Exhibition against Malone

[Globetrotter]

Gomez had five fouls in six minutes...those of you who were declaring that he was awful before he even played a game....feel free to call him awful.

You could tell in just the highlights of other guys he was slow and unathletic. Not a good combination.

Like I said. Gomez & Mayleben are the new Erger, Kraus, Larson, etc. They shouldn't have received a D1 scholarship offer, but I really don't feel the point in continuing to harp on it all year. The more they play the more obvious it will become, and if they play any meaningful minutes there will be ample opportunity to pile on them, but I just don't think it's fair to them.

We piled on the other guys, but in the end, the real issue is a clueless head coach that recruits HS kids that cannot even produce at that level. Dunno...maybe I'm softening in my old age or something. I just know that from what I saw of those 2 on Saturday neither should own a uniform, let alone get off the bench, and I'm hoping that there will be other things to talk about as this season wears on than these 2.

100% agree. At some point I got a reputation for doing that and I think it's inaccurate, I hate to say that a guy shouldn't have a scholarship. I can't imagine someone reading that who has one and how horrible it would feel. With that said I agree that if a big man doesn't put up big numbers in HS, where he is bigger than everybody, it would be tough to predict him to be successful when he is playing against guys his size. During Orr's tenure we have recruited atleast three guys who fit this bill, they don't even list their hs stats on their recruiting charts because they didn't average double figures. I was a very very average HS basketball player adn my numbers were better then those three guys. I would much rather miss on an Anthony Henderson who filled up the stat sheet in HS then project a guy who hasn't scored at the HS level to be able to do so at the college level.

The thing is with these two atleast. Mayleben reportedly had offers from Akron and Wright State. Gomez had offers from Binghamton and transferred from Iona. So somebody liked them.

http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/ ... ID=1170707
http://nypost.com/2011/05/18/rices-gomez-chooses-iona/

With 11 scholarship players on the roster I don't see anyone being redshirted. But Mayleben might make sense if they can swing it. With Big men you can always use another body in the post.

[hammb]

Gomez had five fouls in six minutes...those of you who were declaring that he was awful before he even played a game....feel free to call him awful.

You could tell in just the highlights of other guys he was slow and unathletic. Not a good combination.

Like I said. Gomez & Mayleben are the new Erger, Kraus, Larson, etc. They shouldn't have received a D1 scholarship offer, but I really don't feel the point in continuing to harp on it all year. The more they play the more obvious it will become, and if they play any meaningful minutes there will be ample opportunity to pile on them, but I just don't think it's fair to them.

We piled on the other guys, but in the end, the real issue is a clueless head coach that recruits HS kids that cannot even produce at that level. Dunno...maybe I'm softening in my old age or something. I just know that from what I saw of those 2 on Saturday neither should own a uniform, let alone get off the bench, and I'm hoping that there will be other things to talk about as this season wears on than these 2.

100% agree. At some point I got a reputation for doing that and I think it's inaccurate, I hate to say that a guy shouldn't have a scholarship. I can't imagine someone reading that who has one and how horrible it would feel. With that said I agree that if a big man doesn't put up big numbers in HS, where he is bigger than everybody, it would be tough to predict him to be successful when he is playing against guys his size. During Orr's tenure we have recruited atleast three guys who fit this bill, they don't even list their hs stats on their recruiting charts because they didn't average double figures. I was a very very average HS basketball player adn my numbers were better then those three guys. I would much rather miss on an Anthony Henderson who filled up the stat sheet in HS then project a guy who hasn't scored at the HS level to be able to do so at the college level.

Kraus had pretty damned good HS numbers as well. I was stunned to see his shooting form when he got to BG, because he had pretty awesome HS shooting numbers, as I recall. I know the level of competition has a lot to do with it sometimes, but a jump shot is a jump shot. I never figured out how he made so many of them in HS, then came here and looked like he couldn't shoot 40% behind the arc in drills. Crazy...

I don't know what the shooting numbers will end up being, probably not real good, but I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Henderson average 15 ppg this year. He can score. He scored in HS, and he can score here as well if given an actual opportunity. Unfortunately it may be the typical case of a guy that can only score by shooting a ton. I don't know, I like his athleticism and talent level, I just wish our coaching staff could take those tools and actually mold it into a basketball player.

[Globetrotter]

I thought it was great wht you wrote about just going down and alley ooping it to eachother. If you are going to try to perfect an offense it would seem that an exhibition game is the perfect chance to do that. Pull A necessary Roughness and tell them "run it again" until they get it.

[Falcon137]

To those that went: What was the officiating like?

I ask because I went to the Findlay @ Dayton game, the teams combined for 70 fouls and almost 100 free throws. It was insane. Easily, the worst basketball game I have been to. Took nearly 2 and a half hours, had no flow, and neither team went on a run of more than 5 points.

Findlay (who is very good, again) had 3 guys foul out and 3 more with 4 fouls.

[hammb]

To those that went: What was the officiating like?

I ask because I went to the Findlay @ Dayton game, the teams combined for 70 fouls and almost 100 free throws. It was insane. Easily, the worst basketball game I have been to. Took nearly 2 and a half hours, had no flow, and neither team went on a run of more than 5 points.

Findlay (who is very good, again) had 3 guys foul out and 3 more with 4 fouls.

I didn't have an issue with the officiating at all. Seemed fair and there weren't so many fouls called that it made the game drag. I think it clocked in right around the 2 hour mark.

[guest44]

Gomez didn't look good? Shocker. This is year 5 of wasted scholarships on Rorie and Gomez at the deepest position on the roster. Lou loves length that can't do anything with the ball clearly.

[Falcon137]

To those that went: What was the officiating like?

I ask because I went to the Findlay @ Dayton game, the teams combined for 70 fouls and almost 100 free throws. It was insane. Easily, the worst basketball game I have been to. Took nearly 2 and a half hours, had no flow, and neither team went on a run of more than 5 points.

Findlay (who is very good, again) had 3 guys foul out and 3 more with 4 fouls.

I didn't have an issue with the officiating at all. Seemed fair and there weren't so many fouls called that it made the game drag. I think it clocked in right around the 2 hour mark.

That's good to hear. I'm nervous that league to league and even official to official is going to call the new handchecking rules differently. Hopefully, the crew I saw is an outlier.

[hammb]

To those that went: What was the officiating like?

I ask because I went to the Findlay @ Dayton game, the teams combined for 70 fouls and almost 100 free throws. It was insane. Easily, the worst basketball game I have been to. Took nearly 2 and a half hours, had no flow, and neither team went on a run of more than 5 points.

Findlay (who is very good, again) had 3 guys foul out and 3 more with 4 fouls.

I didn't have an issue with the officiating at all. Seemed fair and there weren't so many fouls called that it made the game drag. I think it clocked in right around the 2 hour mark.

That's good to hear. I'm nervous that league to league and even official to official is going to call the new handchecking rules differently. Hopefully, the crew I saw is an outlier.

There were a few handchecks called, against both sides, and I thought fair across the board. All the instances seemed to be fairly obvious, the defender had lost a step and was clearly putting his hand on the ballhandler's waist trying to slow them up.

Can't say I saw anything out of line. I think the only comment I had about the officials all game long was them calling a carry on somebody (Tisdale?) while he was just dribbling outside the 3 point line (not even making any sort of move). At the time I believe I said, "may have been the right call but you don't see that too often in a 28 point game".

Overall though, nothing of note.

[guest44]

If Jay Larranaga was an adequate player, then what would you categorize the slop on the court in the last 10 seasons? Just curious.

[Flipper]

Inadequate.....

[factman]

[BleedOrange]

Hammbone, thanks the the information. Excellent, as usual.

Concerning redshirts: I don't see Orr redshirting anybody who can help us this year. Whatever Sealey injured, he'll be lucky if he injures it again - maybe he'll get a medical redshirt and play one year for the next coach.

Concerning Gomez and Maybelen: Orr never learned that he isn't Jesus working miracles on lepers. I'd expect that the new coaching staff will run these guys out of the program before the before the 2014 spring signing period. Gomez will have had 3 years of a free education. Maybelen will have had one and will end up in DII. No injustice here.