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They're justverbals....you can alays pull them and the kids can always sgn somewhere else. I think it's a positive that we had some quality kids who were anxious to get here
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factman wrote:Actually, all of us that were at the "show" saw quite a bit of film on all of the recruits, and I came away quite impressed. I really like this class as it covered some needs, like OL, bigger LB's and DL. The size overall is excellent, as you have to remember they are almost all, still in HS, and they are almost as big as many of our starters now.
Coach Brandon also mentioned that we also will be using tight ends more in the coming year, so it makes alot of sense, plus the "convert" factor as they are the "big" guys that can also run. Makes for some outstanding prospects at many other positions. :D :D
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I hope everybody is right about these recruits. Your reports are glowing! The media, conversily, doesn't agree with your analysis (they've been wrong before), so I'm sitting here trying to separate fact from fiction. Looking over all the MAC recruits, it looks like NI and Akron are on top right now.
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Flipper wrote:They're justverbals....you can alays pull them and the kids can always sgn somewhere else. I think it's a positive that we had some quality kids who were anxious to get here
But doesn't it look bad if we have to pull offers? Unless of course it is for acedemics, which I totally agree with. Like I said, I too am glad that these kids wanted to come here. Just seems like you can paint yourself into a corner if you get so many so early. :?
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After seeing the videos, many of my questions were answered. These guys are players who have wheels, like to play hard and are from winning programs. Many will help sooner than later. Those who appeared small in their stats hit like trucks in the videos. One of the LB's looked like he was quick enough to play safety, at least he sure came off the edge and made a sack like a blitzing safety.

The early verbals were stated to be from those who had attended our camps last year, so the coaches had a good look at them and made the offers then. If they want an athelete why wouldn't they sit down with them right then? Part of this is a sales proposition. You make the deal when the time is right. If your quota is 25, then getting 15 sold early is not a bad plan.

2 are National Honors Society and one already has so many college credits that he may start as a Sophmore academically.

This in my opinion will be an outstanding class.
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Geez, there is sooooo much optimism out there that's it's catching. I wasn't around to review the videos, but I am catching up on some of the rankings, and on a statistical basis (and relatively speaking), this class doesn't look good at all. Rivals ranks them near the bottom in Div I. I'm going to have to assume that Brandon knows what he's doing, and I also believe that it's what they do on the field that counts, but that's a wait and see situation. Right now, I'm trying to separate fact from fiction, and I'm not very comfortable with what I'm c oming up with. Todate, I've reviewed three web-sights with rank recruits and recruiting classes, and BG doesn't fare well in any of them. What don't I understand? What am I missing!
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Dr. Bucko wrote:What don't I understand? What am I missing!
How many years have you coached in Divison I-A? I can't help you with your questions until I know a little more about you.
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Dr. Bucko:

Schadenfreude wrote an eloquent post (Cream of our crop, I believe), that addresses some of what you're seeing. We didn't get a lot of "WOW" players, because we have so many linemen, LBs, etc. That just doesn't seem to excite people who make up these lists. Face it, even if we got the top offensive linemen in the nation, it's not going to get too many folks geeked up.

That being said, it looks like we got some very good players, who are going to get a year of conditioning and coaching in before we need them on the field.

I've said it before. In the end, this will be the class that helps Brandon shape his legacy.
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Just because it is my role to be the pessimist, I would like to remind everyone that the film you watched was there solely to make that recruit look good. I would hope that you could put together 5 mins of film on every player that has a D1 offer and make them look like the next heisman candidate. The films were highlights against HS competition. I didn't go, so I really don't have an opinion, but just reminding everyone that seeing some great film doesn't mean that they're all great players :)

My biggest thing when looking at recruits is what other schools offered them. In this regard this is not our greatest class. Very few of these guys had offers from BCS schools. That doesn't mean they're bad players, just means they weren't very highly thought of by other, bigger schools. There is certainly something to be read into that.

I do like the focus on DL & DB. And you can never have too many OL.
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Urban once told me that he wanted to have 16 O linemen in the system that either play now or in the future (not just on the team). It seems that we are working hard to fill this quota.
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I think I'll just let the Coaches coach, the players play and I'll be the best fan I can be . . . and bring on some new fans.

I heard a sport talk show host say New England is good because; all, of the players - just want to play and win, they are not out for $$$, they are not out to be in the spotlight, they are a fairly equal in ability and they work together as a team. The owner told the coach - just don't bring in any thugs. I think they've got a winning concept there.

I have no idea what the coaching staffs philosphy is on recruiting but, I am putting my faith and support behind them in whatever they deem the best for BG. I think they know what they want to do and will do it.

If they develop some new style (like the current popular "West Coast Offense"), I say . . . go for it. (converting fast TE's for line play) Let's see what they come up with.

I'll be happy with a 'no name' winning program that keeps BG at the top of the MAC and well know in the country.

I don't much care what the media thinks and I doubt most coaching staffs do, either. :roll:
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Hammb is right. That exact press conference and film session was held at every school in the country yesterday. They can't all be great classes.

Time will tell. It doesn't look like as good a class to me as we have had the past few years, and as good as we need to stay where we are.
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I'm getting a large charge out of some of these listed 40 yd times. I guess there is soooooo much pressure to get these scholarships that padding that infamous, tell-it-all 40 yrd time has become the accepted norm. There ain't no BG athlete, or UT athlete, or etc. that's gonna produce a 4.4 romp in the 40. I got suspicious many years ago when a local coach credited his top lineman (who was 6'5" and 290 lbs) on his stats sheet as having done a 5.0 second 40. Following a complicated math formula (you can't do it by proportions because of accelerations changes) that 4.4 second 40 translates into an 11.3 100 meters (which could be a state qualifying time in some years). Sorry, but no overweight high-school boy with those dimensions is gonna run that fast. Maybe, but look for three-wise men to come from the East if it ever happens. What makes all of this even more fairy-land exciting is that these fictitious times are done with a stand-up start. Oh My! ----- Now I've done my research on this topic, so believe what you've read.
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Corrrection to my last note ---- that 5.0 second forty translates into an 11.3 second 100 meters.
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Dr. Bucko, As a biologist you should know that extrapolations are very dangerous things. Your math formulas may be very nice but don't take into consideration the physiology of human muscle.
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