired of listening to our coaches dance around the fact that we simply can’t shoot from outside! Damn, we’re not blind, just admit it and stop sugarcoating it already. We can’t shoot, we know that.

The MAC is a pretty damn good basketball conference and there are some pretty good teams and players in it. We have a brand new facility, but we have been a cellar dweller in the MAC. Period. We haven’t been a factor in years and nobody talks about us, is concerned or cares about us as being a factor - because frankly - we're not one. There are guys out there who can come lead this team, give it new life, bring players in here who can win. And right now, we need to find one. And I don’t care if that coach comes in, wins and leaves. He can come wipe his feet on us and I would love it. Because right now we're stuck spinning our wheels with a coach who, I believe, is in his final year of his contract, and is still playing a few guys who have no damn business playing D-I college basketball. We hear our AD talk about “tracking” a program and watching where it was, where it is, and where it is headed. Well we can ALL see where this one is and has been and we all know where it is going. The same damn place it has 6 of the last 7 years. It is time to change it and fix it. Now!

[Sub-Zero]

I totally agree. Hopefully we can replace our AD first, then hire the new B-Ball coach.

[factman]

[CrazyFan]

Its just sad. Not to toot my own horn, but Ive been calling for Louis Orr's removal as head coach for at least 3 years now because I saw and felt this program going in a very bad direction. Today, I think we are as close to hitting rock bottom as were going to be. Louis Orr has completely killed this program for atleast the next 3-4 years, because its going to take any new coach time to develop the players he inherits and bring his own players in. This program is way worse off than it was when Dakich wasnt renewed. To lose to an IUPUI team by 14 on a neutral court is totally disgusting. AND they didnt have their best player on the court. Just sickening. I'll say it one more time; time to cut Orr loose and move on. I would cut him loose tomorrow if it was my choice, and let one of the assistants see what life they can possible breath into the program for the rest of the year. And hopefully that clown in the AD position gets the same fate. BG Basketball doesnt deserve this mediocre, bottom dwelling coaching anymore. Our fans, donors and season ticket holders dont deserve this anymore. Its time to move on.

[BleedOrange]

Here's something to think about: There is only a small number of people out here calling for Orr to go. Now, why is that? Are there people out there that want him to stay but don't bother posting? Or, ....is the program so far down that very few people even give a fnck about BGSU basketball to begin with?

[guest44]

Orr has sucked all the life from the program. He has no energy, and it has no energy. Be good or be interesting. This program is neither. Say what you want about Dan Dakich. Atleast people cared. Some liked him, lots couldn't stand him, but atleast you had an opinion. This program atleast had a spine when Jackson was an assistant. How zero changes were made last year after the CMU meltdown is amazing to me. Hire or fire an assistant, just do something. Instead the offseason is spent adding 3 players that play 2 positions, also your deepest positions. We all saw this coming 3 years ago, and when Scott Thomas walked off the court last March before Cleveland, Orr should have been done.

[hammb]

I said going into last year that Orr hadn't shown enough to deserve his job but it made sense to give him a year where his first recruits were all seniors and he also had a good mix of underclassmen. Last year was his one year to prove to me that he could actually coach in this league. Not only did he not win the East, which I set as the expectation, they weren't even GOOD. Then they lost to a poor CMU team and couldn't even make it to Cleveland!? Sorry Orr has no business coaching this team.

I fully expected this team to be among his worst. None of the young guys got enough playing time to develop last year and the seniors on this team have never shown the ability to step up and lead a team.

And, as I expected it looks like we're giving 30 minutes per game to Orr and Kraus neither of whom has shown anything to prove they deserve a Division 1 scholarship, yet alone a starting job.

I'm looking forward to seeing the team play, but man my expectations are NOT high...and only being further crushed by what I've seen thus far.

[Class of 61]

Just a question re: Desmond Rorie ( who hasn't been really seen yet)....isn't he supposed to have a SUPERSTAR type brother (perhaps half bro-last name is different)...

I think the younger kid plays for Canton McKinley...wonder where he'll wind up? And wouldn't it be smart,....and logical for us to recruit him hard, assuming he hasn't committed elsewhere?

[Falconfreak90]

Here's something to think about: There is only a small number of people out here calling for Orr to go. Now, why is that? Are there people out there that want him to stay but don't bother posting? Or, ....is the program so far down that very few people even give a fnck about BGSU basketball to begin with?

I really hate to say it but men's hoops at BG ranks very low on my list of BG teams these days. I'd MUCH rather watch the women's team and hockey...and I love basketball. I had a lot of hope for Coach Orr in the beginning but look at the results. They speak for themselves. Get used to seeing 1,000 people in the Stroh on game day cuz that's what we'll have until a change is made. Just sad...

[Falcon137]

If there is 2,000 people at a men's game it is now considered a big crowd. In a brand new arena with all the amenities. If that doesn't show the discontent with the program, I don't know what will. People just don't care about this team any more.

[BleedOrange]

If there is 2,000 people at a men's game it is now considered a big crowd. In a brand new arena with all the amenities. If that doesn't show the discontent with the program, I don't know what will. People just don't care about this team any more.

Clearly, it's discontent, but there's much more to it below the surface. With each passing bad year, students show up on campus and the men's program never even gets on their radar screen. Meanwhile, students become alumni having no consciousness of the program. And this is one less major reason for alumni to identify with BGSU and stay involved as they get older.

[Globetrotter]

Just a question re: Desmond Rorie ( who hasn't been really seen yet)....isn't he supposed to have a SUPERSTAR type brother (perhaps half bro-last name is different)...

I think the younger kid plays for Canton McKinley...wonder where he'll wind up? And wouldn't it be smart,....and logical for us to recruit him hard, assuming he hasn't committed elsewhere?

He was a senior last year. Don't know what happened to him. I think he was overhyped on here.

[Falcon137]

If there is 2,000 people at a men's game it is now considered a big crowd. In a brand new arena with all the amenities. If that doesn't show the discontent with the program, I don't know what will. People just don't care about this team any more.

Clearly, it's discontent, but there's much more to it below the surface. With each passing bad year, students show up on campus and the men's program never even gets on their radar screen. Meanwhile, students become alumni having no consciousness of the program. And this is one less major reason for alumni to identify with BGSU and stay involved as they get older.

Yep.

The last back to back winning seasons was 2000-2001 (16-15) and 2001-2002 (26-9). Since then 2004-2005 (18-11) and 2008-2009 (20-14) have been the only winning seasons. 4 winning seasons in 12 years.

[Redwingtom]

And to make matters worse, Toledo has gone from a cheating team with a cheating coach to a division favorite in like three years.

Sorry Coach...you're a great person...you're just not cut out to be a basketball coach at this level.

[jpfalcon09]

I paid attention to the program when Dakich was here, only because he was interesting and his antics made the games fun to go to. Ever since Orr's been coach, I don't give the men's program a passing thought, and I'm not the only recent alum to do so. There's nothing exciting about the brand of basketball they play, Orr doesn't display emotion during the game to try and get the fans fired up, its watching a college basketball game in a Division II gym setting. I think GC is going to honor the rest of Orr's contract but there's no way he's back next year unless this year's team turns some heads and makes some noise in the MAC season/tourney.