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It's the Journey... wrote:Have you ever thought maybe the University is also using a search firm to narrow down the candidate pool before our on campus committee takes over? The search firm could be asking those experience type questions. Once the candidate pool gets past that point it is a matter of "do they fit at BG". I think you are looking at the committee as the ones who will be asking all the questions. While that will happen I also look at the committee as the perfect mix of people who will be questioned. Stoll will be able to answer the financial questions from a candidate and Carr will answer any of the overall student life questions. you have representation of both large and small sports. This is as much about getting information about the University from the committee as it is about getting information about how the department will be run from the candidate. No two processes are alike, let's just let it run its course and then evaluate its success.
Have you ready my posts...that's what I've been clamoring for! If they're using a search firm they haven't announced it. Let Stoll and Carr answer questions. Let people who actually know about college athletics do the rest.
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I don't have a lot of time to post but let me be clear, Jill Carr is probably the most trustworthy person on that committee that will look at it with know bias... She has been at BGSU longer then any member of that committee and has raised her children in the town... Also Jill and the AD need to have the same mindset considering she is the person booting student athletes out of school or handing down university suspensions...Her roll is intricle and please know the ins and outs of BGSU before calling people not suited for the committee... If you think that Sidney Rib didn't call a committee together after the company made a rec your crazy and I am sure that committee conssted some of the same people sitting on this one.
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Also Clawson should probably not be on this committee ... I am sure that coaches have been at BGSU much longer and deserved to sit... I also think its funny you picked women out to say they know nothing about college athletics... Do you know that they weren't student athletes at all...Listen BGSU makes no money off athletics it is more important that the person knows how student athlete fit into the makeup of the Univ
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Um, where do I even start?

While I don't wish to rehash previous points made, let's reexamine the distinction between "qualified" and "deserving". Being at the university for 30 years and raising kids in the town means you know the university as a whole and may render you "deserving" of a wide variety of duties. It does not make you an expert on college sports or qualified to discern the qualities of a sports executive.

If the mentality is just to find a person who's pleasant, smiles at people when shopping at Kroger and won't challenge the status quo then we're cooked. If the mentality is "we don't make money on sports so who really cares" then our proper place is Division III. I trust (and hope) this is the minority sentiment among our fan base.

We need a leader who recognizes what successful sports programs can do for the university and the ambition to take us there. Like factman said, I'd prefer someone doing this because they love BGSU and not exclusively to advance their own career path, but at this point I'd take either.
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Actually I think she is perfectly quailed because the student life budget she deals with is probably the second highest on campus and she also deal with the student athlete and the AD every day so I would say qualified and deserving...Also if you think BGSU will ever make money in sports your insane look at profits over the last 50 year never has happened not going to happen check other MAC school... The fit IS all that is important someone who understand the successes and limitation of the sports program.... You my friend are going at this the wrong way.. Common as most Ohioans grew up as buckeyes fans but its not Ohio State nor do any if us want it to be
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I want someone who can relate to Bowling Green, but can overcome some of those limitations!
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Trust me, the LAST thing I want is to become Ohio State and what would come with it. I just want winning programs and competence, both of which have been in short supply all too often.

I don't mean to single out anybody, but I'm sensitive to those who don't understand the role of athletics after that vituperative band of vipers known as the BGSU Faculty Association declared war on the athletic department in their rambling, semi-coherent manifesto of grievances back in January. They have their sights set on any and all parts of the university that aren't enriching their bloated salaries, a greed lust that make the executives at Enron look like salvation army bell-ringers.

If we're not careful and pick the wrong person, these voices and their influence at the university will expand. They already bullied Mazey into keeping an unsuccessful basketball coach on the payroll and, like most bullies, are only emboldened by capitulation.
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mscarn wrote:If we're not careful and pick the wrong person, these voices and their influence at the university will expand. They already bullied Mazey into keeping an unsuccessful basketball coach on the payroll and, like most bullies, are only emboldened by capitulation.
I hear what you're saying, I really do, but based off what I've seen, I think the biggest factor in Orr being around for another year was the AD changeup. I have a tendency to think if GC knew for sure he was going to be the AD in the next academic year and would be hiring his new coach, he would have hired his new coach. Obviously I'm an outsider living several states away from BG but that's the sense I have.
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mscarn wrote:Trust me, the LAST thing I want is to become Ohio State and what would come with it. I just want winning programs and competence, both of which have been in short supply all too often.

I don't mean to single out anybody, but I'm sensitive to those who don't understand the role of athletics after that vituperative band of vipers known as the BGSU Faculty Association declared war on the athletic department in their rambling, semi-coherent manifesto of grievances back in January. They have their sights set on any and all parts of the university that aren't enriching their bloated salaries, a greed lust that make the executives at Enron look like salvation army bell-ringers.

If we're not careful and pick the wrong person, these voices and their influence at the university will expand. They already bullied Mazey into keeping an unsuccessful basketball coach on the payroll and, like most bullies, are only emboldened by capitulation.
There really isn't much to say after that. I guess we live in different realities.
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mscarn wrote: I don't mean to single out anybody, but I'm sensitive to those who don't understand the role of athletics after that vituperative band of vipers known as the BGSU Faculty Association declared war on the athletic department in their rambling, semi-coherent manifesto of grievances back in January. They have their sights set on any and all parts of the university that aren't enriching their bloated salaries, a greed lust that make the executives at Enron look like salvation army bell-ringers.
The purpose of the university is education. And quite frankly, that's where the majority of money should be going. The majority of faculty at BGSU don't make all that much. In fact, I make almost as much as some with the title "assistant professor" - people who have one or two higher degrees than I do. And I work in a private rural school. The faculty deserve to be paid higher.

I realize this is from 2010, but it won't have changed all that much.
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Does anyone have any word on any interested candidates? Or how the process is going so far? I think it's really important that this hire is done right. First priority is get the right individual. Second priority is do it quickly.
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MarkL wrote:Does anyone have any word on any interested candidates? Or how the process is going so far? I think it's really important that this hire is done right. First priority is get the right individual. Second priority is do it quickly.
You're not going to hear anything until the search firm is ready to present its pool of candidates to the search committee. So your going to hear this babble for another 6-8 weeks before anything of substance is known.
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transfer2BGSU wrote: the search firm
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I don't remember bullying President Mazey into keeping an unsuccessful basketball coach and I'm the president of the BGSU-FA. Did I miss a meeting?
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professorjackson makes an excellent point...for a "union man" :) We don't why Louis Orr is still here. John Wagner suggested it might be $$$ and the optics involved in spending the money during negotiations, but we don't know that. The fact of the matter is...keeping Orr is in line with what we have done in the past (most recently with Dakich). Buying out Brandon was an aberration...
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