BG with just 2 points near halfway part of first half at KSU

[guest44]

BG hits 0 three pointers tonight. Clearly, the most pressing need on this team is another 6'10'' stiff to sit out and not a shooter.

[BGSUFanatic7]

Spencer Parker. 16 Minutes. 0-2 with 2 air balls. 1 rebound.

Craig Sealey. 5 Minutes. 3-3. 3 rebounds.

[BGfalcon2010]

Crawford 12 points on 17 shots lol how does he get that many, on a bad team the most talented by far (Calhoun) should get as many shots as he wants, kept us in the game vs OU by himself, yet crawford is chucking up 17 shots...gimme a break...I will be going to senior night for one man only Mr. Calhoun

[BGSU33]

BG hits 0 three pointers tonight. Clearly, the most pressing need on this team is another 6'10'' stiff to sit out and not a shooter.

BG was outscored 27-0 from behind the arc tonight. Also, yet another team passes us in the standings in Ball State. It looks like we're likely going to be the #8 seed (which is essentially the #9 seed since Toledo is ineligible). Could be seeing another BG vs CMU first round MAC Tournament matchup again.

[HoopsFan]

Yeah. Crawford is just tearing up the MAC in stats. Why look, that fella DJ Cooper's stats are way better, and in fact just about anybody's is. Crawford now has 109 turnovers on the season and a magnificent 1.2 assist to turnover ratio (vs 2+ for 4 or 5 other point guards).

Here's a stat check from games before tonight.

SCORING Cl GP FG 3FG FT Points Avg/G
6. CALHOUN, A'uston-BGSU SR 29 167 21 91 446 15.4
7. CRAWFORD, Jordon-BGSU SR 29 162 49 58 431 14.9
8. HOLT, Randal-KSU SR 29 134 76 75 419 14.4
9. COOPER, D.J.-OHIO SR 29 125 61 88 399 13.8

ASSISTS Cl GP No. Avg/G
1. COOPER, D.J.-OHIO SR 29 215 7.4
2. ABREU, Alex-AKRON JR 28 166 5.9
3. BROWN, Julius-UT SO 26 150 5.8
4. FOWLER, Chris-CMU FR 28 151 5.4
5. CRAWFORD, Jordon-BGSU SR 29 123 4.2

STEALS Cl GP No. Avg/G
1. COOPER, D.J.-OHIO SR 29 61 2.1
5. PEARSON, Rian-UT JR 26 45 1.7
6. CRAWFORD, Jordon-BGSU SR 29 46 1.6

3-POINT FG MADE Cl GP 3FG Avg/G
7. COOPER, D.J.-OHIO SR 29 61 2.1
10. CRAWFORD, Jordon-BGSU SR 29 49 1.7


ASSIST/TURNOVER RATIO Cl GP Assists Avg T-Overs Avg Ratio
1. WATSON, Tony-UB SR 26 83 3.2 38 1.5 2.2
2. COOPER, D.J.-OHIO SR 29 215 7.4 102 3.5 2.1
3. ABREU, Alex-AKRON JR 28 166 5.9 79 2.8 2.1
4. FOWLER, Chris-CMU FR 28 151 5.4 74 2.6 2.0
5. BROWN, Julius-UT SO 26 150 5.8 82 3.2 1.8
9. CRAWFORD, Jordon-BGSU SR 29 123 4.2 104 3.6 1.2

[BleedOrange]

Went to the game. Just like against Akron, down the stretch Orr pulls his athletes off the floor just as we threaten to go for a win. Orr rolled in Black, Kraus, COrr back in to nail this game into the coffin.

I noticed in the first half that Holmes was absolutely furious after being replaced by Black. He left coach Orr hanging on a low five, suggesting that he's pissed at Orr over playing time. Holmes was visibly annoyed at other points in the game when not playing. When he does play, he dominates. He SHOULD be pissed over playing time, and if Orr returns as coach next year, Holmes SHOULD transfer.

Globe, the only reason Black is a decent position defender is that a) he has decent body weight, 2) he doesn't need to be athletic to do this. Holmes' presence underneath gives us opportunities at the ball that we can't even imagine with Black. Whatever Holmes gives up in position defense he gives back 10x with his overall skills. Holmes should be on the floor 35mpg with Black spelling him occasionally.

COrr is major a defensive liability. As a 6-3 small forward, he doesn't jump, isn't long, and isn't quick. Kent took advantage of mismatches against him. He's a sitting duck. I'll admit the COrr does have a very high basketball IQ. VERY INTELLIGENT PLAYER. He does NOT have D1 athleticism.

I'm always amazed by Clarke's court vision and spontaneity when on the floor. So much better than Crawford. Also, the ball distribution is much better as well. With Crawford's shitty decision making and shot selection, he's like a black hole for the team at point guard. And, his speed and quickness is average for MAC guards. His lateral mobility can be impressive, but Clarke gets from point A to point B much, MUCH faster than Crawford in half court sets.

Concerning Parker...that kid has game. Give him grace on the stat line. He's a very good athlete with an all-around game.

I continue to be completely baffled by Sealey's lack of playing time.

[BGSU33]

I continue to be completely baffled by Sealey's lack of playing time.

A few weeks ago in a post game press conference Orr openly admitted Sealey deserved more playing time and Orr even went on to say something to the effect of how it was his fault for not playing him more and that he deserve to. Yet, he continues to see little time, while a guy like Kraus continues to start and log more minutes despite being awful.

[h2oville rocket]

Is this the same ESPN that had Alexis Rogers from Duke playing for BG? It took them at least a year to correct that.

Well, Yahoo has all your home games being played in Wichita, which might not be a half bad idea. No one would feel compelled to attend.

[Globetrotter]

Yeah. Crawford is just tearing up the MAC in stats. Why look, that fella DJ Cooper's stats are way better, and in fact just about anybody's is. Crawford now has 109 turnovers on the season and a magnificent 1.2 assist to turnover ratio (vs 2+ for 4 or 5 other point guards).

Here's a stat check from games before tonight.

SCORING Cl GP FG 3FG FT Points Avg/G
6. CALHOUN, A'uston-BGSU SR 29 167 21 91 446 15.4
7. CRAWFORD, Jordon-BGSU SR 29 162 49 58 431 14.9
8. HOLT, Randal-KSU SR 29 134 76 75 419 14.4
9. COOPER, D.J.-OHIO SR 29 125 61 88 399 13.8

ASSISTS Cl GP No. Avg/G
1. COOPER, D.J.-OHIO SR 29 215 7.4
2. ABREU, Alex-AKRON JR 28 166 5.9
3. BROWN, Julius-UT SO 26 150 5.8
4. FOWLER, Chris-CMU FR 28 151 5.4
5. CRAWFORD, Jordon-BGSU SR 29 123 4.2

STEALS Cl GP No. Avg/G
1. COOPER, D.J.-OHIO SR 29 61 2.1
5. PEARSON, Rian-UT JR 26 45 1.7
6. CRAWFORD, Jordon-BGSU SR 29 46 1.6

3-POINT FG MADE Cl GP 3FG Avg/G
7. COOPER, D.J.-OHIO SR 29 61 2.1
10. CRAWFORD, Jordon-BGSU SR 29 49 1.7


ASSIST/TURNOVER RATIO Cl GP Assists Avg T-Overs Avg Ratio
1. WATSON, Tony-UB SR 26 83 3.2 38 1.5 2.2
2. COOPER, D.J.-OHIO SR 29 215 7.4 102 3.5 2.1
3. ABREU, Alex-AKRON JR 28 166 5.9 79 2.8 2.1
4. FOWLER, Chris-CMU FR 28 151 5.4 74 2.6 2.0
5. BROWN, Julius-UT SO 26 150 5.8 82 3.2 1.8
9. CRAWFORD, Jordon-BGSU SR 29 123 4.2 104 3.6 1.2

Was this meant to show he had bad stats?

[Globetrotter]

Went to the game. Just like against Akron, down the stretch Orr pulls his athletes off the floor just as we threaten to go for a win. Orr rolled in Black, Kraus, COrr back in to nail this game into the coffin.

I noticed in the first half that Holmes was absolutely furious after being replaced by Black. He left coach Orr hanging on a low five, suggesting that he's pissed at Orr over playing time. Holmes was visibly annoyed at other points in the game when not playing. When he does play, he dominates. He SHOULD be pissed over playing time, and if Orr returns as coach next year, Holmes SHOULD transfer.

Globe, the only reason Black is a decent position defender is that a) he has decent body weight, 2) he doesn't need to be athletic to do this. Holmes' presence underneath gives us opportunities at the ball that we can't even imagine with Black. Whatever Holmes gives up in position defense he gives back 10x with his overall skills. Holmes should be on the floor 35mpg with Black spelling him occasionally.

COrr is major a defensive liability. As a 6-3 small forward, he doesn't jump, isn't long, and isn't quick. Kent took advantage of mismatches against him. He's a sitting duck. I'll admit the COrr does have a very high basketball IQ. VERY INTELLIGENT PLAYER. He does NOT have D1 athleticism.

I'm always amazed by Clarke's court vision and spontaneity when on the floor. So much better than Crawford. Also, the ball distribution is much better as well. With Crawford's shitty decision making and shot selection, he's like a black hole for the team at point guard. And, his speed and quickness is average for MAC guards. His lateral mobility can be impressive, but Clarke gets from point A to point B much, MUCH faster than Crawford in half court sets.

Concerning Parker...that kid has game. Give him grace on the stat line. He's a very good athlete with an all-around game.

I continue to be completely baffled by Sealey's lack of playing time.

Your take on Clarke vs Crawford is in my opinion completely wrong. Clarke gets from point A to point B faster. no way.
Also, Parker is just a body at this point.
And in conclusion, I do want Holmes on the court way more often then Black, I actually want them playing together. Its not an either or situation. Or with another coach it wouldn't be.

[guest44]

Holmes goes for 11/ 6 in 20 minutes. Black for 1/4 in 20 minutes. I mean how stubborn can you be with a team who is 12-18 to make no change and continue to play Black as much or more that Holmes. Add to that any coach who finds a way to get James Erger 10mpg and Kraus 25mpg, and you clearly have a moron of a coach.

[Warthog]

Here's my favorite stat for last night's game. After Sealy's dunk to give BG the lead 58-57 with 7:29 to play, BG scored just 3 points the rest of the game. The Falcons shot 1 for 13 with Crawford missing 8 shots.

[guest44]

Wow. 3 points in 7:29. So so sad. Atleast we got Kraus back in to provide some offense late.

[BleedOrange]

Here's my favorite stat for last night's game. After Sealy's dunk to give BG the lead 58-57 with 7:29 to play, BG scored just 3 points the rest of the game. The Falcons shot 1 for 13 with Crawford missing 8 shots.

Yes, not too long after that, Orr replaces his athletes with Kraus, Black, and COrr. THOSE are the guys he wanted on the floor to finish the game.

And, yes, ...Crawford wanted to be the hero more than he wanted his team to win the game.

[hammb]

Went to the game. Just like against Akron, down the stretch Orr pulls his athletes off the floor just as we threaten to go for a win. Orr rolled in Black, Kraus, COrr back in to nail this game into the coffin.

I noticed in the first half that Holmes was absolutely furious after being replaced by Black. He left coach Orr hanging on a low five, suggesting that he's pissed at Orr over playing time. Holmes was visibly annoyed at other points in the game when not playing. When he does play, he dominates. He SHOULD be pissed over playing time, and if Orr returns as coach next year, Holmes SHOULD transfer.

Globe, the only reason Black is a decent position defender is that a) he has decent body weight, 2) he doesn't need to be athletic to do this. Holmes' presence underneath gives us opportunities at the ball that we can't even imagine with Black. Whatever Holmes gives up in position defense he gives back 10x with his overall skills. Holmes should be on the floor 35mpg with Black spelling him occasionally.

COrr is major a defensive liability. As a 6-3 small forward, he doesn't jump, isn't long, and isn't quick. Kent took advantage of mismatches against him. He's a sitting duck. I'll admit the COrr does have a very high basketball IQ. VERY INTELLIGENT PLAYER. He does NOT have D1 athleticism.

I'm always amazed by Clarke's court vision and spontaneity when on the floor. So much better than Crawford. Also, the ball distribution is much better as well. With Crawford's shitty decision making and shot selection, he's like a black hole for the team at point guard. And, his speed and quickness is average for MAC guards. His lateral mobility can be impressive, but Clarke gets from point A to point B much, MUCH faster than Crawford in half court sets.

Concerning Parker...that kid has game. Give him grace on the stat line. He's a very good athlete with an all-around game.

I continue to be completely baffled by Sealey's lack of playing time.

Your take on Clarke vs Crawford is in my opinion completely wrong. Clarke gets from point A to point B faster. no way.
Also, Parker is just a body at this point.
And in conclusion, I do want Holmes on the court way more often then Black, I actually want them playing together. Its not an either or situation. Or with another coach it wouldn't be.

Clarke may not be quicker than Crawford, but he is definitely really quick. If only his ball handling could keep up with the rest of his body. Still, I think I saw him break down a defense in a half court set for an easy layup more in the OU game than I have the other guards on this team all year combined. Crawford is quick, but it really has no value because he has no jump shot and can't pass worth damn. He's either a black hole with the ball or a turnover machine. Of course Clarke is a turnover machine as well...that seems pretty consistent with Coach Orr's teams...his guards have been beyond awful since he was hired.

Coach Orr is beyond awful. I hope to god we're not stuck watching him "lead" next year's squad. And to think...people have been giving me funny looks all year when I boo him in introductions every game.