Buffalo game

[bgsufalcon24]

I remember (wish I could forget) the Buffalo game at the Doyt in 2008 when we could clinch. It was a cold Friday evening before Thanksgiving break. The students were on campus. We couldn't have had more than 7000 fans out there.

I applaud the the Athletic Department for looking at attendance trends and trying something different. There is only so much we can do to promote these home games. I do think the 11am kickoff is unfortunate, but we cannot control this.

... BTW, Buffalo won the East that year going 5-3 in the MAC, damn.

13,284 was the announced...but yeah...it seemed much closer to the 9,000 range.

I was at that game in the band. I'm honestly not sure there were more than 2000 people at kickoff. That was the most empty I'd ever seen the Doyt for a game.

We typically do a pregame show before the game, but since less than 5 people showed up for it (I remember a father and his son being there who wanted to see the drumline) the band opted out of it. I felt really bad for the kid, especially after the game actually ended. The game was freezing cold and it snowed heavily for much of the first half. A lot of instruments in the band literally froze and stopped working. We were winning pretty comfortably for most of the game, so it wasn't that bad.

I know Clawson has the Humanitarian Bowl implosion under his belt (which honestly was mostly just Idaho being ballsy), but that was nothing in comparison to watching the entire BG team implode in the 4th quarter against Buffalo in 2008.

Just a reminder: BG was winning 27-7 against Buffalo with less than 13 minutes left in the 4th quarter during that game. That's a 20 point lead in the 4th quarter that we didn't hold on to. No, I do not miss Brandon one bit.

The Buffalo game in 2008 was maybe the biggest single debacle in the history of BGSU Football.

1.The game was scheduled for 6pm on a Friday. Most fans couldn't even get to the stadium before the end of the workday. If you were an out of towner then forget it.

2.It was extremely cold, probably in the 20s all game. I know that we don't have control over this, but it didn't help.

3.We had a 27-7 lead with 13 mins left, but if you think that sounds bad, consider this. BGSU led this game 27-13 with 3:29 left and was lining up for a 37-yard FG attempt. The FG was missed, Buffalo went right down and scored a TD, then recovered an onside kick and scored another TD to tie, then won it in 2OT.

4.Following the end of the game, the team dissed the band, not even bothering to stay on the field during the alma mater.

5.Gregg Brandon went out of his way in the postgame news conference to criticize the fans, as though it was their fault they had lost the game. Mind you, this was a season in which we had already lost at home to two of the worst teams in college football in Miami and Eastern Michigan.

Yeah...that was a bad day. Bad enough that I admit I was rooting for Toledo to beat us the next week in the hope that it would get Brandon fired. Ultimately we didn't even need that to get him canned, that's how big a debacle the 2008 Buffalo game was.

[AyZiggy97]

I remember (wish I could forget) the Buffalo game at the Doyt in 2008 when we could clinch. It was a cold Friday evening before Thanksgiving break. The students were on campus. We couldn't have had more than 7000 fans out there.

I applaud the the Athletic Department for looking at attendance trends and trying something different. There is only so much we can do to promote these home games. I do think the 11am kickoff is unfortunate, but we cannot control this.

... BTW, Buffalo won the East that year going 5-3 in the MAC, damn.

13,284 was the announced...but yeah...it seemed much closer to the 9,000 range.

I was at that game in the band. I'm honestly not sure there were more than 2000 people at kickoff. That was the most empty I'd ever seen the Doyt for a game.

We typically do a pregame show before the game, but since less than 5 people showed up for it (I remember a father and his son being there who wanted to see the drumline) the band opted out of it. I felt really bad for the kid, especially after the game actually ended. The game was freezing cold and it snowed heavily for much of the first half. A lot of instruments in the band literally froze and stopped working. We were winning pretty comfortably for most of the game, so it wasn't that bad.

I know Clawson has the Humanitarian Bowl implosion under his belt (which honestly was mostly just Idaho being ballsy), but that was nothing in comparison to watching the entire BG team implode in the 4th quarter against Buffalo in 2008.

Just a reminder: BG was winning 27-7 against Buffalo with less than 13 minutes left in the 4th quarter during that game. That's a 20 point lead in the 4th quarter that we didn't hold on to. No, I do not miss Brandon one bit.

Yeah, I'm not sure about the 7 thousand estimates or whatever. It was 2 thousand maximum at any point in time. A debacle by BGSU fans and the game itself.

[Redwingtom]

I remember a lot about that game, but I certainly don't remember this huge snow storm you talk about...lol

[Flipper]

For me...2008 ranks right up there with 2000 as the worst season of BG football. We lead in the 4th qtr of every single conference game...every single one...and we only won half of them. We lost at home to Miami and EMU when they were a combined 3-13 in the conference.

2010 sucked...but I understood that we were rebuilding and we'd see dividends down the road...like now...so you could live with a year like that. 2008 should have been a big year...instead it was a disaster.

[Beaker]

I remember a lot about that game, but I certainly don't remember this huge snow storm you talk about...lol

I was sitting down in the South endzone. The snow was falling, but it didn't amount to a big accumulation, unless you count what fell into the open plastic cups of beer, combining with the cold that literally turned them into beer slushies. I prefer to try and hold that as my memory of the game, rather than that 4th quarter collapse. After having sat through the Miami and EMU games already that season, I honestly was none too surprised that we collapsed the way we did. The handful of fans that remained to the end couldn't get out of that place fast enough, myself included. As I was exiting the southeast corner of the tent area as soon as it was over, I was literally almost pancaked by 4 sprinting and screaming Buffalo assistant coaches who were on a dead run from the West press boxes, heading for their locker room to celebrate with their team. I don't think I've ever seen a happier group of coaches and the looks on their faces were a mix of joy and bewilderment that they actually had just won the division. I recall thinking that as much as I pull for the Falcons, we didn't deserve to win the division based on our performances and I almost felt good for Buffalo, considering where their program had come from. Almost, but not too much.

[MarkL]

For me...2008 ranks right up there with 2000 as the worst season of BG football. We lead in the 4th qtr of every single conference game...every single one...and we only won half of them. We lost at home to Miami and EMU when they were a combined 3-13 in the conference.

2010 sucked...but I understood that we were rebuilding and we'd see dividends down the road...like now...so you could live with a year like that. 2008 should have been a big year...instead it was a disaster.

2008 was also so close to being one of the greatest seasons in recent history. Best defense of the Brandon era after 2003, great offensive line play. Four conference losses by a combined 17 points, 13 point loss to undefeated Boise State on the road with two red zone turnovers in the fourth quarter, loss to Minnesota that would have been a win sans fumbles. Small mistakes avalanched and doomed the team. The team didn't have the mental edge that they had in 2009. All those close games in 2009 turned out to be come from behind wins. If you could have combined the 2008 defense with the 2009 offense and mental edge, man that would have been a powerful team.

OK stop reminiscing. It's 2012. Beat KENT!

[AyZiggy97]

I remember a lot about that game, but I certainly don't remember this huge snow storm you talk about...lol

I was sitting down in the South endzone. The snow was falling, but it didn't amount to a big accumulation, unless you count what fell into the open plastic cups of beer, combining with the cold that literally turned them into beer slushies. I prefer to try and hold that as my memory of the game, rather than that 4th quarter collapse.

That's right. I remember the field looking like a snow globe at one point. But nothing stuck.

[thewebboy]

I'm really excited about this game, but I must admit it's weird seeing our logo on a field that is not the Doyt.

[Zig]

I remember a lot about that game, but I certainly don't remember this huge snow storm you talk about...lol

It happened early in the game and disappeared after the first quarter or so. My brain might be sensationalizing the amount, but during/before pregame I definitely remember seeing a pretty nice curtain of snowfall coming down.

[BGSU33]

I thought John Wagner asked Dave Clawson a great question about the idea of moving possible future home games to Columbus or a neutral site like this one down the road. We have all discussed this game over and over, the pros and cons even for us fans, but Wagner asked if the opponent wasn't Buffalo and was Ohio or Miami, would we be playing a home game away like this. Clawson said he didn't think about that before (and neither did I). But I must admit, no way would I want to be playing those teams away from the Doyt when it's a home game for us. I understand what we are trying to do this year with it being after Thanksgiving, and against an out of state opponent, and I admit I am curious about seeing this game at this location. But it's more because it's Buffalo. If this was Ohio, Miami or Kent State, I wouldn't want to be playing this game at a neutral site unless it was their home game and not ours.

I'm on board with this one but still would rather be playing at the Doyt. I like the idea if trying this this year, but unless it's UMass, Buffalo or a couple of the crossover West opponents, I do not want to see us give up a home game again. I wonder if any other MAC schools will try this next year if it does decently?

[Globetrotter]

I thought John Wagner asked Dave Clawson a great question about the idea of moving possible future home games to Columbus or a neutral site like this one down the road. We have all discussed this game over and over, the pros and cons even for us fans, but Wagner asked if the opponent wasn't Buffalo and was Ohio or Miami, would we be playing a home game away like this. Clawson said he didn't think about that before (and neither did I). But I must admit, no way would I want to be playing those teams away from the Doyt when it's a home game for us. I understand what we are trying to do this year with it being after Thanksgiving, and against an out of state opponent, and I admit I am curious about seeing this game at this location. But it's more because it's Buffalo. If this was Ohio, Miami or Kent State, I wouldn't want to be playing this game at a neutral site unless it was their home game and not ours.

I'm on board with this one but still would rather be playing at the Doyt. I like the idea if trying this this year, but unless it's UMass, Buffalo or a couple of the crossover West opponents, I do not want to see us give up a home game again. I wonder if any other MAC schools will try this next year if it does decently?

I really like the idea of doing this, but maybe we do it with teams with nearby locations that are not in our league. Purdue, Indiana, W Kentucky, Kentucky, Pitt, Marshall, Syracuse. Just a thought.

[Dayons_Den]

Another reactionary fallout from that 2008 season, if i recall correctly, was the brief appearance of Coach Brandon and or his wife on this very message board. Not pretty.

[Falcon137]

I thought John Wagner asked Dave Clawson a great question about the idea of moving possible future home games to Columbus or a neutral site like this one down the road. We have all discussed this game over and over, the pros and cons even for us fans, but Wagner asked if the opponent wasn't Buffalo and was Ohio or Miami, would we be playing a home game away like this. Clawson said he didn't think about that before (and neither did I). But I must admit, no way would I want to be playing those teams away from the Doyt when it's a home game for us. I understand what we are trying to do this year with it being after Thanksgiving, and against an out of state opponent, and I admit I am curious about seeing this game at this location. But it's more because it's Buffalo. If this was Ohio, Miami or Kent State, I wouldn't want to be playing this game at a neutral site unless it was their home game and not ours.

I'm on board with this one but still would rather be playing at the Doyt. I like the idea if trying this this year, but unless it's UMass, Buffalo or a couple of the crossover West opponents, I do not want to see us give up a home game again. I wonder if any other MAC schools will try this next year if it does decently?

I really like the idea of doing this, but maybe we do it with teams with nearby locations that are not in our league. Purdue, Indiana, W Kentucky, Kentucky, Pitt, Marshall, Syracuse. Just a thought.

It would never happen. But, I think it would be fun to do something like this with Ohio every year. Make the OU game the day after thanksgiving, each side gets 10,000 tickets to sell, alternate the home team each year.

[Globetrotter]

I thought John Wagner asked Dave Clawson a great question about the idea of moving possible future home games to Columbus or a neutral site like this one down the road. We have all discussed this game over and over, the pros and cons even for us fans, but Wagner asked if the opponent wasn't Buffalo and was Ohio or Miami, would we be playing a home game away like this. Clawson said he didn't think about that before (and neither did I). But I must admit, no way would I want to be playing those teams away from the Doyt when it's a home game for us. I understand what we are trying to do this year with it being after Thanksgiving, and against an out of state opponent, and I admit I am curious about seeing this game at this location. But it's more because it's Buffalo. If this was Ohio, Miami or Kent State, I wouldn't want to be playing this game at a neutral site unless it was their home game and not ours.

I'm on board with this one but still would rather be playing at the Doyt. I like the idea if trying this this year, but unless it's UMass, Buffalo or a couple of the crossover West opponents, I do not want to see us give up a home game again. I wonder if any other MAC schools will try this next year if it does decently?

I really like the idea of doing this, but maybe we do it with teams with nearby locations that are not in our league. Purdue, Indiana, W Kentucky, Kentucky, Pitt, Marshall, Syracuse. Just a thought.

It would never happen. But, I think it would be fun to do something like this with Ohio every year. Make the OU game the day after thanksgiving, each side gets 10,000 tickets to sell, alternate the home team each year.

I like it. After we move to D2 and OU, Miami, Toledo, Kent and Akron go to the Big East it is more likely

[Falconfreak90]

I have vowed to never think of the 2008 UB game...damn, guess I just did.