P*ss*ng off the fans we really need!

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Globetrotter wrote:To be completely honest, unless bg was undefeated, had a star you have to see player or ranked and playing in a huge game I am not coming up to go to the game.

It comes down to two things. It has to either be an event I don't want to miss in person or a community I feel so invested in that I want to be with those people. Some of you have those connections.

For me I would probably go to literally any other stadium in the country because it would be new. Why go to watch a boring product at a stadium I know well.

Pretty soon there will be six megaconferences who only play eachother and we will be a step up from Findlay.
Seems to me that YOU were the guy comlaining about BG athletics and football in particular, and admitted you hadn't been to a game in ...what...13 years? You've got no bitch coming IMO.
None of us were happy with the end results on Sat. but it still proved to be an entertaining and exciting game, right up to the last dropped pass and incompletion. And NO, I'm not "content" with mediocrity...just wonder how many of you guys ever actually played any sport, especially at the college leverl, much less D-1 level.
(That was my son's take on the game after listening to some nearby folks complaining about EVERY missed tackle, dropped pass, refs call etc....of course, he only played 4 yrs. of lacrosse at OSU , two as a team capt., so what would he know?) ](*,)
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Class of 61 wrote:
Globetrotter wrote:To be completely honest, unless bg was undefeated, had a star you have to see player or ranked and playing in a huge game I am not coming up to go to the game.

It comes down to two things. It has to either be an event I don't want to miss in person or a community I feel so invested in that I want to be with those people. Some of you have those connections.

For me I would probably go to literally any other stadium in the country because it would be new. Why go to watch a boring product at a stadium I know well.

Pretty soon there will be six megaconferences who only play eachother and we will be a step up from Findlay.
Seems to me that YOU were the guy comlaining about BG athletics and football in particular, and admitted you hadn't been to a game in ...what...13 years? You've got no bitch coming IMO.
None of us were happy with the end results on Sat. but it still proved to be an entertaining and exciting game, right up to the last dropped pass and incompletion. And NO, I'm not "content" with mediocrity...just wonder how many of you guys ever actually played any sport, especially at the college leverl, much less D-1 level.
(That was my son's take on the game after listening to some nearby folks complaining about EVERY missed tackle, dropped pass, refs call etc....of course, he only played 4 yrs. of lacrosse at OSU , two as a team capt., so what would he know?) ](*,)
Cool about your son. But that has nothing to do with anything. Me not going to a game in nine years is consistent with my take here. It's not compelling for me to come back. I wish it were. I went to BG v Buffalo at Cbus and it was cold and boring. Your post is disjointed and rambles about a bunch of different things that don't really have anything to do with my response. I have not complained about losing. I complained about being boring and buried in mediocrity because of the national football landscape and the failure to spend money on the sport.
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You also have NO credibility to critique personnel, players and facilities, if that is the case.
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I didn't know they sold Pollyeyes & Myles at the game last year...that's nuts. I've always figured you may not be able to get either of those to sell in the stadium because its real hard to reproduce good pizza at a football stadium. It's gotta be either reheated or held in a warmer for a long while because they're not going to take the pizza ovens out there.
They did and they messed it up. You could only get in with a 100 membership to the Falcon club so people were paying falcon club members to go in for them. It backfired and made them look cheap.

Have Myles and Polleyes available for everyone and make it in a walled off area where staff can come chat you up about joining the falcon club. Easy fix.

I don't think that I have been to something at BG where I though...Man that was run really well. Maybe the Gameday game.
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factman wrote:You also have NO credibility to critique personnel, players and facilities, if that is the case.
First, I am not sure I did. Second, why not? Has anything changed since 2003?
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ZoombaFalcon wrote:Concession prices are high at almost any collegiate or professional sporting event. You expect a Division I athletics program to be different? You're all delusional. Keep in mind though that the facilities in the Doyt they have to work with are extremely outdated, which doesn't help.

If the food is bad, eat elsewhere before coming to the game or bring it to your tailgate instead of complaining about it every freaking time. No one is forcing you to stand in the concession line.
Ah, but here is the catch. I attend many MLB games a year. I don't eat at the stadium. Why, you may ask? Because I don't get shaken down when entering the stadium. I can bring my own peanuts and Gatorade. Hell, I can buy water for a buck ten yards from the stadium. So, in essence, I am not delusional. When I compare my experience in going to MLB to BG, BG loses, hands down. If BG wants to get me back, let me bring in my own bottle of pop instead of paying $4.50 for a flat cup of Sprite. Who knows, if I'm allowed to do that, I probably will buy a freaking bag of kettle corn or cookies.
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I wanted to follow up and say that I received a personal email back from Chris Kingston. He assured me that there is no rule prohibiting chairbacks. He also asked for Joe's address so he can reach out to him.

I have to say, I am impressed. I can't imagine the previous administration giving a falcon flock what the fans thought. It is a breath of fresh air!
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Class of 61 wrote:
Globetrotter wrote:To be completely honest, unless bg was undefeated, had a star you have to see player or ranked and playing in a huge game I am not coming up to go to the game.

It comes down to two things. It has to either be an event I don't want to miss in person or a community I feel so invested in that I want to be with those people. Some of you have those connections.

For me I would probably go to literally any other stadium in the country because it would be new. Why go to watch a boring product at a stadium I know well.

Pretty soon there will be six megaconferences who only play eachother and we will be a step up from Findlay.
Seems to me that YOU were the guy comlaining about BG athletics and football in particular, and admitted you hadn't been to a game in ...what...13 years? You've got no bitch coming IMO.
None of us were happy with the end results on Sat. but it still proved to be an entertaining and exciting game, right up to the last dropped pass and incompletion. And NO, I'm not "content" with mediocrity...just wonder how many of you guys ever actually played any sport, especially at the college leverl, much less D-1 level.
(That was my son's take on the game after listening to some nearby folks complaining about EVERY missed tackle, dropped pass, refs call etc....of course, he only played 4 yrs. of lacrosse at OSU , two as a team capt., so what would he know?) ](*,)
How ridiculous to criticize fans who haven't played D1 sports for their comments by basically saying that, since they didn't play the sport, they can't possibly have a valid point. At least that's what you seem to be insinuating. If it is: it's total hogwash. I could easily say what does playing lacrosse have to do with playing football? Perhaps your son should keep his yap shut, too.

See how that could work? :evil:

But I won't do that because I believe people who are fans have a right to express themselves and their disappointments -- especially when, as many on here have done, they back it up with facts and statistics that clearly show the program has failed to progress during Clawson's tenure. Things like: a very poor winning percentage against teams with winning records; a very poor record in close games; no wins in big games; no wins against his rival.

All of that isn't just people spouting off emotionally, it's them presenting facts that are fairly damning in how this program has not progressed under Clawson. I didn't even bring up the continual slow starts that put the team in a hole they keep having to climb out of -- and eventually came back to bite them on Saturday.

My health prevents me from traveling to games, so I haven't been able to attend one in person in a long time -- but I'd wager I keep up with what's happening to BG's sports programs better than a lot of people who do attend games regularly.

You going to say I have no credibility, either?
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bgsufn wrote:I wanted to follow up and say that I received a personal email back from Chris Kingston. He assured me that there is no rule prohibiting chairbacks. He also asked for Joe's address so he can reach out to him.

I have to say, I am impressed. I can't imagine the previous administration giving a falcon flock what the fans thought. It is a breath of fresh air!
I am excited to hear that! Kingston is a man of action. I like the way he does things.
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The fact that he responded so promptly and directly is a positive sign....we'll see if it translates into anything tangible. The prevailing attitude in the past has been more blasé towards fans and alumni. Perhaps if they put as much effort into getting people into and out of the lots as they do keeping food that aren't selling out, I'd be inclined to believe the change is real. Don't know what the situation is this year, but in the past if there were more than 5,000 people in the seats you had to leave early or be prepared to wait an hour or so to leave
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Flipper wrote:The fact that he responded so promptly and directly is a positive sign....we'll see if it translates into anything tangible. The prevailing attitude in the past has been more blasé towards fans and alumni. Perhaps if they put as much effort into getting people into and out of the lots as they do keeping food that aren't selling out, I'd be inclined to believe the change is real. Don't know what the situation is this year, but in the past if there were more than 5,000 people in the seats you had to leave early or be prepared to wait an hour or so to leave
At the Mississippi game we stayed to the end and were on our way out of town in ten minutes. There was 50,000 people at that game so it's insane to me they can't figure something better out. And that included our walk.
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The biggest problem is where the stadium is located at. Its landlocked and there's only two ways to get to it, either from 75 or taking 25 to Poe to Mercer. Perhaps putting in another road or two would help this issue, but I really don't see much they can do without either 1) Giving more direct roads to Wooster/Poe or 2) Putting a new stadium closer to major roads, and we know #2 isn't an option.
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hammb wrote:We are NOT big time. We are never going to have 25k-30k people in the stands on a weekly basis.
I hope you are wrong about that.

And, holy moly Fort Wayne, that is one disgusting-looking piece of tube-shaped protein!
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Schadenfreude wrote:
hammb wrote:We are NOT big time. We are never going to have 25k-30k people in the stands on a weekly basis.
I hope you are wrong about that.
I hope I am too.

I'd love to be wrong about that.

But given the evidence thus far I think we'd be best served by doing everything in our power to make a great experience for the 15-20K we have now than by hiring outsourced services that may be better able to handle the crowds of 25k-30k that we just don't see right now.

I was mainly saying that in the context of the concessions though. I don't think we need some fancy concession service to run our concessions, and given that the end workers still seem to be charity orgs I think local food services would fare far better both in quality of service AND quality of food offered.
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Why doesn't Dining Services handle concessions?
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