Tickets for BG vs MSU in December

[Flipper]

As usual...agree with hammb...would also add that packaging the MSU tickets in the manner that they did should build the fanbase. You get more people interested in your product by getting them in front of your product....unless your product is really dull and no amount of polishing that turd will make it a diamond.

Also agree that our fans are kinda whiny....we've had people complain about waiting for a stoppage in play to return to their seats. They're actually shining about not being allowed to be rude to others...

[ccollin13]

It's interesting that no one on the board is upset, because they bought the 3 game package "deal" thinking that was the only way to get tickets for the MSU game, only to find that they are now offering tickets for just MSU. I guess no one bought the package!

Good idea..........didn't work! Wonder how long it will be until the price drops.

The 3-game flex pack is the first time I've bought men's basketball tickets, and it will be the last time. All I wanted was a ticket to the Michigan State game. I was told very aggressively by the ticket office that this would be the ONLY way to get a ticket to the Michigan State game and therefore the three-game flex pack was justified.

Then I find out a month later that single-game tickets are now available. I contacted Athletics and I was told "Your seats will be better than the single-game ticket holders." Which admittedly, is true. However, the staff at the ticket office lied to me when they sad no single-game tickets would be available. Ok, I'll go see three men's basketball games. I understand my seats are better and I understand that many mid-majors do this when they have big-name opponents on the schedule. I know a ticket to an MSU game is probably more than $45. But did athletics need to LIE to me to get me to buy the flex package?

So here's your complaint. The ticket office has officially pissed off a WBB season ticket holder. I won't be buying men's tickets again.

[Globetrotter]

It's interesting that no one on the board is upset, because they bought the 3 game package "deal" thinking that was the only way to get tickets for the MSU game, only to find that they are now offering tickets for just MSU. I guess no one bought the package!

Good idea..........didn't work! Wonder how long it will be until the price drops.

The 3-game flex pack is the first time I've bought men's basketball tickets, and it will be the last time. All I wanted was a ticket to the Michigan State game. I was told very aggressively by the ticket office that this would be the ONLY way to get a ticket to the Michigan State game and therefore the three-game flex pack was justified.

Then I find out a month later that single-game tickets are now available. I contacted Athletics and I was told "Your seats will be better than the single-game ticket holders." Which admittedly, is true. However, the staff at the ticket office lied to me when they sad no single-game tickets would be available. Ok, I'll go see three men's basketball games. I understand my seats are better and I understand that many mid-majors do this when they have big-name opponents on the schedule. I know a ticket to an MSU game is probably more than $45. But did athletics need to LIE to me to get me to buy the flex package?

So here's your complaint. The ticket office has officially pissed off a WBB season ticket holder. I won't be buying men's tickets again.

They didn't lie. They probably thought that was true when they talked to you.

[footballguy51]

It's interesting that no one on the board is upset, because they bought the 3 game package "deal" thinking that was the only way to get tickets for the MSU game, only to find that they are now offering tickets for just MSU. I guess no one bought the package!

Good idea..........didn't work! Wonder how long it will be until the price drops.

The 3-game flex pack is the first time I've bought men's basketball tickets, and it will be the last time. All I wanted was a ticket to the Michigan State game. I was told very aggressively by the ticket office that this would be the ONLY way to get a ticket to the Michigan State game and therefore the three-game flex pack was justified.

Then I find out a month later that single-game tickets are now available. I contacted Athletics and I was told "Your seats will be better than the single-game ticket holders." Which admittedly, is true. However, the staff at the ticket office lied to me when they sad no single-game tickets would be available. Ok, I'll go see three men's basketball games. I understand my seats are better and I understand that many mid-majors do this when they have big-name opponents on the schedule. I know a ticket to an MSU game is probably more than $45. But did athletics need to LIE to me to get me to buy the flex package?

So here's your complaint. The ticket office has officially pissed off a WBB season ticket holder. I won't be buying men's tickets again.

They didn't lie. They probably thought that was true when they talked to you.

Then they eventually found out that people don't give a crap about going to this game, because the allure of watching MSU wasn't enough to outweigh the fact that our team will probably get destroyed by 60+ points and MSU's starters (the ones people were hoping to see) will not play past halftime.

[Globetrotter]

It's interesting that no one on the board is upset, because they bought the 3 game package "deal" thinking that was the only way to get tickets for the MSU game, only to find that they are now offering tickets for just MSU. I guess no one bought the package!

Good idea..........didn't work! Wonder how long it will be until the price drops.

The 3-game flex pack is the first time I've bought men's basketball tickets, and it will be the last time. All I wanted was a ticket to the Michigan State game. I was told very aggressively by the ticket office that this would be the ONLY way to get a ticket to the Michigan State game and therefore the three-game flex pack was justified.

Then I find out a month later that single-game tickets are now available. I contacted Athletics and I was told "Your seats will be better than the single-game ticket holders." Which admittedly, is true. However, the staff at the ticket office lied to me when they sad no single-game tickets would be available. Ok, I'll go see three men's basketball games. I understand my seats are better and I understand that many mid-majors do this when they have big-name opponents on the schedule. I know a ticket to an MSU game is probably more than $45. But did athletics need to LIE to me to get me to buy the flex package?

So here's your complaint. The ticket office has officially pissed off a WBB season ticket holder. I won't be buying men's tickets again.

They didn't lie. They probably thought that was true when they talked to you.

Then they eventually found out that people don't give a crap about going to this game, because the allure of watching MSU wasn't enough to outweigh the fact that our team will probably get destroyed by 60+ points and MSU's starters (the ones people were hoping to see) will not play past halftime.

I think it will be surprisingly close. This team is 5-4 after all. I don't think we are great but we are oddly competitive at times.

I don't know a thing about Michigan State though.

[BleedOrange]

It's interesting that no one on the board is upset, because they bought the 3 game package "deal" thinking that was the only way to get tickets for the MSU game, only to find that they are now offering tickets for just MSU. I guess no one bought the package!

Good idea..........didn't work! Wonder how long it will be until the price drops.

No, it obviously WASN'T a good idea, now was it? It might sound like a good idea at first blush. However, in principle, FORCING people to pay for THREE things when they only want ONE thing is shitty, imo. It's a form a gouging, it's opportunistic, and poor way to treat customers. With s**t like this, the "crowd gestapo", and body searches, this athletic department has proven to have no business sense whatsoever.

BS! It is a great idea by the athletic department. It's what mid majors all over the country do. When they get a big time home opponent they use that to leverage sales for other games. And by offering the tickets for $45 you're basically getting 3 games for about the same as you would pay if you were buying individual seats to 3 random games. Personally if I didn't have season tickets I'd MUCH rather have a deal like this on the table than paying double price for just the MSU game. I suppose at the end it would have made sense to offer both deals right away, MSU tix cost more, but offer the 3 game deal as well. Still, it is FAR from bad business sense to leverage the MSU game into increasing revenue and hopefully attendance at other games this year as well.

When UT hosted Boise a couple years ago the only way to get seats up until the last minute was buying season tickets. That wasn't bad business sense, it was smart.

Hammb, you're confusing short-term cash generation with good business sense. These are separate concepts and are often at odds. What you are missing is that customers get screwed into spending extra money for something undesired to get something they DO want. I understand that technique might, and I say might, generate extra cash and a little more attendance at other games, but puts off and annoys people that don't want to be forced into that choice. Fan and community relations takes hit - BG can least-afford to neglect this aspect of its sports marketing. So, the business sense sucks, actually. It may generate revenue, but better business sense would be to a) enhance fan experience at the games they actually go to, b) provide a quality product.

Opportunistically fu**ing people out of their cash never makes good business sense if you're trying to develop a solid, permanent following, which we should be trying to do. And in BG's case this particular season, the risk of backfiring is substantial....as we can plainly observe.

I disagree.

The only way this creates any sort of issue is if the fanbase feels entitled, as BG fans seem to be. They feel they're entitled to the cheapest tickets imaginable for all sporting events. They feel entitled to buy those tickets and then sit wherever they feel like. They feel entitled to go to a sporting event and bring in their own food/drink. etc, etc.

Sure the gameday experience could use some improvements but for the most part what people bitch about on here is stuff that is general policy at sporting venues throughout the country.

I firmly believe in supply and demand. The MSU game will be in higher demand, so the price should raise accordingly. Rather than actually raising the prices of those MSU tickets the department offered a 3 game package that allowed them to basically get tickets to 3 games, including the high demand one, at normal price. Now they're also offering the MSU tickets as a single game at an inflated (market value?) price. That makes sense to me. My only beef with the department is that I think they should have offered both options initially, but so be it...we all knew that single game tickets would become available if they didn't sell out with the 3 game packs.

As far as I'm concerned the bitching is just people at BG thinking that the department should always have been run the way it used to be run. Sure, I miss some of the things that we used to get away with too, but that doesn't make it wrong. Lots of venues don't allow you to bring in your own food. Lots of venues perform a security search before going into a game. Lots of venues check your tickets to make sure you're seated where you're supposed to be. And inflating ticket prices for premium events is common practice in sports, both professional AND college.

Hammb, fans' bitching is a separate issue. What's more, it's not the rules themselves, but how they are enforced. Personally, I feel entitled to be treated as well by BGSU as I do by Akron and Kent State when I attend games at the respective schools.

In business, you succeed by establishing relationships, treating your customers well, and delivering consistently. These basics apply to BG's athletic department as well as they do everywhere else. Gimmicks, gouging, and flip-flopping on pricing policies (which results in an appearance of dishonesty), and zealous enforcement of rules does nothing to win loyalty to the program and only alienate potential long term customers/clients. This department seems to be doing everything wrong, including putting a bad product on the floor. People are entitled to pick and choose who they do business with. Personally, I'm not willing to travel across the state to see a bad product, get jacked around on ticket prices, and then have a baton shoved up my ass when I walk in the front door, but that's just me.

Effectively, the department tripled the price of the MSU ticket. Then, after observing disappointing demand, they changed the policy, effectively lying to the small number of people who actually did take the MSU deal. So, the department used bad judgment to begin with and failed to have a reputable back up plan if the MSU combo deal didn't sell as well as expected. So, BG handled their business stupidly on 3 counts here: a) the ethics and PR consequences of an MSU-combo deal, b) dramatically underestimated demand, and c) dicking the original MSU-combo buyers.

Flailing amateurs.

[factman]

Well said and soooooooooo true

[BleedOrange]

And if the fans that actually do attend games seem entitled, maybe it's because the program has been sucking ass for so long that attending a game feels more like a donation or a community service. In reality, if someone goes to a BG basketball game, it's essentially an act of charity.

BG needs to FIRST put a competitive product on the floor. That's supply. After a few years of that, you'll see genuine demand. At that point, you can price accordingly. In this scenario, supply can generate demand and is the ONLY thing that will generate demand. In the meantime, gimmicks and price gouging will not motivate anybody to attend games now or later.

[unfalconbelievable]

IS THIS GAME NOT SOLD OUT YET???????????

Just got ANOTHER email on purchasing tickets for this game. What a fiasco this game has turned into and it hasn't even started.

If this game doesn't sellout and their are actually tickets available for a NATIONAL power in BGs home, shame on all those that marketed/promoted this game.

Should of just left it alone, let it sell out and if they actually play well people might want to come back. Nope, had to jack up the price put a package around it with a couple games against directional MAC schools........Well done marketing department

[guest44]

Not sold out. Won't sell out. Ask the average person in BG, if they even know the game is taking place tomorrow, and I would guess most have no idea. Not just a marketing problem. It's a Louis Orr 6 year disconnect problem.

[Globetrotter]

Not sold out. Won't sell out. Ask the average person in BG, if they even know the game is taking place tomorrow, and I would guess most have no idea. Not just a marketing problem. It's a Louis Orr 6 year disconnect problem.

Thats a pretty big Marketing program. I would have imagined that if Michigan State played anyone it would have been sold out.

[transfer2BGSU]

IS THIS GAME NOT SOLD OUT YET???????????

Just got ANOTHER email on purchasing tickets for this game. What a fiasco this game has turned into and it hasn't even started.

If this game doesn't sellout and their are actually tickets available for a NATIONAL power in BGs home, shame on all those that marketed/promoted this game.

Should of just left it alone, let it sell out and if they actually play well people might want to come back. Nope, had to jack up the price put a package around it with a couple games against directional MAC schools........Well done marketing department

Call (419) 352-1545 at your earliest convenience.

Good luck.

[guest44]

Is that Greg Fundraiser's home telephone number????

[footballguy51]

Is that Greg Fundraiser's home telephone number????

No, that's the number to the Behavioral Connections "The Link" Crisis Hotline. Not sure what joke was being implied here.

[CrazyFan]

IS THIS GAME NOT SOLD OUT YET???????????

Just got ANOTHER email on purchasing tickets for this game. What a fiasco this game has turned into and it hasn't even started.

If this game doesn't sellout and their are actually tickets available for a NATIONAL power in BGs home, shame on all those that marketed/promoted this game.

Should of just left it alone, let it sell out and if they actually play well people might want to come back. Nope, had to jack up the price put a package around it with a couple games against directional MAC schools........Well done marketing department

Call (419) 352-1545 at your earliest convenience.

Good luck.

Transfer.....Why don't you call 1-800-BROWN-NOSE. I mean the phone # for behavioral connections dude??? Relax. Your the one that always says the sun is always gonna rise, or set, or implode......or whatever. Go keep enjoying your crappy basketball team and coach you seem to love and defend.