Win or lose...

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Globetrotter wrote:With Maryland and Rutgers headed apparently to the big ten we are another step closer to being division two. I'd love to say I would follow this team no matter what but the mac championship means little more to me then my hs winning a championship. I assume as we become more and more nationally invisible the product will get worse and worse and we won't be much different then Findlay in fifteen years
This is exactly why I have less and less interest in the BCS. I would have more interest in BG playing Findlay than Ohio State playing Rutgers.

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Globetrotter wrote:With Maryland and Rutgers headed apparently to the big ten we are another step closer to being division two. I'd love to say I would follow this team no matter what but the mac championship means little more to me then my hs winning a championship. I assume as we become more and more nationally invisible the product will get worse and worse and we won't be much different then Findlay in fifteen years
Clearly you do not understand the severity of the bullsh*t you litter this message board with on a regular basis.

BG won't be much different than Findlay in 15 years? Folks...bookmark this one for reading in November of 2027 if you want a good laugh.
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BGorDeath wrote:
Globetrotter wrote:With Maryland and Rutgers headed apparently to the big ten we are another step closer to being division two. I'd love to say I would follow this team no matter what but the mac championship means little more to me then my hs winning a championship. I assume as we become more and more nationally invisible the product will get worse and worse and we won't be much different then Findlay in fifteen years
This is exactly why I have less and less interest in the BCS. I would have more interest in BG playing Findlay than Ohio State playing Rutgers.

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I had a blast at the game today. Best football game I've witnessed there, since I started going to games. It was also the most "into it" I have seen a crowd at the Doyt.

As far as realignment goes, I'll worry about it when something actually happens. Everyone was freaking out that BG was going to be irrelevant, teams from the MAC would be leaving, yada, yada, yada. None of it happened. If in 15 years the top 4 are only playing each other, I'll worry about it in 15 years.

I'm going to enjoy rooting for this team against Buffalo, in a bowl game and then recruiting in the off season. Not worry about a bunch of hypotheticals.

2, 5, 7 (*so far), I'd say the program is on the right trajectory.
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That was the best game I've seen at the Doyt since the 2OT game against Toledo. Game had ups and downs, the crowd was vocal. I'm excited for the future of this program for the first time in ten years. I'm not gonna comment about the negative comments in here, because this team still has improving to do, and I think we can be in the position Kent was this year, next year. All I can say is, if you think BG football should be playing at the FCS level, then please leave this fan board and go root for the countless programs who have to cheat to win. I'll gladly take my Falcons and doing it right every day of the year.
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First of all....I blame Hammb.

Now that I got that out of my system, I must say that I am pleased with how the season has turned out. The team is 7-4, maybe 8-4, with a great shot at a bowl game. After last year, I said that if the team improved as much from that year to the next as it did from the year before to then, we would be impressive to watch. That happened. Now I will say that if it happens again, the team will be tough for anyone (MAC or otherwise) to beat.

Clawson took over a mess. The team had a handful of skill position players that could occasionally make games interesting, but was fundamentally weak and lacked depth. This was why we never knew what team would show up on any given week. Sometimes the team would look incredible, and then the next week they would look like crap. Basically, we were just hoping that we found ourselves with an incredibly favorable schedule, and that the right BGSU team showed up on the one or two big games our weak schedule presented. All of this had to be reversed, while cleaning up off the field and APR issues, and with the knowledge that increasing APR standards were on the horizon.

Going forward, I believe we are in good shape because there has been constant improvement over the last 2 years, and that improvement has become reliable from week to week. If you look at our schedule, it is very apparent that once our passing game got into a little bit of a rhythm our team had a very consistent product that could beat most any team in our conference.

Look at the schedules of the other noteworthy teams in the conference, and you will see that from week to week it is difficult to predict which team will show up. One week they'll knock off a ranked BCS school, the next they almost lose (if they don't) to the likes of EMU or whoever. Basically, the other teams in our conference are trying to do what we were trying to do when Brandon was here.

The team is on the right track. As the younger players on the team become veterans, and new talent comes in to provide depth, this team is going to be tough. What's more, the big conference schools don't seem to be targeting coaches who have this approach. Therefore, once we get there, it should be sustainable.
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Yes..numerically it might not have been a "great" crowd, but the enthusiasm and noise level were awesome. I could give a 3F (fat flying f**k) about the B1G...this soon to be nonsensical "Midwestern" conference that runs from the Atlantic to the Great Plains...I'm a Falcon.
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Falcon137 wrote:I had a blast at the game today. Best football game I've witnessed there, since I started going to games. It was also the most "into it" I have seen a crowd at the Doyt.

As far as realignment goes, I'll worry about it when something actually happens. Everyone was freaking out that BG was going to be irrelevant, teams from the MAC would be leaving, yada, yada, yada. None of it happened. If in 15 years the top 4 are only playing each other, I'll worry about it in 15 years.

I'm going to enjoy rooting for this team against Buffalo, in a bowl game and then recruiting in the off season. Not worry about a bunch of hypotheticals.

2, 5, 7 (*so far), I'd say the program is on the right trajectory.
I think that's a healthy attitude that I will try to emulate. Living in the now is always wise.
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jpfalcon09 wrote:That was the best game I've seen at the Doyt since the 2OT game against Toledo. Game had ups and downs, the crowd was vocal. I'm excited for the future of this program for the first time in ten years. I'm not gonna comment about the negative comments in here, because this team still has improving to do, and I think we can be in the position Kent was this year, next year. All I can say is, if you think BG football should be playing at the FCS level, then please leave this fan board and go root for the countless programs who have to cheat to win. I'll gladly take my Falcons and doing it right every day of the year.
Were on a discussion board, it should allow for lots of different types of opinions.
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BG and the MAC will be ok in the alignment. Not perfect but the avenue to remain (along with MWC, CUSA, etc) within the 1-A ranks even within the new Championship configuration is clear. But we cant continue down the same path as the past 6 years with our current AD. His tenure has been less than stellar. How sad is it that we are left to relish a close game with Kent as the new bar for success. We will likely have to fire/replace most (perhaps all the mens programs) of his hires. He simply is unable to assess coaching talent which at a MAC program is fatal. The AD is the most important position on campus outside of the President and we dont have the kind of leading edge talent required from Mr. Christopher. I am sure he is an able administrator and could excel as a #2 or #3 guy, but he doesn't have the chops to be THE guy at my alma mater.
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Sub-Zero wrote:BG and the MAC will be ok in the alignment. Not perfect but the avenue to remain (along with MWC, CUSA, etc) within the 1-A ranks even within the new Championship configuration is clear. But we cant continue down the same path as the past 6 years with our current AD. His tenure has been less than stellar. How sad is it that we are left to relish a close game with Kent as the new bar for success. We will likely have to fire/replace most (perhaps all the mens programs) of his hires. He simply is unable to assess coaching talent which at a MAC program is fatal. The AD is the most important position on campus outside of the President and we dont have the kind of leading edge talent required from Mr. Christopher. I am sure he is an able administrator and could excel as a #2 or #3 guy, but he doesn't have the chops to be THE guy at my alma mater.
I like Clawson and Bergeron. Clawson especially is putting the football program on a healthy consistent track with tons of depth.

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It's pretty rare to see me not be totally pissed off by a loss, but honestly that was just a GREAT football game against 2 VERY good football teams. Unfortunately Kent's offensive strength proved to be a bit too good for our defensive strength. Still, a back and forth game that comes down to a failed 4th down in the redzone late. 4 TDs of over 50 yards (I think that sounds about right). C'mon who could complain about that?

The bottom line is that Kent team is a fantastic MAC football team. And we went toe to toe with them and were just a bit outmanned. It happens, but that was still a great football game.
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The team and program are headed in the right direction. Last year's team would have shut it down and let that game become a blowout when we were down 10-0. I really wish we would have won but I take some comfort that there are 2 MAC teams ranked for the first time in a long time. I think we can and should be a top 25 team next year with the depth we have developed. Non-conference games at Miss St, at Indiana, Murray St and Tulsa are all winnable games and I hope we can come out of the those games at least 3-1.

We're close.
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Right on kdog. The last two minutes of the first half were a perfect example of this team compared to last year. We were pinned deep and managed to gain a few yards, avoid a safety, get a good punt off, make a good defensive stand and keep Kent from scoring again. That doesn't happen the last couple years. That would have spelled disaster and no doubt. Those last two minutes were flawless IMO.
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