Tickets for BG vs MSU in December

[factman]

It's interesting that no one on the board is upset, because they bought the 3 game package "deal" thinking that was the only way to get tickets for the MSU game, only to find that they are now offering tickets for just MSU. I guess no one bought the package!

Good idea..........didn't work! Wonder how long it will be until the price drops.

[Globetrotter]

Maybe if MSU played BG HS. Where is Vito going again? I don't remember being super impressed with him from his Zapruder films and I know we have some that have seen him in person.

Wisconsin. Vito is plenty talented and is probably the best basketball player playing in BG.

From what people have written about him, he strikes me as the type of guy to flake out at a big school after not receiving a ton of playing time and then transferring out/down to a school closer to home. Thats my hope anyway .

[BGSU33]

Does anyone know if this game is expected to sell out? I have my tickets, and cringe even asking this question for our high-school sized arena, but I was must wondering of anyone knew what tickets sales look like?

[BleedOrange]

It's interesting that no one on the board is upset, because they bought the 3 game package "deal" thinking that was the only way to get tickets for the MSU game, only to find that they are now offering tickets for just MSU. I guess no one bought the package!

Good idea..........didn't work! Wonder how long it will be until the price drops.

No, it obviously WASN'T a good idea, now was it? It might sound like a good idea at first blush. However, in principle, FORCING people to pay for THREE things when they only want ONE thing is shitty, imo. It's a form a gouging, it's opportunistic, and poor way to treat customers. With s**t like this, the "crowd gestapo", and body searches, this athletic department has proven to have no business sense whatsoever.

[hammb]

It's interesting that no one on the board is upset, because they bought the 3 game package "deal" thinking that was the only way to get tickets for the MSU game, only to find that they are now offering tickets for just MSU. I guess no one bought the package!

Good idea..........didn't work! Wonder how long it will be until the price drops.

No, it obviously WASN'T a good idea, now was it? It might sound like a good idea at first blush. However, in principle, FORCING people to pay for THREE things when they only want ONE thing is shitty, imo. It's a form a gouging, it's opportunistic, and poor way to treat customers. With s**t like this, the "crowd gestapo", and body searches, this athletic department has proven to have no business sense whatsoever.

BS! It is a great idea by the athletic department. It's what mid majors all over the country do. When they get a big time home opponent they use that to leverage sales for other games. And by offering the tickets for $45 you're basically getting 3 games for about the same as you would pay if you were buying individual seats to 3 random games. Personally if I didn't have season tickets I'd MUCH rather have a deal like this on the table than paying double price for just the MSU game. I suppose at the end it would have made sense to offer both deals right away, MSU tix cost more, but offer the 3 game deal as well. Still, it is FAR from bad business sense to leverage the MSU game into increasing revenue and hopefully attendance at other games this year as well.

When UT hosted Boise a couple years ago the only way to get seats up until the last minute was buying season tickets. That wasn't bad business sense, it was smart.

[NY-BG-FAN]

People complain the athletic department doesn't do enough to help attendance, then they complain when the athletic department uses a big event to help attendance. Makes sense.

[zete]

Games like this (MSU) should not need marketing techniques like the one they used - 3 games.

[Globetrotter]

Games like this (MSU) should not need marketing techniques like the one they used - 3 games.

I think you have this one confused. They were using the MSU game to sell tickets to other games.

[zete]

Ok got it.

[NY-BG-FAN]

Games like this (MSU) should not need marketing techniques like the one they used - 3 games.

I don't think you get it. The demand for this game will drive sales for games not as in demand. AKA, a great idea.

Go Falcons...it's going to be fun seeing Tom Izzo and MSU in our arena before a national audience.

[BleedOrange]

It's interesting that no one on the board is upset, because they bought the 3 game package "deal" thinking that was the only way to get tickets for the MSU game, only to find that they are now offering tickets for just MSU. I guess no one bought the package!

Good idea..........didn't work! Wonder how long it will be until the price drops.

No, it obviously WASN'T a good idea, now was it? It might sound like a good idea at first blush. However, in principle, FORCING people to pay for THREE things when they only want ONE thing is shitty, imo. It's a form a gouging, it's opportunistic, and poor way to treat customers. With s**t like this, the "crowd gestapo", and body searches, this athletic department has proven to have no business sense whatsoever.

BS! It is a great idea by the athletic department. It's what mid majors all over the country do. When they get a big time home opponent they use that to leverage sales for other games. And by offering the tickets for $45 you're basically getting 3 games for about the same as you would pay if you were buying individual seats to 3 random games. Personally if I didn't have season tickets I'd MUCH rather have a deal like this on the table than paying double price for just the MSU game. I suppose at the end it would have made sense to offer both deals right away, MSU tix cost more, but offer the 3 game deal as well. Still, it is FAR from bad business sense to leverage the MSU game into increasing revenue and hopefully attendance at other games this year as well.

When UT hosted Boise a couple years ago the only way to get seats up until the last minute was buying season tickets. That wasn't bad business sense, it was smart.

Hammb, you're confusing short-term cash generation with good business sense. These are separate concepts and are often at odds. What you are missing is that customers get screwed into spending extra money for something undesired to get something they DO want. I understand that technique might, and I say might, generate extra cash and a little more attendance at other games, but puts off and annoys people that don't want to be forced into that choice. Fan and community relations takes hit - BG can least-afford to neglect this aspect of its sports marketing. So, the business sense sucks, actually. It may generate revenue, but better business sense would be to a) enhance fan experience at the games they actually go to, b) provide a quality product.

Opportunistically fu**ing people out of their cash never makes good business sense if you're trying to develop a solid, permanent following, which we should be trying to do. And in BG's case this particular season, the risk of backfiring is substantial....as we can plainly observe.

[guest44]

Can we just start a Louis Orr buyout fund?

[hammb]

It's interesting that no one on the board is upset, because they bought the 3 game package "deal" thinking that was the only way to get tickets for the MSU game, only to find that they are now offering tickets for just MSU. I guess no one bought the package!

Good idea..........didn't work! Wonder how long it will be until the price drops.

No, it obviously WASN'T a good idea, now was it? It might sound like a good idea at first blush. However, in principle, FORCING people to pay for THREE things when they only want ONE thing is shitty, imo. It's a form a gouging, it's opportunistic, and poor way to treat customers. With s**t like this, the "crowd gestapo", and body searches, this athletic department has proven to have no business sense whatsoever.

BS! It is a great idea by the athletic department. It's what mid majors all over the country do. When they get a big time home opponent they use that to leverage sales for other games. And by offering the tickets for $45 you're basically getting 3 games for about the same as you would pay if you were buying individual seats to 3 random games. Personally if I didn't have season tickets I'd MUCH rather have a deal like this on the table than paying double price for just the MSU game. I suppose at the end it would have made sense to offer both deals right away, MSU tix cost more, but offer the 3 game deal as well. Still, it is FAR from bad business sense to leverage the MSU game into increasing revenue and hopefully attendance at other games this year as well.

When UT hosted Boise a couple years ago the only way to get seats up until the last minute was buying season tickets. That wasn't bad business sense, it was smart.

Hammb, you're confusing short-term cash generation with good business sense. These are separate concepts and are often at odds. What you are missing is that customers get screwed into spending extra money for something undesired to get something they DO want. I understand that technique might, and I say might, generate extra cash and a little more attendance at other games, but puts off and annoys people that don't want to be forced into that choice. Fan and community relations takes hit - BG can least-afford to neglect this aspect of its sports marketing. So, the business sense sucks, actually. It may generate revenue, but better business sense would be to a) enhance fan experience at the games they actually go to, b) provide a quality product.

Opportunistically fu**ing people out of their cash never makes good business sense if you're trying to develop a solid, permanent following, which we should be trying to do. And in BG's case this particular season, the risk of backfiring is substantial....as we can plainly observe.

I disagree.

The only way this creates any sort of issue is if the fanbase feels entitled, as BG fans seem to be. They feel they're entitled to the cheapest tickets imaginable for all sporting events. They feel entitled to buy those tickets and then sit wherever they feel like. They feel entitled to go to a sporting event and bring in their own food/drink. etc, etc.

Sure the gameday experience could use some improvements but for the most part what people bitch about on here is stuff that is general policy at sporting venues throughout the country.

I firmly believe in supply and demand. The MSU game will be in higher demand, so the price should raise accordingly. Rather than actually raising the prices of those MSU tickets the department offered a 3 game package that allowed them to basically get tickets to 3 games, including the high demand one, at normal price. Now they're also offering the MSU tickets as a single game at an inflated (market value?) price. That makes sense to me. My only beef with the department is that I think they should have offered both options initially, but so be it...we all knew that single game tickets would become available if they didn't sell out with the 3 game packs.

As far as I'm concerned the bitching is just people at BG thinking that the department should always have been run the way it used to be run. Sure, I miss some of the things that we used to get away with too, but that doesn't make it wrong. Lots of venues don't allow you to bring in your own food. Lots of venues perform a security search before going into a game. Lots of venues check your tickets to make sure you're seated where you're supposed to be. And inflating ticket prices for premium events is common practice in sports, both professional AND college.

I have my beefs with the AD for allowing the basketball program to get where it is, and I'll be right there to carry Orr and his staff right out of town if that's an option. Not going to deny that the product sucks and has sucked for awhile now. But I think it's crazy how much BG fans are complaining about stuff like this which is basically just our Athletic Department FINALLY starting to operate a bit how all other Athletic Departments do.

[BGFalconfromCincy]

The only way this creates any sort of issue is if the fanbase feels entitled, as BG fans seem to be. They feel they're entitled to the cheapest tickets imaginable for all sporting events. They feel entitled to buy those tickets and then sit wherever they feel like. They feel entitled to go to a sporting event and bring in their own food/drink. etc, etc.

Sure the gameday experience could use some improvements but for the most part what people bitch about on here is stuff that is general policy at sporting venues throughout the country.

As far as I'm concerned the bitching is just people at BG thinking that the department should always have been run the way it used to be run. Sure, I miss some of the things that we used to get away with too, but that doesn't make it wrong. Lots of venues don't allow you to bring in your own food. Lots of venues perform a security search before going into a game. Lots of venues check your tickets to make sure you're seated where you're supposed to be. And inflating ticket prices for premium events is common practice in sports, both professional AND college.

I have my beefs with the AD for allowing the basketball program to get where it is, and I'll be right there to carry Orr and his staff right out of town if that's an option. Not going to deny that the product sucks and has sucked for awhile now. But I think it's crazy how much BG fans are complaining about stuff like this which is basically just our Athletic Department FINALLY starting to operate a bit how all other Athletic Departments do.

[footballguy51]

It's interesting that no one on the board is upset, because they bought the 3 game package "deal" thinking that was the only way to get tickets for the MSU game, only to find that they are now offering tickets for just MSU. I guess no one bought the package!

Good idea..........didn't work! Wonder how long it will be until the price drops.

No, it obviously WASN'T a good idea, now was it? It might sound like a good idea at first blush. However, in principle, FORCING people to pay for THREE things when they only want ONE thing is shitty, imo. It's a form a gouging, it's opportunistic, and poor way to treat customers. With s**t like this, the "crowd gestapo", and body searches, this athletic department has proven to have no business sense whatsoever.

BS! It is a great idea by the athletic department. It's what mid majors all over the country do. When they get a big time home opponent they use that to leverage sales for other games. And by offering the tickets for $45 you're basically getting 3 games for about the same as you would pay if you were buying individual seats to 3 random games. Personally if I didn't have season tickets I'd MUCH rather have a deal like this on the table than paying double price for just the MSU game. I suppose at the end it would have made sense to offer both deals right away, MSU tix cost more, but offer the 3 game deal as well. Still, it is FAR from bad business sense to leverage the MSU game into increasing revenue and hopefully attendance at other games this year as well.

When UT hosted Boise a couple years ago the only way to get seats up until the last minute was buying season tickets. That wasn't bad business sense, it was smart.

Hammb, you're confusing short-term cash generation with good business sense. These are separate concepts and are often at odds. What you are missing is that customers get screwed into spending extra money for something undesired to get something they DO want. I understand that technique might, and I say might, generate extra cash and a little more attendance at other games, but puts off and annoys people that don't want to be forced into that choice. Fan and community relations takes hit - BG can least-afford to neglect this aspect of its sports marketing. So, the business sense sucks, actually. It may generate revenue, but better business sense would be to a) enhance fan experience at the games they actually go to, b) provide a quality product.

Opportunistically fu**ing people out of their cash never makes good business sense if you're trying to develop a solid, permanent following, which we should be trying to do. And in BG's case this particular season, the risk of backfiring is substantial....as we can plainly observe.

I disagree.

The only way this creates any sort of issue is if the fanbase feels entitled, as BG fans seem to be. They feel they're entitled to the cheapest tickets imaginable for all sporting events. They feel entitled to buy those tickets and then sit wherever they feel like. They feel entitled to go to a sporting event and bring in their own food/drink. etc, etc.

Sure the gameday experience could use some improvements but for the most part what people bitch about on here is stuff that is general policy at sporting venues throughout the country.

I firmly believe in supply and demand. The MSU game will be in higher demand, so the price should raise accordingly. Rather than actually raising the prices of those MSU tickets the department offered a 3 game package that allowed them to basically get tickets to 3 games, including the high demand one, at normal price. Now they're also offering the MSU tickets as a single game at an inflated (market value?) price. That makes sense to me. My only beef with the department is that I think they should have offered both options initially, but so be it...we all knew that single game tickets would become available if they didn't sell out with the 3 game packs.

As far as I'm concerned the bitching is just people at BG thinking that the department should always have been run the way it used to be run. Sure, I miss some of the things that we used to get away with too, but that doesn't make it wrong. Lots of venues don't allow you to bring in your own food. Lots of venues perform a security search before going into a game. Lots of venues check your tickets to make sure you're seated where you're supposed to be. And inflating ticket prices for premium events is common practice in sports, both professional AND college.

I have my beefs with the AD for allowing the basketball program to get where it is, and I'll be right there to carry Orr and his staff right out of town if that's an option. Not going to deny that the product sucks and has sucked for awhile now. But I think it's crazy how much BG fans are complaining about stuff like this which is basically just our Athletic Department FINALLY starting to operate a bit how all other Athletic Departments do.

I agree with you in regards to checking tickets for seats. If you want better seats, buy the tickets for those seats. The football stadium is notorious for this, and I imagine the basketball arena is as well (I haven't been to a basketball game in years). I could buy a General Admission ticket and end up on the 50 yard line by just wandering into that area. As long as nobody came to look for those seats, I was good. However, when I had season tickets, I made people move from my seats for almost every game. I paid the price for those seats, so I wanted those seats.