Kirk Herbstreit

[Globetrotter]

I loved him saying, "Don't get me wrong, I love MAC football."
Really? Could have fooled me....

Yeah....thats like saying "no offense...but....here is the most offensive thing I can say." Dude I said no offense.

[hammb]

My sentiments are pretty much shared by everyone here. I heard Herbstreit and the others on GameDay Saturday saying that there was no way in hell Boise (this year) or NIU, or any other non BCS teams should be eligible for a BCS game this year. Their logic was that those teams should only ever get a bid if they are undefeated.

I think that sentiment is total bullshit. Not once were they saying how Wisconsin didn't deserve to be there (they don't). Just ridiculous.

Basically the entire BCS system is set up to dick us over and make sure we never got a piece of the pie. Then lawsuits got us this tiny little cookie. It's not even a good deal when you think about it. They have to be in the top 16 AND be better than one of the AQ teams? Shouldn't they just have to be better than the AQ teams? Whatever...they threw us the cookie and this time the MAC is the beneficiary.

Personally I think NIU is good, but they're gonna have a tough time with FSU. Too bad they don't get to play Wisconsin I think they'd have a shot there, but oh well. They're not going to lose any worse than Hawaii did to GA a few years back. Maybe they should realize that this whole system is a joke and they should start that 16 team playoff. Then we'd get our yearly bone thrown to us and the other teams would STILL get a shot at a national title. Not our fault that your shitty system designed to ensure we never get any money was deemed illegal and now you have to throw us an occasional bone.

AFAIC Boise should be in too...they're better than Wisconsin.

[Globetrotter]

Here’s what another writer on Yahoo! said:
Who is excited for Florida State-Northern Illinois in the Orange? I mean, other than nobody? NIU must take 17,500 tickets for the game, but its season average attendance is 15,670. Enjoy that vat of red ink you’re diving into, Huskies.
Making that game even more enticing is the fact that NIU coach Dave Doeren left the school faster than Kim Kardashian left Kris Humphries. He went from winning the Mid-American Conference championship game Friday night to being announced as the new coach at North Carolina State Saturday afternoon. He won’t be around for the Orange Bowl, instead turning the biggest game in school history over to an interim coach

[kdog27]

Deep down I think Kirk fears a MAC school might do well in this game while the Big Ten has an awful bowl and BCS record lately.

[Globetrotter]

My sentiments are pretty much shared by everyone here. I heard Herbstreit and the others on GameDay Saturday saying that there was no way in hell Boise (this year) or NIU, or any other non BCS teams should be eligible for a BCS game this year. Their logic was that those teams should only ever get a bid if they are undefeated.

I think that sentiment is total bullshit. Not once were they saying how Wisconsin didn't deserve to be there (they don't). Just ridiculous.

Basically the entire BCS system is set up to dick us over and make sure we never got a piece of the pie. Then lawsuits got us this tiny little cookie. It's not even a good deal when you think about it. They have to be in the top 16 AND be better than one of the AQ teams? Shouldn't they just have to be better than the AQ teams? Whatever...they threw us the cookie and this time the MAC is the beneficiary.

Personally I think NIU is good, but they're gonna have a tough time with FSU. Too bad they don't get to play Wisconsin I think they'd have a shot there, but oh well. They're not going to lose any worse than Hawaii did to GA a few years back. Maybe they should realize that this whole system is a joke and they should start that 16 team playoff. Then we'd get our yearly bone thrown to us and the other teams would STILL get a shot at a national title. Not our fault that your shitty system designed to ensure we never get any money was deemed illegal and now you have to throw us an occasional bone.

AFAIC Boise should be in too...they're better than Wisconsin.

Great point on Boise State. I copied it and posted it to my facebook. We shall see all of the OSU fans explode. Come watch.

[transfer2BGSU]

I thought I was watching a replay of Billy Packer going off on the chair of the D-1 Tournament Selection Committee.

NIU playing in a BC$ game is a joke?

Hey Kirk! The joke is on YOU!

[Warthog]

What I found most interesting ...and someone FINALLY menitoned something late in the show...was that there was not this level of complaining when Boise came in (and beat) Okla....then Utah knocked off Ala. when they were supposed to get creamed.... then TCU crashed their little 17million dollar "party".

Not defending Herbstreit at all. But his point about Bosie, TCU, Utah was that those teams all were undefeated. They had a marquee win over a BCS school. The hype around those teams had been building for months. That's why they got in.

NIU on the other hand isn't undefeated, beat no one of consequence except for Kent in the MAC Championship. And their was zero hype for NIU to be in a BCS game. It was more of an afterthought heading into the final weekend of the season.

I understand what he is saying, but the system still is based on what the computers calculate. And for whatever reason, the computers DID have NIU ranked mostly in the top 15.

I get his and others frustration. But I think this was really a perfect storm of a season for NIU. With Ohio State not being eligible, the Big East falling apart as teams leave the conference, SIX SEC teams in the final top 10 BCS rankings when only 2 can go to BCS bowls. It might not be pretty, but the system is what it is and NIU meant the criteria to get invited to a BCS game. Don't hate on them. Hate on the system that let it happen.

[jpfalcon09]

Herbstreit should be blaming Rutgers for losing to Kent State, not blaming NIU for getting here. Without that win, its highly likely that NIU even cracks the top 20 and faces a team ranked higher than them in the MACCG. The MAC helped the MAC this year, people need to realize it, respect it and get over it. 4 MAC teams in the top 50 of the BCS.

[manager]

Surprised Herbie didn't claim OSU should get a last-minute pardon so that it could play. He's just a shill in my book. Go Huskies, Falcons and all the rest of the MAC........

[BGFalconfromCincy]

He is basically just trying to say this just isn't the right matchup. The fans (outside MAC) dont want to see Florida St play NIU? They want to see LSU play Oklahoma. Instead that game can't happen and thats a shame because most college football fans want to see a big game.

Uh it would have been Florida playing Oklahoma not LSU. 2 teams per conference limit, Bama being two got them the title game, Florida being three gave them an automatic spot since they weren't a conference champion. LSU was going to a BCS bowl either way

[Warthog]

To me, the biggest flaw in the system is that Georgia gets screwed because it played well enough all season to win its division. They beat Florida and won their division, yet since they played an extra game that they lost (to a team rated higher than them, so the outcome was as expected), they fall all the way to 8th or whatever even though you could still argue they are the third best team. I think any loss in a conference championship game should not be counted against a team when calculating the final BCS standings. Or cap the number of games in the calculation at 12 (throw out the worst game if you played 13). Or after taking the conference champions, then the other division winner gets preference over any other team that was in their same division.

[hammb]

To me, the biggest flaw in the system is that Georgia gets screwed because it played well enough all season to win its division. They beat Florida and won their division, yet since they played an extra game that they lost (to a team rated higher than them, so the outcome was as expected), they fall all the way to 8th or whatever even though you could still argue they are the third best team. I think any loss in a conference championship game should not be counted against a team when calculating the final BCS standings. Or cap the number of games in the calculation at 12 (throw out the worst game if you played 13). Or after taking the conference champions, then the other division winner gets preference over any other team that was in their same division.

I would agree with you. Georgia being ranked 7th in the final standings while UF gets in is a much bigger flaw in the system, IMO.

[kdog27]

Florida might have lost to Georgia but they own 4 wins against the top 12. Hard to argue with them though.

[Rollo83]

I say it again...I have no problem with What Herbstreit said. Could he have said it a little better without sounding like he's trashing the MAC? Maybe? I also think we as MAC fans are little sensitive to this issue.

The whole point of the BCS was to have a better way of determining a national champion and have the best match-ups in the five BCS bowl games. I think Kirk is just lamenting the fact that this system failed...again!

I love the MAC, but do you really think NIU is one of the 10 best football teams in the country?

[jpfalcon09]

I say it again...I have no problem with What Herbstreit said. Could he have said it a little better without sounding like he's trashing the MAC? Maybe? I also think we as MAC fans are little sensitive to this issue.

The whole point of the BCS was to have a better way of determining a national champion and have the best match-ups in the five BCS bowl games. I think Kirk is just lamenting the fact that this system failed...again!

I love the MAC, but do you really think NIU is one of the 10 best football teams in the country?

No, but according to the rankings, neither are FSU, Wisconsin and Louisville. So half the teams in the BCS are not top-10 caliber.