One thing is for certain....

[Globetrotter]

And my point was that a student could choose to come here not just because of basketball, but for the education and the basketball....I was offering that "Whats in it for them" is the possibility of a good education... but I was just looking beyond the sports.

The point being that there is more to coming to college outside of... (shocker) athletics.

They are studying comm and exploration. BG isn't high in either.

[bgsufalcon24]

No...he is NOT. I know the person who is because when I was a mod I could run a check on what people posted under what ISP address. Bobcat and another user had the same ISP address...that user was not RUIT. RUIT knows who this person is...Grant knows...I know....not sure who else knows.

Well there's one person who knows because he's that person...

Oh Flipper, you and all you're knowledge of all this topic secret stuff on here. You just can't get enough of that one, can you. For anyone who cares to know, it was my cousin. He was living with my wife and I about several years ago after he graduated from OU while interning in Cleveland. I hashed it out with him, and Grant, and he was done with it. Funny enough, someone on here was sad to see him go and started posting with the username 0hiobobcat with the first character being a zero and not an O. No idea who that was, but maybe the great detective Flipper knows who that was too. Sorry to burst your several-year top secret bubble on that one. Proceed.

WTF is your problem? 24 brought it up and tagged the wrong person so I corrected him. I could have outed you years ago if I wanted to be a dick about it and didn't because you quit posting....yes you quit posting....as bobcat (That "someone else was on my computer" dodge was played 10 years ago.) Besides..aren't you more comfortable posting as an OU fan out in the open?

At least my alter-ego... Bob the Builder... was funny

Didn't mean to provoke an incident here...sorry. I guess I got my answer though.

I do hope Bob the Builder makes a return appearance when the Doyt gets rebuilt/renovated/whatever. That was some good azz tomfoolery.

[BGFalconfromCincy]

Lets stop pretending, we all know why the thread about wanting the three transferring is up, people are afraid those three talented players will win just enough to save Coach Orr's job and get him a new contract.

One things needs to be remembered around these parts, players and parents don't think the way we the fans do. You guys really think Clarke, Holmes, and Sealy are walking around campus thinking their talents are going to be wasted next year. No, those three are thinking they are going to turn things around next year.

Players and parents aren't thinking what we thinking, and aren't thinking whats being said around these parts. If they were there would be mass transfers, and there haven't been, and I doubt there will be.

[BGDrew]

As someone who's been a decently long tenured poster here (stats say I've had the 11th most posts) it has truly made me sad to see what was once such a great site fall into a cesspool where it's acceptable to insult the student-athletes we support, question a man's religion, and find it perfectly acceptable to make personal insults to an anonymous person you've never met.

I'm not a saint. I've regretted some things I've posted and said here but I can say that I've never had the absolute hatred that I've seen typed out here. Maybe it's just a sign of the world that we live in where anonymity gives the impression of words without consequences. But, we've lost a lot of the respect and camaraderie that became a staple of this site. We'd laugh at other fan sites where this sort of thing was commonplace.

I'm not going to speak for the original founder of this site but as one of the "old-timers" coming here now makes me sad. I've met some great people on this site like Todd (toddpav), Marta and Rick, among others. I know that those people really don't visit the site anymore and these threads are a perfect reason why. I had planned on deleting my account here and soon I might. But I do believe the site can get back where it was. But, it only does that if people start being human here again.

We're all Falcons. Start acting like one.

[Globetrotter]

Lets stop pretending, we all know why the thread about wanting the three transferring is up, people are afraid those three talented players will win just enough to save Coach Orr's job and get him a new contract.

One things needs to be remembered around these parts, players and parents don't think the way we the fans do. You guys really think Clarke, Holmes, and Sealy are walking around campus thinking their talents are going to be wasted next year. No, those three are thinking they are going to turn things around next year.

Players and parents aren't thinking what we thinking, and aren't thinking whats being said around these parts. If they were there would be mass transfers, and there haven't been, and I doubt there will be.

I genuinely care about those 3 kids. I find it interesting that you can't comprehend that.

Parents and kids are wrong. They all think they are going to the NBA. I'm not sure Sealey should transfer but Clarke and Holmes certainly should.

[Globetrotter]

As someone who's been a decently long tenured poster here (stats say I've had the 11th most posts) it has truly made me sad to see what was once such a great site fall into a cesspool where it's acceptable to insult the student-athletes we support, question a man's religion, and find it perfectly acceptable to make personal insults to an anonymous person you've never met.

I'm not a saint. I've regretted some things I've posted and said here but I can say that I've never had the absolute hatred that I've seen typed out here. Maybe it's just a sign of the world that we live in where anonymity gives the impression of words without consequences. But, we've lost a lot of the respect and camaraderie that became a staple of this site. We'd laugh at other fan sites where this sort of thing was commonplace.

I'm not going to speak for the original founder of this site but as one of the "old-timers" coming here now makes me sad. I've met some great people on this site like Todd (toddpav), Marta and Rick, among others. I know that those people really don't visit the site anymore and these threads are a perfect reason why. I had planned on deleting my account here and soon I might. But I do believe the site can get back where it was. But, it only does that if people start being human here again.

We're all Falcons. Start acting like one.

If you can't handle differing opinion then I suggest you don't go to a discussion board. As far as I have seen no one has made from of his religion. Just his absolute silliness of throwing out his religion every time someone puts a mic in his face. Let me ask you this. Would it be ok if he was a Muslim? Wicca? Hindu? Devil worshipper?

To Shiva be the Glory!

[BGDrew]

Having differing opinions is fine. Being an outright prick and saying something you'd never say to someone's face is just being a troll.

Regarding religion: I could not care if he invited everyone personally to a bible burning. Yes, he wears his religion on his sleeve but he shouldn't be vilified for it.

[BGFalconfromCincy]

As someone who's been a decently long tenured poster here (stats say I've had the 11th most posts) it has truly made me sad to see what was once such a great site fall into a cesspool where it's acceptable to insult the student-athletes we support, question a man's religion, and find it perfectly acceptable to make personal insults to an anonymous person you've never met.

I'm not a saint. I've regretted some things I've posted and said here but I can say that I've never had the absolute hatred that I've seen typed out here. Maybe it's just a sign of the world that we live in where anonymity gives the impression of words without consequences. But, we've lost a lot of the respect and camaraderie that became a staple of this site. We'd laugh at other fan sites where this sort of thing was commonplace.

I'm not going to speak for the original founder of this site but as one of the "old-timers" coming here now makes me sad. I've met some great people on this site like Todd (toddpav), Marta and Rick, among others. I know that those people really don't visit the site anymore and these threads are a perfect reason why. I had planned on deleting my account here and soon I might. But I do believe the site can get back where it was. But, it only does that if people start being human here again.

We're all Falcons. Start acting like one.

If you can't handle differing opinion

Where did BGDrew say anything about not being able to have differing opinion. If we had differing opinions this place would be boring, and this place is far from boring. I think his point was just because we have differing opinions on issues doesn't mean we have to come off as asses to each other just because its anonymous. There will never be 100% agreement on anything around here, we all know that, but just because someone disagrees with you doesn't you have to start a response with an insult.

[toddpav]

Where did BGDrew say anything about not being able to have differing opinion. If we had differing opinions this place would be boring, and this place is far from boring. I think his point was just because we have differing opinions on issues doesn't mean we have to come off as asses to each other just because its anonymous. There will never be 100% agreement on anything around here, we all know that, but just because someone disagrees with you doesn't you have to start a response with an insult.

Nailed it.

[HoopsFan]

@Toddpav I see you're a Pornographer! Why are you allowed to hang out on AZZ? Geeze, you must be one sick individual. Why we should be stringing you up, or at least call the law.

Oops, wait a minute

Ay-Ziggy-Zoomba Photographer

Oh. Nevermind

[hammb]

The one thing that made this site interesting was that there WAS no anonymity back in the day we all knew everybody. It was a tight knit group. We met at the spring game every year. We tailgated together every football game. We hung out at basketball games. This wasn't some anonymous message board where we bickered constantly...it was a place where we discussed BG sports with people we would all genuinely call "friends."

It's unfortunate to me that many of those old faces are no longer around. Rick & Marta still post occasionally, but probably not as much as they used to. I don't see Tech around as often. Shaden Freude is rarely seen, which is a shame considering he had the greatest username in message board history. Grant has pretty much moved on. Jacobs4Heisman has been gone for awhile. The most depressing part of the thread no our NCAA tourney drought was seeing a Bleeding Orange post and realizing I haven't seen him in YEARS.

It does make me a bit sad that so much of the "old guard" has either moved on or grown disgusted of the site and stopped posting. I apologize profusely if any of my comments over the years were part of the reason for it. Unfortunately, this site has evolved from a tight knit group of friends to just another faceless sports message board. I don't know that it's any worse than any other sports message board, but it pretty much is just another sports message board now. As somebody who frequents sports message boards, I guess I've been less inclined to move on than some of the rest of the old guard...I don't mind the message board banter. But there is no denying that this place is vastly different than it was back then.

[Warthog]

It does make me a bit sad that so much of the "old guard" has either moved on or grown disgusted of the site and stopped posting.

I for one have not grown disgusted of this site. I have, however, grown disgusted with the product that we throw out and call a basketball team. We could solve all the bitching and complaining on here by putting out a quality product that we didn't have so much to be frustrated with. It's not that the site is cantankerous. The basketball team has made posters cantankerous.

[hammb]

It does make me a bit sad that so much of the "old guard" has either moved on or grown disgusted of the site and stopped posting.

I for one have not grown disgusted of this site. I have, however, grown disgusted with the product that we throw out and call a basketball team. We could solve all the bitching and complaining on here by putting out a quality product that we didn't have so much to be frustrated with. It's not that the site is cantankerous. The basketball team has made posters cantankerous.

I assure you, as somebody who has continued to buy season tickets and attend a good 90+% of home games, I have grown as disgusted by our basketball program as anyone. It really hits me because I've also grown disgusted of college football in general, so even though BG is pretty good now I just don't find myself caring about it so much anymore.

I agree the site isn't really any different than other sports message boards. I do think it's different from what it used to be, though. I don't necessarily think that is a good or a bad thing, but it is definitely different.

[Globetrotter]

Not disgusted with the site either. More disgusted with holier than thou attitudes of some of the people on it. Not really sure what people are so upset about. The athletic department made one of the silliest decisions I have seen in sports. I would hope that fans would have a negative reaction.

The one thing that I don't really like is how its become ok to bash Kraus and Erger as non D1 athletes. At first that felt gross but its so regular for me (and so spot on IMO) that it wore me down. I can see arguments about that one. There isn't anything else on this board that I think is really that bad.

[Flipper]

I think the tone here is angrier than it used to be...and I don't think it's attributable just to struggles of the basketball team. We had a lot of angst during the footbal season in that forum while we were winning and playing a really fun brand of football.

I think people are just mad in general...the economy has been sluggish, the political climate has been taken over by hacks on both ends who keep stirring the pot because that's how they get paid...hell the hottest trend in entertainment is the zombie...think about that, flesh eating undead creatures roaming the landscape looking to feed on the living are the new cultural icon.

It's kinda f**ked up....