Dear New Coach...here is what you should have to work with.

[Falcon Fanatic]

Kumbayah my Lord Kumbayah...

EVERYBODY NOW...."KUMBAYAH, MY LORD, KUMBAYAH!!"

[Globetrotter]

He will have plenty of suitors

That would all be committing major NCAA violations if they say boo to him.

I think there is a vast difference in how things actually work and how the rules say they are supposed to work and how many people here seem to think college football works.

[Flipper]

"Everybody cheats..at least I think they do..so f**k the rules"....that seems to be your prevailing philosphy

[Globetrotter]

"Everybody cheats..at least I think they do..so f**k the rules"....that seems to be your prevailing philosphy

It's closer to this.

Everyone has to cheat to compete because everyone else is cheating and if they didn't they couldn't compete. Some rules are just suggestions.

[Flipper]

I don't think we cheat...we've never had a major violation here. Hell, the program self reported to the NCAA when a football verbal had a hotdog at a tailgate with people from the board. Hence the sticky on NCAA rules from Grant...I asked Brandon what became of that at a recruiting reception and he said the kid had to pay BG $10 to square things. Compare and contrast that to the history of Jim Tressel or whomever....

I don't think all major programs cheat...I think the cheaters are the exception rather than the rule.

[Globetrotter]

I don't think we cheat...we've never had a major violation here. Hell, the program self reported to the NCAA when a football verbal had a hotdog at a tailgate with people from the board. Hence the sticky on NCAA rules from Grant...I asked Brandon what became of that at a recruiting reception and he said the kid had to pay BG $10 to square things. Compare and contrast that to the history of Jim Tressel or whomever....

I don't think all major programs cheat...I think the cheaters are the exception rather than the rule.

Agree to disagree. Think about how Osu and Miami and I think even USC got caught. FBI or law enforcement investigations that happened to turn up these other things. I would assume this happens everywhere and most places are either smarter about it, luckier or don't have as many people willing to give handouts.

[Globetrotter]

New and improved with recruits.

QB Matt Johnson 6-0 215 So® James Knapke 6-2 216 Fr® Nolan Dieter 6-2 187 So® Austin Valdez 6-0 214 Fr Cody Callaway 6-3 192
RB Travis Greene 5-10 181 So® Fred Coppet 5-10 175 Fr Marcus Levy 5-10 191 Fr BRANDON ENGLISH 5-8 180 R
RB Andre Givens 5-9 200 So® William Houston 6-0 262 Fr Jamel Martin 5-10 195 Jr® Eric Harrell 5-9 189 Fr
FB Chris Pohlman 6-1 257 Jr
WR Gehrig Dieter 6-3 209 Fr® Ronnie Moore 5-9 164 Fr Herve Coby 5-11 177 So® Teo Redding 6-1 159 Fr
WR Chris Gallon 6-4 223 So® Heath Jackson 5-11 187 Jr® Kevin Collins 6-2 198 Fr® Trevor Roop 5-8 205 Fr
WR Ryan Burbrink 5-8 188 So® Jared Cohen 6-1 189 Jr® Jermal Hosley 5-8 185 So John Klingerman 5-9 168 Fr MIKE RODGERS 6-2 190 R
TE Scott Davis 6-4 245 Fr® Logan Larson 6-3 250 Fr Hunter Folekertsma 6-5 236 Fr Andrew Posbielski 6-5 227
LT Jacob Bennet 6-4 316 Fr® Clay Rolf 6-6 285 Jr® Darion Delaney 6-3 277 Jr® Austin Labus 6-6 270
LG Spencer Cairo 6-2 302 So® Nick Hager 6-2 307 Jr® Jared Coker 6-3 285
C JJ Beggan 6-2 285 Fr® Geno Zappa 6-4 285 Fr Isiah Moore 6-3 280
RG Alex Heuttel 6-3 292 So® Ben Steward 6-5 289 Fr® Ryan Hunter 6-4 338 Fr Tim McCaullife 6-0 264 Fr
RT Logan Dietz 6-5 292 Fr® Christian Piazza 6-7 296 So® Clark Clancy 6-3 277 Fr Jared Weyler 6-3 266

K Tyler Tate 5-11 173 So® Anthony Farinella 6-3 195 So Nick Fields 5-9 211 Fr
P Joe Davidson 6-7 206 Fr
LS Greg Hohenstein 6-3 211 Fr®

LE Bryan Thomas 6-2 257 Jr® Kendall Montgomery 6-5 262 Jr® Terrance Bush 6-2 229 Fr® Jason Shepherd 5-9 245 Fr Solomon Carnes 6-2 238 Fr
LT Zach Colvin 6-2 286 Jr Taylor Royster 5-9 257 So® Izaah Lunsford 6-3 268 Fr® Darius Holiday 6-3 252 Fr Chance Weitz 6-3 250
NT Mike Minns 5-10 293 So Bryan Baird 6-3 235 So® Terrell Jackson 6-3 275 Fr® Jake Nachtrab 6-2 223 Fr Tyler King 6-3 250
RE Charlie Walker 6-2 245 Jr® Jhalil-Nashid Croley 6-2 253 Fr® Johnathan Fry 6-3 266 Jr® Gus Schwietermen 6-1 245 Fr Brian Sanders 6-4 230
Buck DJ Lynch 5-11 244 Jr® Zac Bartman 5-11 208 Fr® Nate Locke 6-0 225 Fr Aaron Banks 6-1 234 Fr Jalen Dingle 6-2 218
MLB Paul Senn 6-1 217 Jr Coy Brown 5-11 211 So Evan Karchner 5-9 228 Fr® Patric Hannon 5-11 226 Fr Griff Sauders 6-3 215
R Gabe Martin 6-1 229 Jr® Justin Ford 6-1 204 Jr® Victor Osborne 5-10 182 Jr® Tim Love 6-0 205 Jr® Monti Phillips 5-10 184 Fr Thomas Jones 6-1 230
SS Ryland Ward 5-10 206 Jr® Darrell Hunter 5-8 174 Jr Isaiah Gourdine 6-2 190 Fr Trevahn Beery 6-0 155 Jack Walz 5-11 185
FS Jude Adjei-Barimah 5-10 204 Jr® James Sanford 6-1 186 Fr® Matt Robinson 5-7 175 Fr Ben Hale 6-2 187
CB Will Watson 5-11 175 So Alphonso Mack 6-0 170 Fr ® Ryan Pitts 5-5 155 Fr Nick Johnson 6-0 187
CB Brian Sutton 6-0 190 Jr Omar Pierre-Louis 6-1 188 Fr Diontre Delk 5-9 179 So® Marlon Tyree 6-2 185

[Redwingtom]

1. You will return a stud QB
2. You will return a fleet of RBs
3. Your WR group should be great to amazing depending on Moore's status
4. You are losing your top TE's
5. Your losing the interior strength of your OL

1. The defense loses alot but returns Lynch and Martin Both Studs.
2. Three other starters will be back

Is there anything on Moore leaving, if so where?

Just speculation. He is a true Freshman so it wouldn't cost him much.

From today...

“It's better for me, if we're going to spread the ball around,” said BG freshman wide receiver Ronnie Moore. Moore said he thinks he can pick up Babers' offensive plan very fast, and that it's going to be fun.

“I had one question for him. I asked him: What offense do you run? He said 'have you seen the Baylor offense?' And I said, 'Yes.' He said, 'That's your offense right there.' I said, 'That's fine with me.”

[Globetrotter]

1. You will return a stud QB
2. You will return a fleet of RBs
3. Your WR group should be great to amazing depending on Moore's status
4. You are losing your top TE's
5. Your losing the interior strength of your OL

1. The defense loses alot but returns Lynch and Martin Both Studs.
2. Three other starters will be back

Is there anything on Moore leaving, if so where?

Just speculation. He is a true Freshman so it wouldn't cost him much.

From today...

“It's better for me, if we're going to spread the ball around,” said BG freshman wide receiver Ronnie Moore. Moore said he thinks he can pick up Babers' offensive plan very fast, and that it's going to be fun.

“I had one question for him. I asked him: What offense do you run? He said 'have you seen the Baylor offense?' And I said, 'Yes.' He said, 'That's your offense right there.' I said, 'That's fine with me.”

Awesome. To be honest when I found out about his offense and where he was coming from my first thought was Ronnie Moore isn't going anywhere...... but probably the NFL in a few years. The WRs must be elated.

[hammb]

Awesome. To be honest when I found out about his offense and where he was coming from my first thought was Ronnie Moore isn't going anywhere...... but probably the NFL in a few years. The WRs must be elated.

No doubt the WRs must be elated. His WR corps that he coached in Baylor are all playing, and playing WELL on Sundays.

[Globetrotter]

This line should be the one to watch.

TE Scott Davis 6-4 245 Fr® Logan Larson 6-3 250 Fr Hunter Folekertsma 6-5 236 Fr Andrew Posbielski 6-5 227

The Recruit can play DE. Not sure about the other 3 and where they might end up. We also just added a Juco TE recruit.

[gspointer]

QB Matt Johnson 6-0 215 So® James Knapke 6-2 216 Fr® Nolan Dieter 6-2 187 So® Austin Valdez 6-0 214 Fr
RB Travis Greene 5-10 181 So® Fred Coppet 5-10 175 Fr Marcus Levy 5-10 191 Fr BRANDON ENGLISH 5-8 180 R
RB Andre Givens 5-9 200 So® William Houston 6-0 262 Fr Jamel Martin 5-10 195 Jr® Eric Harrell 5-9 189 Fr
FB Chris Pohlman 6-1 257 Jr
WR Ronnie Moore 5-9 164 Fr Gehrig Dieter 6-3 209 Fr® Herve Coby 5-11 177 So® Teo Redding 6-1 159 Fr
WR Chris Gallon 6-4 223 So® Heath Jackson 5-11 187 Jr® Kevin Collins 6-2 198 Fr® Trevor Roop 5-8 205 Fr
WR Ryan Burbrink 5-8 188 So® Jared Cohen 6-1 189 Jr® Jermal Hosley 5-8 185 So John Klingerman 5-9 168 Fr MIKE RODGERS 6-2 190 R
TE Scott Davis 6-4 245 Fr® Logan Larson 6-3 250 Fr Hunter Folekertsma 6-5 236 Fr
LT Jacob Bennet 6-4 316 Fr® Clay Rolf 6-6 285 Jr®
LG Spencer Cairo 6-2 302 So® Darion Delaney 6-3 277 Jr®
C JJ Beggan 6-2 285 Fr® Nick Hager 6-2 307 Jr® Geno Zappa 6-4 285 Fr
RG Alex Heuttel 6-3 292 So® Ben Steward 6-5 289 Fr® Ryan Hunter 6-4 338 Fr Tim McCaullife 6-0 264 Fr
RT Logan Dietz 6-5 292 Fr® Christian Piazza 6-7 296 So® Clark Clancy 6-3 277 Fr

K Tyler Tate 5-11 173 So® Anthony Farinella 6-3 195 So Nick Fields 5-9 211 Fr
P Joe Davidson 6-7 206 Fr
LS Greg Hohenstein 6-3 211 Fr®

LE Bryan Thomas 6-2 257 Jr® Kendall Montgomery 6-5 262 Jr® Terrance Bush 6-2 229 Fr® Jason Shepherd 5-9 245 Fr Solomon Carnes 6-2 238 Fr
LT Zach Colvin 6-2 286 Jr Taylor Royster 5-9 257 So® Izaah Lunsford 6-3 268 Fr® Darius Holiday 6-3 252 Fr
NT Mike Minns 5-10 293 So Bryan Baird 6-3 235 So® Terrell Jackson 6-3 275 Fr® Jake Nachtrab 6-2 223 Fr
RE Charlie Walker 6-2 245 Jr® Jhalil-Nashid Croley 6-2 253 Fr® Johnathan Fry 6-3 266 Jr® Gus Schwietermen 6-1 245 Fr
Buck DJ Lynch 5-11 244 Jr® Paul Senn 6-1 217 Jr Zac Bartman 5-11 208 Fr® Nate Locke 6-0 225 Fr Aaron Banks 6-1 234 Fr
MLB Coy Brown 5-11 211 So Evan Karchner 5-9 228 Fr® Patric Hannon 5-11 226 Fr
R Gabe Martin 6-1 229 Jr® Victor Osborne 5-10 182 Jr® Tim Love 6-0 205 Jr® Monti Phillips 5-10 184 Fr
SS Ryland Ward 5-10 206 Jr® Jude Adjei-Barimah 5-10 204 Jr® Darrell Hunter 5-8 174 Jr
FS Justin Ford 6-1 204 Jr® James Sanford 6-1 186 Fr® Isaiah Gourdine 6-2 190 Fr Matt Robinson 5-7 175 Fr
CB Will Watson 5-11 175 So Alphonso Mack 6-0 170 Fr ® Ryan Pitts 5-5 155 Fr
CB Brian Sutton 6-0 190 Jr Omar Pierre-Louis 6-1 188 Fr Diontre Delk 5-9 179 So®

Wow, we are in trouble on the D line. With Maynards leaving and the seniors gone we are thin. Very smallish. I hope that is an emphasis of recruiting. Dont want us to go backwards there.... The loss of the tackles is going to hurt...

[Globetrotter]

He also had a RB with 1500 yards rushing and another with 988.

[hammb]

He also had a RB with 1500 yards rushing and another with 988.

Yep.

They Baylor offense is nearly unstoppable. They spread defenses every direction and aren't afraid to gash them with running plays either.

[Flipper]

We're fine so far as the Dline goes. At DT...the rotation should include Colvin, Minns, Jackson (*** transfer from Pitt) and Lunsford, who really showed a lot in mop up duty at the end. Beyond that we have a vet back up in Royster and guys like Holiday (very impressive in HS) and hopefully Shannon SMith who looked like a Chris Jones clone coming out of Marist. At DE we have Montgomery, Walker, Baird, Croley and Fry.

I hated to see Maynard go and wish he was still here...but thankfully we have the depth to take the hit.