Coaching Carousel: Any Clawson rumors

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Falcon137 wrote:
transfer2BGSU wrote:
Globetrotter wrote: The recruits a Temple, FIU, BG, Kent, WMU or San Jose State can get by hiring a former National Champion coach would dwarf the ones they currently get. Add in transfers from Auburn. This is one of those perfect scenarios where a small school gets a solid coach at a decent price and jumpstarts there program.
And exactly how did OU finish this year? What big time recruits have they gotten with Solich?
Solich never won a national championship. But, he did jump start OU's program.
I'd love to follow the OU model.

The last 4 years:
4 Bowls
2 1st place finishes in the East
1 2nd place finish in the East
1 3rd place finish in the East
9-5, 8-5, 10-4, 8-4

or

2 Bowls
1 2nd place finish in the East
1 3rd place finish in the East
1 4th place finish in the East
1 5th place finish in the East
7-6, 2-10, 5-7, 8-4

I like Dave Clawson, but Frank Solich has a better long term track record.
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FWIW, Clawson has said before that Solich's Ohio program is the model of consistency in the MAC. When one senior class departs, the team is not wiped out but it simply reloads. They replace one senior with a junior who has some significant playing time. And unlike Tressel and Chizik, Solich doesn't have baggage attached. He wasn't looking for a job after 04 because of NCAA violations, he was out from Nebraska due to overwhelming expectations and an AD wanting to make an impact on the program. He's never been fired after going winless in his conference and he's never had a full out NCAA investigation pointed at his program.
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Globetrotter wrote:
Falcon137 wrote:
transfer2BGSU wrote:
Globetrotter wrote: The recruits a Temple, FIU, BG, Kent, WMU or San Jose State can get by hiring a former National Champion coach would dwarf the ones they currently get. Add in transfers from Auburn. This is one of those perfect scenarios where a small school gets a solid coach at a decent price and jumpstarts there program.
And exactly how did OU finish this year? What big time recruits have they gotten with Solich?
Solich never won a national championship. But, he did jump start OU's program.
I'd love to follow the OU model.

The last 4 years:
4 Bowls
2 1st place finishes in the East
1 2nd place finish in the East
1 3rd place finish in the East
9-5, 8-5, 10-4, 8-4

or

2 Bowls
1 2nd place finish in the East
1 3rd place finish in the East
1 4th place finish in the East
1 5th place finish in the East
7-6, 2-10, 5-7, 8-4

I like Dave Clawson, but Frank Solich has a better long term track record.

Of course Frank Solich has a better long term track record; he's been in his current job twice as long. Over the first four years for each at their respective schools, Clawson is exactly one game worse (overall) than Solich. And he has one more bowl game appearance. So, whatever that means.

2005 Ohio 4 7 3-5 ---
2006 Ohio 9 5 7-1 GMAC Bowl (L)
2007 Ohio 6 6 4-4 ---
2008 Ohio 4 8 3-5 ---
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Kent has a new coach, Kent alum and former Arkansas DC Paul Haynes
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AyZiggy97 wrote:
Globetrotter wrote:
Falcon137 wrote:
transfer2BGSU wrote:
Globetrotter wrote: The recruits a Temple, FIU, BG, Kent, WMU or San Jose State can get by hiring a former National Champion coach would dwarf the ones they currently get. Add in transfers from Auburn. This is one of those perfect scenarios where a small school gets a solid coach at a decent price and jumpstarts there program.
And exactly how did OU finish this year? What big time recruits have they gotten with Solich?
Solich never won a national championship. But, he did jump start OU's program.
I'd love to follow the OU model.

The last 4 years:
4 Bowls
2 1st place finishes in the East
1 2nd place finish in the East
1 3rd place finish in the East
9-5, 8-5, 10-4, 8-4

or

2 Bowls
1 2nd place finish in the East
1 3rd place finish in the East
1 4th place finish in the East
1 5th place finish in the East
7-6, 2-10, 5-7, 8-4

I like Dave Clawson, but Frank Solich has a better long term track record.

Of course Frank Solich has a better long term track record; he's been in his current job twice as long. Over the first four years for each at their respective schools, Clawson is exactly one game worse (overall) than Solich. And he has one more bowl game appearance. So, whatever that means.

2005 Ohio 4 7 3-5 ---
2006 Ohio 9 5 7-1 GMAC Bowl (L)
2007 Ohio 6 6 4-4 ---
2008 Ohio 4 8 3-5 ---
Come on...comparing apples to apples?! Whatever are you thinking?!
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MarkL wrote:FWIW, Clawson has said before that Solich's Ohio program is the model of consistency in the MAC. When one senior class departs, the team is not wiped out but it simply reloads. They replace one senior with a junior who has some significant playing time. And unlike Tressel and Chizik, Solich doesn't have baggage attached. He wasn't looking for a job after 04 because of NCAA violations, he was out from Nebraska due to overwhelming expectations and an AD wanting to make an impact on the program. He's never been fired after going winless in his conference and he's never had a full out NCAA investigation pointed at his program.
Good post Mark.
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see: coachingsearch.com
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BGFan wrote:
AyZiggy97 wrote:
Globetrotter wrote:
Falcon137 wrote:
transfer2BGSU wrote:
Globetrotter wrote: The recruits a Temple, FIU, BG, Kent, WMU or San Jose State can get by hiring a former National Champion coach would dwarf the ones they currently get. Add in transfers from Auburn. This is one of those perfect scenarios where a small school gets a solid coach at a decent price and jumpstarts there program.
And exactly how did OU finish this year? What big time recruits have they gotten with Solich?
Solich never won a national championship. But, he did jump start OU's program.
I'd love to follow the OU model.

The last 4 years:
4 Bowls
2 1st place finishes in the East
1 2nd place finish in the East
1 3rd place finish in the East
9-5, 8-5, 10-4, 8-4

or

2 Bowls
1 2nd place finish in the East
1 3rd place finish in the East
1 4th place finish in the East
1 5th place finish in the East
7-6, 2-10, 5-7, 8-4

I like Dave Clawson, but Frank Solich has a better long term track record.

Of course Frank Solich has a better long term track record; he's been in his current job twice as long. Over the first four years for each at their respective schools, Clawson is exactly one game worse (overall) than Solich. And he has one more bowl game appearance. So, whatever that means.

2005 Ohio 4 7 3-5 ---
2006 Ohio 9 5 7-1 GMAC Bowl (L)
2007 Ohio 6 6 4-4 ---
2008 Ohio 4 8 3-5 ---
While I think it's a good point. How many bowl bids did the MAC have during those 4 years as compared to the last 4?
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Doesn't really matter how many bowl bids there were as Solich was only truly eligible for one of those four years. I don't recall a 6-6 MAC team bowling before this season. We could have had 12 tie ins in 2005 and 2008 and he would have stayed home.
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The only one I can think of is Northern Illinois in 2008.
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That's right...come to think of it, there were rumors we might have gone bowling had Brandon not been sacked after the UT game.
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Globetrotter wrote:
BGFan wrote:
AyZiggy97 wrote:
Globetrotter wrote:
Falcon137 wrote:
transfer2BGSU wrote:
Globetrotter wrote: The recruits a Temple, FIU, BG, Kent, WMU or San Jose State can get by hiring a former National Champion coach would dwarf the ones they currently get. Add in transfers from Auburn. This is one of those perfect scenarios where a small school gets a solid coach at a decent price and jumpstarts there program.
And exactly how did OU finish this year? What big time recruits have they gotten with Solich?
Solich never won a national championship. But, he did jump start OU's program.
I'd love to follow the OU model.

The last 4 years:
4 Bowls
2 1st place finishes in the East
1 2nd place finish in the East
1 3rd place finish in the East
9-5, 8-5, 10-4, 8-4

or

2 Bowls
1 2nd place finish in the East
1 3rd place finish in the East
1 4th place finish in the East
1 5th place finish in the East
7-6, 2-10, 5-7, 8-4

I like Dave Clawson, but Frank Solich has a better long term track record.

Of course Frank Solich has a better long term track record; he's been in his current job twice as long. Over the first four years for each at their respective schools, Clawson is exactly one game worse (overall) than Solich. And he has one more bowl game appearance. So, whatever that means.

2005 Ohio 4 7 3-5 ---
2006 Ohio 9 5 7-1 GMAC Bowl (L)
2007 Ohio 6 6 4-4 ---
2008 Ohio 4 8 3-5 ---
While I think it's a good point. How many bowl bids did the MAC have during those 4 years as compared to the last 4?
The MAC had two bowl tie-ins in 2005, and has had 3 ever since 2006
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Only 2 jobs left open, FIU and Utah State.

Looks like we get Clawson for another year unless a College coach goes pro. I would start thinking about his successor.

Arkansas John L Smith Brett Bielema-Wisconsin HC
Arkansas St Gus Malzahn Bryan Harsin-Texac OC
Auburn Gene Chizik Gus Malzahn-Arkansas St HC
BC Frank Spaziani Steve Addazio-Temple HC
California Jeff Tedford Sonny Dykes-La Tech HC
Cincy Butch Jones Tommy Tuberville-Texas Tech HC
Colorado Jon Embree Mike McIntyre-San Jose St HC
FIU Mario Cristobal
Georgia St Bill Curry Trent Miles-Indiana St HC
Idaho Robb Akey Paul Petrino-Arkansas OC
Kent St Darrell Hazel Paul Haynes-Kent St DC
Kentucky Joker Phillips Mark Stoops-FSU DC
La Tech Sonny Dykes Skip Holtz-fired S Florida HC
NC State Tom O'Brien Dave Doeren-N Illinois HC
N Illinois Dave Doeren Rod Carey-N Illinois OC
Purdue Danny Hope Darrell Hazell-Kent HC
San Jose St Mike McIntyre Ron Caragher-San Diego HC
S Miss Ellis Johnson Todd Monken-Oke St OC
Temple Steve Addazio Matt Rhule-NYG Asst
Tennesee Derek Dooley Butch Jones-Cincy HC
Texas Tech Tommy Tuberville Kliff Kingsbury-Texas Tech OC
USF Skip Holtz Willie Taggert-WKU HC
Utah St Gary Anderson
UTEP Mike Price Sean Kugler-Asst Steelers
W Kentucky Willie Taggert Bobby Petrino Ex HC Arkansas
W Michigan Bill Cubit PJ Fleck-Bucs Asst
Wisconsin Brett Bielema Gary Anderson-Ute St HC
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Is it just me, or does looking for Clawson's successor feel a little ...

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MarkL wrote:Is it just me, or does looking for Clawson's successor feel a little ...

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Best to be prepared. If he was interviewing this year and is expected to have a good year next year he is likely gone. I would have a short list of names ready to go should that be the case.
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